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On 2017-05-10 06:39:07Show All PostsDescending Order
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As the title states space time AI is totally useless I put full initiative gear on first ninja and yet every single time it decides to use my 4th position. How is this even a thing, why cant my AI be as intelligent as the opponents and not use the worst possible mystery available?

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On 2017-05-10 08:09:35Show All Posts
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well considering I always place my first position first you sir are totally incorrect
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On 2017-05-10 09:24:24Show All Posts
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  • PraiseLuka On 2017-05-10 08:41:30
  • According to this:
    http://forum.naruto.oasgames.com ... 039&highlight=space
    You are the cause of your own problem--the one you place LAST cast first.
    Of course, the OP there says it's not working for him, but the others insist that's how it works.

    I said, and I quote, "depend on order that you placed the ninja on the field", I never said it is in that order. According the thread I linked, people seems to think it goes by the reverse order.
    Edit 2: I also said, and I quote "in case of ties", it is not even established that your 4th position mystery is in a tie with your first (and no, cost is not the only thing, some mystery just have precendence over their peers).

    In any case, it most certainly is deterministic, as that's the easiest way to make it. How it works exactly, I'm not 100% sure. The very fact that it uses your 4th position every single time proves that it's deterministic.

    Edit: from personal experience of using 2 40 costers on auto in survival, it seems that it depends on the enemy as well. My sage naruto is always prioritzied over my GNW Kankuro at the start of turn 2 regardless of placement order. However after dancing, if my opponent loses 2 or more ninja, then GNW kankuro will be the one to Q his ability over the sage naruto. I have observed this pretty much every single time, so it does seem deterministic and favor certain abilities over others. So there is certainly someways in which you can influence the behavior of the casting with team placement. Thou I honestly can't tell you what the exact rules are, I'd need to see the code to do that.

    This post was last edited by PraiseLuka at 2017-5-9 16:53
well I have used 5 different teams and its only the current one that always is incorrect in mystery usage, and since it also goes from you normal ninja placement I fail to see how that is even possible. Is kinda moronic to place your first ninja last especially since each time I have made a team which is also usually my main team I set it exactly the same and it always casts mystery in correct order from first placed to last. Whilst I c*e a cursed hidan, bee team and it always casts yo onto hidan no matter what order they are placed. Kinda puts a wrench into your works.
You also realise that the mod says what I have done and to place the ninja you want to go first, first.

This post was last edited by WhoWhat at 2017-5-10 09:31
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On 2017-05-10 19:27:51Show All Posts
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and yet when I place my Mifune first he never uses his mystery first, is always the last position that goes first which is darui, same amount of chakra for mystery.
And being in top 15 of my bracket in space time I cant afford that
1 bad move means a loss and you all know that.
I do have a very non meta team though but still it shouldnt mean that my mystery casts all weird.
Fiirst team works perfect every time yet second team wants to use Darui first.
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On 2017-05-12 00:49:35Show All Posts
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It at least for me goes against all logic but placing the ninja you want to go first last on the field actually does work at least it has for me. Doesn't seem to make sense but it does work.
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