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[ Suggestions ] While I don't have the answer, sugestions? GNW/Groups.

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On 2017-02-08 06:51:48Show All PostsDescending Order
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As most are, I'm sure your server is plauged by either 1 or 2 dominant groups. Why? Either they have recruited like mad, and all the premium members are in one or both of those groups. Needless to say it dumbs down the Pvp expierence when the point is all these different groups fighting and its either or winning every week since your servers start.

While server 1 has a huge populace, it has generally always been Immortal or Shinsen at the top, and then ET came in for a streak for 2months or so? But those members have left and now formed shinsen's power house. I'm all for and don't care about winning or losing but It's rather repeatative seeing the same winners everyweek due to everyone joining one group or another. A breath of fresh air would be nice or something for smaller groups to actually particiapte in GNW as it seems whenever we get pit up against so on Wensedays literally 1 or 2 people show up for that GNW to fight us.. Yay fun?? and discourages smaller groups to even attempt in participating.


Like Matsuri(or as we are told) power brackets for Groups should be created for say a 6- Paths sennin league for x amount of group power +, and kage for x amount of power.. etc etc. This would encourage even the smaller groups to participate for there here-say bracket. This is fundamentally the only thing I can see to encourage growth in other groups instead of everyone joining one or the other of the power houses who win week in and week out? The awards could be the same or slightly dimished in pack per the bracket.

Open to suggestions? or tinkers to my ideas? Just a suggestion I thought would appeal to our PvP and to smaller groups and the f2p player based groups.

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On 2017-02-08 11:10:35Show All Posts
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  • Dym On 2017-02-08 08:30:08
  • Most servers already don't get enough (8 or more) groups to really have full gnw so i am against any kind of split, this suggestion would be good if gnw was cross server.
Simple reason for that... They keep on keeping with these new servers 4x a week.(not really 4 a week but you get the drift.) But you do bring up a valid point.:P This post was last edited by KingKaimen at 2017-2-7 19:11
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On 2017-02-08 11:42:43Show All Posts
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  • LordMeul On 2017-02-08 11:23:38
  • so why now? what happened when "inmortals" was 1st place everyweek...
    now u cant.. and u are asking a new feature? jajaja
    dats not gonna happen.
    the salty is real...
You're trying to create a flame out of a suggestion when I clearly said I could care less about win or loss as is any post I've ever said, if I'm going to dump money into a game I want longevity, and the premium players cant do that by themselves. I've simply suggested *ternative for lower groups to have a chance at a prize pool and drive more activity in GNW and hopefully at that have smaller players grow and actually * around? How does my suggestion create *ternative to a bracket where Immortal would be not there with Shins or ET? Making whatever you're saying even valid? A feudal attempt to turn this into a salty/flame war post is non-existent. This post was last edited by KingKaimen at 2017-2-7 19:45 This post was last edited by KingKaimen at 2017-2-7 19:46
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On 2017-02-08 11:44:51Show All Posts
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  • xpwnagexlucario On 2017-02-08 11:35:57
  • But then in the Kage or Six path league there is always gonna be one that is gonna dominate that league.
Which is going to happen regardless in ranked, or GNW. The price of recharging heavily within groups. But at least in doing so, the implementation would have groups with 10 players and 100,000 Power total be in there own bracket and win maybe 2 Legendary Packs and 5Hero packs for winning Or whatever it may be? Is that not enough for smaller groups to grow and want to be active in GNW instead of saying "oh well, Shinsen or Immortal will win this week no point in even trying". This post was last edited by KingKaimen at 2017-2-7 19:50
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On 2017-02-08 12:23:42Show All Posts
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I like how a suggestion post has turned into a server 1 flame by some kids. Are you some 5 year old kid who fell of his rocker Lord muel? Stop trying to add wood to a fire, if you have nothing constructive see your way out of this tread.

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On 2017-02-08 12:31:39Show All Posts
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  • Yui Azure On 2017-02-08 12:07:06
  • I wanted to know your answer.
    1. You aren't happy with Shinsengumi or Endles Tsukuyomi?
    2. Many players leave or inactive?
    3. Why don't you recruit other players as they do?
    4. Have you ever think something wrong with your leader?
1. You aren't happy with Shinsengumi or Endles Tsukuyomi?
I have no problem with either group as I have friends in both and harbor no ill will or hatred too any member in this game. This suggestion was at nothing in regards to the top groups being changed at all or in any way for the betterment of my own group, It was a suggestion for groups who WILL never have any chance of getting into a top tier group nor there group ever competing in a GNW since they wont have a chance at any rewards or even any satisfaction out of it.
2. Many players leave or inactive?
Not sure to which context you're relating to, as in which players?
3. Why don't you recruit other players as they do?
While we don't openly recruit and spam chat we do recruit higher level and BP players all the time as we replenish kicked inactive members.
4. Have you ever think something wrong with your leader?
And no, I find nothing wrong with him. What this community likes to do is bash those in a positions for faults within the game I'd say for no reason at all, or like that of high school when someone hates someone you all just fuel some unknown hatred for someone and then everyone ends up disliking a person because one person doesn't. I find the immaturity and lack of respect quite laughable with people who try to start banter wars. But back to your question, he's been most helpful to those in our group in any way possible. And here such creates no thought of me thinking anything is wrong with him.
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On 2017-02-08 23:43:43Show All Posts
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  • Ragnet On 2017-02-08 17:49:29
  • Hi, Part of the problem is that to do group instance u need a pretty general level of power in a group. This limits the people who can join a group to a bp level that is in range of at least the lowest active member (actually doing gi). There is also the level considerations where u need to be above a certain level to do the highest group instance. So I tend not to take anyone in who wont be able to reach the point where they are able to join in activities.
    At the same time I have given suggestions to them of where they might better fit (atm I dont know since there has been a lot of merging of groups and i am not aware of the situations). Also, since we get around 60-70 people showing up for war I have told people to join other groups that I notice in previous wars didnt have full battlefields since id rather not have people sit on the sidelines and not partake in the experience. ----Ragnet
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This I understand, and for this the chances of any new player joining any of the top groups is non existent unless your pockets are deep enough to catch up. While Immortal heeds the same ideas for new recruits I'm sure it's not different from any of the top groups.

What my suggestion is implying is groups such as Immortal Shinsen & ET etc etc, groups lets say over 1,000,000 BP in there own bracket and lets say were not even at the top bracket yet to raise the ceiling and longevity.

But for instance , groups power brackets:
1. 100,000-550,000
2. 550,001-1,250,000
3. 1,250,001-2,500,000
4. 2,500,001-5,000,000
5. 5,000,001-8,000,000
6. 8,000,001-12,000,000
etc etc.

Now by doing so these lower groups wouldn't be pitted against the giant premium members groups and in doing so will actually take part in GNW every week instead of throwing in a white towel or pitting one member against us in prelims. The awards would be different for each bracket if this were to happen.

Now in theory if lets say Shinsen or immortal or any new upcoming group hit a power bracket before another one and was in a bracket of there own, lets say a new bracket doesn't open up until at least 8 groups are able to be a part of that bracket. In retrospect to this becoming a problem on the main stream server with GNW; I should prob open up another thread for it, but I'm surprised Oasis doesn't have a test server, or PBE server to test patches and implementation before going live to work out any kinks which would help with any problems, understand it is a child company to the CN one, but I personally believe a bracketed system would help nurture lower level groups and help them to fully flourish instead of being discouraged to even do any PVP.
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On 2017-02-09 05:19:02Show All Posts
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  • Tobei On 2017-02-09 01:06:57
  • As I've previously stated to you before.
    Suggestions are accepted no matter what version of the game. If a suggestion is great and handled with care. CN will receive it first and from there, other versions as well. The community as a whole has a voice. Not just an older version, We all work together to bring players things that they look forward too. To simply say "No in CN, Not here" is astonishing and *. You've been warned for it.

    @KingKaimen.

    Unfortunately, I don't see cross-server GNW as something that's possible at the moment.
    It's a niche idea, especially Power Bracket forms. Also enabling this completely removes the rivalry aspect of what Guilds are meant to have. Thus completely alienating the server to form a major group to represent that server. It actually does more harm than good. Each power bracket would necessarily have its own rewards as well.

    Personally, I'm against the idea. However, I can respect it. I'll let the team know about it.
This isn't for a cross server platform but my point at saying like matsuri was an idea that you'd be facing groups within your power bracket.

As it stands there are 3 dominant groups on server 1, more or less 2 that it always comes down too, and most likely will be shinsin for the fourth coming road. Which I'm not bothered by what I'm implying is within a sever a bracketing of groups power so they may face groups within there power bracket. As of right now these groups that may have 40members but all an avg of lets say 15-20k; Thats a group total of 600,000 - 800,000. Now when GNW rolls around they don't even try they might have 1 or 2 members or just stack one land in GNW. Otherwise they don't even bother trying or showing up. An implementation of what I'm suggesting is an idea at that they would actually attempt and compete if it were other groups within there power range and now a group with 110 members having 60 members show up and decimate you at 2,400,000 total power versus what they have at 600-800k.. No contest why try? In the long run why even try every week against the behemoth premium groups? So to reiterate if I haven't done so already it's an idea to get smaller groups more active and feel as if they are apart of GNW and may reap some awards.
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