I mean, I dont mind getting hit so hard that the virtual nuts of all 4 of my characters leave the stratosphere go past Jupiter, say hello to the creator of the solar system and then travels back to my pc screen to reveal my hp dropped by 2/3rds, but I would like to know the reason for that, as it does not make sense, when a person with 1k more power (as per the arena) hits so hard

well his snaruto has 40%/40% from barrier 30%/30% from iruka and 15% ninjutsu from main and you have no defensive buffs(i guess you run bloodthirst passive cause of lightning armor)
and yes only init gets copied from your gear every other stat is the same for both players (his snaruto has same stats as if you would run snaruto, even if he was lvl 30 and you where lvl 85)
edit: ok scratch what i said about stats, wtf why does it say it is base stats for everyone if it does add stats that needs to be clarified in the arena interface asap!!!!!!!!
This post was last edited by Syldor at 2017-2-25 01:01

Hello there i recently answered this in my thread after checking it up, 10% of All your base data that increases power is applied in arena and initiative is applied 100%.


Hope this helps you /Ach

just his barrier up beating yours means he is stronger than you already imo

are you joking bro??? ofc naruto can destroy you with 1 rasen shuriken... wind > lightnings plus his got barrier + iruka buff + Main buff gg lightnings are weak against wind :D

And that 10% base stats makes quite a significant difference especially if you're Arena matched with someone of much higher BP. I've noticed the difference in the standard water meta team of Mabul, Mei, GNW 1010. Some with that lineup destroys you in Arena, and the next match, you can get the same line up, that scratches you barely.

His team is a buffed, well no wonder he 1hit combo your mifune

level 100 characters base stats + 10% of 75k BP vs = base stats + 7,500BP
level 100 characters base stats + 10% of 25k BP vs = base stats + 2,500BP

Difference of 5,000 BP
However a base Stat of level 100 is around 45k BP. So its a pretty small difference. However if both of you have a kage barrier ninja, and one is faster. your looking at 40% attack, which is closer to a 10,000BP difference assuming it buffs all 4 ninja. So basically..Refines/refines/refines xD

Same level of refines(which makes no sense but whatever)

Its all about buffs. Im Wind and if I succeed in sage Art, enemy dmg is reduced greatly.

I just wanna say Arena is complicated.

OP is just a * nothing to see here. He is lvl 85 but still noob lmao. wind counters lightning and onoki, iruka and main all buff naruto. Get rekt kid

Maybe the buffs he has and wind counters lighting... mifune isnt that tanky either so that probably is the reason you got murked son.

Allright dude, answer and riddle me this:
I have beat this exact same build numerous times in arena (even if Onokis Barrier was up). To answer someones question I got the Root warrior for passive so thats x2 rez. I know wind counters lightning, what I dont understand is that if only 10% of stats are used in arena and lvl 1 sage naruto is the same as lvl 10k sage naruto - why does an exact same build deal such a different amount of damage ?
I had matches where this build hit a MAX 10% of teams hp (before combo) and this one dealt roughly 60-70% teams HP.
And dont tell me its just the buffs and counters, because I had matches where a person used 8 gates lee (team was lee + onoki (a few had kurosuchi) + sage) and in some cases I did not even need a full combo to kill him in other cases my full combo + my barrier (in cases with kurosuchi) was not enough to nuke him down. Keeping in mind that mifune removes the shield - shield is out of play. This post was last edited by Smekla at 2017-2-25 18:22 This post was last edited by Smekla at 2017-2-25 18:23

Its not just me - my friend runs a wind main + gaara + temari + gakido.
I saw it with my own eyes where up against a water+mabui+tenten gnw+mei one match ten ten on the first round hit ~50% of entire teams hp with the mystery and in some cases did not deal as much as 10%.

With this specific encounter I saw different numbers with my build as well, but not as drastic, max was probably ~30% min was around 5% I guess.

That leads me to my initial point and just to clarify, I know wind beats lightning, I try to compensate that with ninja tools and + wind rezistance. But my initial point is - Why such a difference in numbers if only base stats or 10% of stats are used ?

I only got darui recently, before hand I used Kimimaru - so lets forget about the barriers as with that exact build - every one had a barrier up against me and the numbers are still drastically different. I can understand a difference in 10-20% - some people donate a sh** load, one guy in my friends server even sold his car for this game. What I dont understand is a difference in damage of 50-60% against the same setup.

And finally - I must not have asked this properly in the initial post. I understand I will get rekt by wind 2x more often than any other build, but I do want to understand if gear is relevant in arena, because at the moment, it really does look like it is. As yet again, got darui like 2 days back, previoustly I used Kimimaru which means - every one had their barriers up.
Cant really appreciate an answer wind>lightning. And iruka and barrier = rekt imo, much op *ed, so wow, much noob. As even if I am to consider for say a 5 star tenten or naruto - the difference in stats would be 10%, which does not add up to a difference in damage by 50-60% (this is keeping in mind, that naruto for say cant be a 2 star)

My damage is different as well, even using Kimi - I dealt up to 50% damage into naruto from Mifunes Mystery and I had a match, where it did not even kill a wind clone (from AOE damage). A dude who is the strongest earth in our server said he had a match, where he couldnt even kill a wind clone AT ALL - THROUGH OUT THE ENTIRE MATCH - thats from a guy who has 49k BP.
This post was last edited by Smekla at 2017-2-25 18:46

probably the moods and other stuff are been taken into account but we will never know since the mods and the devs of the games are definitely not communicating between each other.
A good example was that group summon. This post was last edited by Thane Krios at 2017-2-25 18:48

There aren't many people with 75k BP even if we take all of the servers.
Note this is in Kage rank, not in 6 paths, so the odds are even slimmer.

Say I do meet up with a person with 60k Bp (lets face it - every server has at least one)
So its his 6k Bp against my 4.5k bp. His barrier is +40% so its 8400k.

Say what you will - that power difference does not compensate for the difference as someone say in this post "for some to barely scratch the surface and others to heavy nuke you" as there will be a BP minimum even for a lvl 1 nab.
Oh and a bit of an eddit: BP involves Life, attack, ninjutsu, defence, resistance, crit, injury, control, combo, att and nin *ion, damage reduction and life recovery, so its not like all 4.5k and 8.4 is pure damage. its more like a 562 and 933 difference in attack (maybe even less of a difference) which, yet again, does not compensate or explain a 5-6x damage difference with the same build. It could be explained if the enemy had ~100-150k BP (if we only count the 10% stat usage and comparison base line of 45k bp)

This post was last edited by Smekla at 2017-2-25 19:42

Hello there thats not correct at all. I explained it perfectly well. 10% of all base data means Moods, magatamas, Refines you name it. Everything that increases your power is 10% applied in arena on top of the lvl 100 base stats.

This is why there is such a huge difference between certain players using the same teams.


As for us not communicating thats also not true we are constantly in contact.


/Ach

each time in arena, i always get ppl with much higher initiative than me. it's like impossible to win. they match us with older servers,it is plain obvious the older players WILL HAVE much higher initiative th* playing just for 2-3 months.

And they kept saying its fair matching. 9/10 times I always get match with older server players. i have this impression the mid levels or newer players are just not bothered with the arena anymore. u can see them always in training battle instead. now that is sad.....just plain sad.