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[ Azure Fang ] Isn't water main, like, you know, too OP

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On 2017-04-22 06:59:11Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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I recently encountered a team that looks like this:


And let me tell you guys, that this team is immortal...i mean 85% heal buff, on sakura that heals herself 4% of life on every attack, added with the poision tai is just too op...i mean there really is no way to beat it, the 2.5k passive heals(not to say the active 6k heals) are too much to deal with, and no, ignite won't work, because, well because that team got a *ton of debuff clear, so even if you manage, somehow to get that sakura to 100 hp, by the end of the round she will have full hp back...Need to know your opinions
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On 2017-04-22 07:14:34Show this Author Only
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A multi healers team good at healing ?! What are the odds ?!
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On 2017-04-22 07:23:14Show this Author Only
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Since heavy ignite team *cough Tob.. cough Scar.. cough Dei.. cough mirro...* was nerfed to the ground. I doubt there is any viable way to counter this. The only possible option right now is to out dmg him with money :lol Or just wait for the nerf that is coming. Water can't use her reserve seal and poi-tai at the same time after the nerf. This post was last edited by Oshiri at 2017-4-22 07:26
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On 2017-04-22 07:23:54Show this Author Only
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I'd much rather face a team like that than S sasuke teams or 6tail nar teams... Since it's pretty easy for me to just outright kill ninjas on that team, 1 at a time; the heals really doesn't mean much. Meanwhile, it takes quite a while for that team to rack up poison damage against debuff clears.
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On 2017-04-22 07:29:46Show this Author Only
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  • Oshiri On 2017-04-22 07:23:14
  • Since heavy ignite team *cough Tob.. cough Scar.. cough Dei.. cough mirro...* was nerfed to the ground. I doubt there is any viable way to counter this. The only possible option right now is to out dmg him with money :lol Or just wait for the nerf that is coming. Water can't use her reserve seal and poi-tai at the same time after the nerf. This post was last edited by Oshiri at 2017-4-22 07:26
you dont even need to use the reserver heal with immortal team... you just use healing tips and poison tai and GG
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On 2017-04-22 07:30:58Show this Author Only
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  • Oshiri On 2017-04-22 07:23:14
  • Since heavy ignite team *cough Tob.. cough Scar.. cough Dei.. cough mirro...* was nerfed to the ground. I doubt there is any viable way to counter this. The only possible option right now is to out dmg him with money :lol Or just wait for the nerf that is coming. Water can't use her reserve seal and poi-tai at the same time after the nerf. This post was last edited by Oshiri at 2017-4-22 07:26
is not her reserve seal, is the healing tips that's op
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On 2017-04-22 07:31:31Show this Author Only
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find counters... first was scarlet blaze op then was lightning main now it is water main... what do you expect actually?? in every team there is a weakness and a counter...
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On 2017-04-22 07:34:53Show this Author Only
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Oh wait, I just encountered a *load of the same type teams in Arena.
All of them were 6 path sage.
I also encountered variations with Sailor sakura, Tsunade hokage, Water main and kimimaro or mei.
Semi-rage for beeing stuck at Kage 45 points xD
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On 2017-04-22 07:35:03Show this Author Only
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  • IamAscrub On 2017-04-22 07:23:54
  • I'd much rather face a team like that than S sasuke teams or 6tail nar teams... Since it's pretty easy for me to just outright kill ninjas on that team, 1 at a time; the heals really doesn't mean much. Meanwhile, it takes quite a while for that team to rack up poison damage against debuff clears.
well man, it means you haven't been playing against this team...take 1 at a time, what a joke...when you see that you leave any given ninja with less than 2k hp, and at the end of the turn it has 99% of his hp back, so you basically did nothing while they still got main's healing skill as a reserve
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On 2017-04-22 07:59:38Show this Author Only
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  • DrDoo On 2017-04-22 07:35:03
  • well man, it means you haven't been playing against this team...take 1 at a time, what a joke...when you see that you leave any given ninja with less than 2k hp, and at the end of the turn it has 99% of his hp back, so you basically did nothing while they still got main's healing skill as a reserve
I did face such a team in matsuri, who had 5k more pow than me. Tsunade got 1 shotted at start of round 2. She isn't very tanky, especially on a team that does not run any shields.

There are far more painful teams to worry about at the budget level of kage tsunade in single teams.
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On 2017-04-22 08:07:28Show this Author Only
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It's not as OP as you may think.
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  • IamAscrub On 2017-04-22 07:59:38
  • I did face such a team in matsuri, who had 5k more pow than me. Tsunade got 1 shotted at start of round 2. She isn't very tanky, especially on a team that does not run any shields.

    There are far more painful teams to worry about at the budget level of kage tsunade in single teams.
    This post was last edited by IamAscrub at 2017-4-22 08:01
and how did you deal with sailor sakura??Just curious, because all my hits seem to heal her
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On 2017-04-22 08:32:50Show this Author Only
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  • AkashaMoka On 2017-04-22 08:07:28
  • It's not as OP as you may think.
Then, do you have a suggestion on how to take this team in Arena?
(no ultrarares please)Edit: I don't have Danzo/Darui, so MB is kinda out of the question for me.



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On 2017-04-22 08:35:31Show this Author Only
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  • Eplox On 2017-04-22 08:32:50
  • Then, do you have a suggestion on how to take this team in Arena?
    (no ultrarares please)Edit: I don't have Danzo/Darui, so MB is kinda out of the question for me.



    This post was last edited by Eplox at 2017-4-22 08:35
Do you have cc control or ignite? Your main goal is to kill water main if she uses poison tai, then focus on Tsunade. I don't know your ninjas but you have to kill one or the other.
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On 2017-04-22 08:39:17Show this Author Only
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  • AkashaMoka On 2017-04-22 08:35:31
  • Do you have cc control or ignite? Your main goal is to kill water main if she uses poison tai, then focus on Tsunade. I don't know your ninjas but you have to kill one or the other.
yes, plenty of both actually. But the the enemy team keeps removing debuffs all over the place.
I use scarlet blaze,iruka, mei, SN right now.
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On 2017-04-22 08:42:05Show this Author Only
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  • Eplox On 2017-04-22 08:39:17
  • yes, plenty of both actually. But the the enemy team keeps removing debuffs all over the place.
    I use scarlet blaze,iruka, mei, SN right now.
That team doesn't seem too great really against 3 healers, why mei? Why iruka? for shields and interupts? I can understand that but why not danzo?
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On 2017-04-22 08:48:17Show this Author Only
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  • AkashaMoka On 2017-04-22 08:42:05
  • That team doesn't seem too great really against 3 healers, why mei? Why iruka? for shields and interupts? I can understand that but why not danzo?
well, I need to be able to handle other classes as well. So I'm not running a pure anti-healer team.
As for Mei, I don't have Danzo yet.

Either way, was lucky enough to meet the same team again and ended up in a 10round were Sailor Sakura and Kimimaro standing.



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On 2017-04-22 09:10:30Show this Author Only
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  • DrDoo On 2017-04-22 08:24:11
  • and how did you deal with sailor sakura??Just curious, because all my hits seem to heal her
Ignition + immobilize to stop her from doing anything, and kill her very slowly. The key to beat the sailor sakura team is to not try beat her if you don't have the dmg to outright kill her. Instead, you take out all her supports first. You have time, as sailor sakura build up damage slowly; especially if you have debuff clear to get rid of poison.
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On 2017-04-22 11:40:55Show this Author Only
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try to use mystery on the last healer after the enemy's first 3 ninjas do their action since SS teams don't rely on attacking mystery too much or use anbu assault tactics
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On 2017-04-22 11:48:08Show this Author Only
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I looked at the team once and began seeing dollar signs...

How much money was spent to get this team?

Only counter (in my opinion) would be a hard T1 nuke on tsunade using midnight (think Ay, darui, and wb asuma). Sakura is too tanky to die, main has too much hp, and kb is immune.
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