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On 2017-05-17 03:45:49Show All Posts
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  • On 2017-05-10 10:42:04
  • There are a bunch of consistant rules on how the autobattle AI uses skills. First of all, position/initiative doesn't seem to matter at all. What matters is the chakra cost of the mystery, the order the ninjas were placed/moved, and some special conditions like interrupt/heal skills. The order the ninjas are placed is changed whenever you add a ninja or move a ninja. Adding or moving a ninja puts them at the end of the order. So for example, if you add Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura to your team in that order, you ninja order will be Main -> Naruto -> Sasuke ->Sakura. If you then move Naruto to another spot (or move him and then move him back if you want to change your order but keep the same formation), your new order will be Main -> Sasuke ->Sakura -> Naruto. This order is also the order the ninjas will do their start of combat effects, like clones and shields/buffs, which is important if youre trying to get certain clone setups or have shields hit clones.

    Mysteries get cast by the AI using this priority:
    1. Chakra cost (high -> low)
    2. If skills with the same chakra cost can be used, they will be used in reverse ninja order

    These are the general rules for most mysteries. Interrupt mysteries behave differently. It will save chakra for them initially (didn't do enough testing to figure out exactly how long it'll wait, but it seems to usually be around when move 2 starts/ends) and use them at the highest priority if the enemy uses a skill. Otherwise they will be used at the lowest priority. So roughly:

    0. Interrupt skill (if the enemy is using a mystery)
    1. Chakra cost (high -> low)
    2. If skills with the same chakra cost can be used, they will be used in reverse ninja order
    3. Interrupt skill (if the enemy is not using a mystery)

    Support skills (heals, revives, etc.) will be cast when they will do something (not sure on priority). This is a pretty general description of how they work, but it's enough for most lineups that just want mysteries cast in a certain order.

    If you post your team and say what you're trying to accomplish mystery-wise, I can probably figure out how to make that happen. If it's just having your pos 1 cast it's mystery instead of your pos 4, just move your pos 1 to another space and move it back (to put it at the end of the ninja order).

    EDIT: Also want to echo the above comments that there are a lot of small nuances that may cause skill to go off not in this order, this was just a very general order (mostly for damage skills).

    EDIT 2: Fixed a big typo - chakra cost is high -> low, not low -> high
    This post was last edited by cra***@gmail.com at 2017-5-10 11:00
So based on this post, there is no way to get Inner Gates Lee and Crimson Fist to work together? Better yet, if your main has a mystery with the same chakra as another ninja, will the other ninja always get priority due to the 'reverse' order?

Super Lightened Boulder Justsu for double standards is 40 chakra as is Inner Gates Lee's Leaf Hurricane is also 40 chakra. Since you cannot replace your main, it will always go in reverse order due to them both being 40 chakra and cast Lee round 1, correct?

For the poster above me, I believe whenever Auto is used, they tend to go for the target with the lowest amount of health. There is no perfect way to counter this unless you're able to land standards on the ninja you want to focus so they're the lowest. Using standards that deal damage to multiple ninjas can help, especially if they're using a tank.
This post was last edited by Bojangle at 2017-5-17 03:51
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On 2017-05-17 03:52:33Show All Posts
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  • PraiseLuka On 2017-05-17 03:49:20
  • No, because while you can't replace your main, you can move it. And if you move a character, it will be considered as the last to be placed.
Oh! Well let me go test that then, thank you very much! Since I can't 'remove' them, I tend to place my main first and would have never noticed this.
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