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[ Azure Fang ] Rant about 2.0 water

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On 2017-01-07 10:33:35Show All PostsDescending Order
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So water is a little broken now, the neurotoxin talent seems to be going off all the time. Had a few matches where water mains shark mystery inflicted chaos on my whole team turn 2, pretty much game over after that. GNW Tenten for some reason was buffed to no cooldown on mystery and a 15% crit increase for 3 turns instead of the old two. Turn 1 mystery is just *, since she does so much damage. You are forced to have and use a control ability on her just to make sure she won't use her skill on you.

I felt the mains were semi balanced before 2.0 with only minor tweeks here and there to bring them closer together but now it seems like they are way off balance.
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On 2017-01-07 12:47:50Show All Posts
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  • JustAClone On 2017-01-07 12:05:20
  • Whole team, eh?
    So no clones or what?
    No genjutsu mirror reflection? That absolutely RUINS super shark bomb.

    As for the % chance of inflicting crit. with neurotoxin . . I haven't checked it out yet with super shark bomb . . but that's because of the risk of genjutsu mirror. I usually use either Skewer (One Punch Azure Fang) or her heal mystery.

    Side note, Skewer is such a good ability imo because it is also Tai jutsu and thus can inflict poison Tai asap, unlike shark bomb. Then you can happily neurotoxin the enemy as you've wasted any genjutsu mirror.

    Overall, she shouldn't be applying chaos onto your WHOLE team . .because then your team, no offense, probably *s. Show us your team, maybe?
    And furthermore, mains like fire can now apply a mini root of warrior and shield with his mystery. Pretty sure it also debuffs. Dance of impetus? etc. etc.
No clones, running MB so no genjutsu mirror for me. I suppose I should run root, though itd only help half the team. Also only 77 so no access to 4th on mystery or 2nd passive. The only problem with the debuff skills like dance and whatnot is they only work if the character isn't under control effects. once that happens you can't use the skill to debuff anyway.

My team is
*X
Sasuke MB Hinata
X Guy X
Shadow blade, assassins blade, lightning sword, anbu, bloodthirsty, shark This post was last edited by Ryukashin at 2017-1-7 12:49
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On 2017-01-08 03:26:29Show All Posts
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  • RyoheiYagyuu On 2017-01-07 14:31:15
  • You either use lightning armor to first round burst or root of warrior and second round burst
You can't use lightning armor first round to prevent debuffs anymore, the change to it makes it remove debuffs (which doesn't seem to work, as the ignite and poison stacks remained after activation) instead of making you immune. Once you are under chaos, acupuncture, etc, you don't have the ability to activate lightning armor.
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On 2017-01-09 06:42:47Show All Posts
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  • LargeBoy On 2017-01-08 23:45:20
  • I have GNW1010 and mines not been buffed. You sure about that?
Yeah Battlefield cooldown on her mystery was removed allowing her to go off turn 1, and her crit buff lasts an extra turn now.
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On 2017-01-12 01:49:47Show All Posts
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So because water has a good team I should have to run a counter team. Are we really getting into the meta/counter-meta argument? Because that's when games stop being fun, at least to me before 2.0 I felt I could pick any main and build a decent team with them, now it seems to be all well these people get run so I need CC and the ability to remove debuffs and oh wait there no open spots for the people I wanted to put in my team.

At least this game isn't at the TCG level of BS on deck composition. meta in TCGs is you either run meta or you build your entire deck around stopping the top deck of the season, then new cards come out and you start over.

Anyway, I have not personally played water, I do not know of her strengths and weaknesses, only that after the update her control got a lot stronger and she became more annoying overall. Her team may be squishy if the opponent has the right team and the water user isn't paying attention but mei tenten mabui and main is just a strong team regardless, turn 1 tenten mystery, turn 2 mei and pretty much game over after that.
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