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SCARLET BLAZE GUIDE"TOBI-SHIKA-BLAZE FORMATION"
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Version History
Version 1.00, 2016-10-9 : CreatedVersion 1.10, 2016-10-11 :- Add "Team Weakness", "In-Depth *ysis" and "Alternative team" section in page 1 article #5- Change the title from " A Guide To Stay Competitive Part II" to " The Birth of Tobi-Shika-Blaze Formation"Version 1.11, 2016-10-12 : Remove "Regulation" sectionVersion 1.20, 2016-10-21 :- Remove "3 important ninja" and "the 4th ninja section" section- Change "In-Depth *ysis" section name into "Class and Job Description" and move it to article #1- Add "Round 2, Death Combo" and "Achievement" section in article #1
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Foreword
Hello everyone, this is me, your avarage guy from server 44 again, XYZDream.As of today i'll share my current line up which in my opinion is strong formation for middle game, even though this formation using an unusual ninja. I will try my best to explain this formation as detail as i can, so that you do not get the wrong idea. This is my second attempt to make guide for this community. You can (if you want) read my previous Azure Fang Guide HERE. If you have any question regarding my first and second guide, feel free to ask me through PM or commend in commend section. For your information, english is not my native language. So i'm really sorry if i make mistake over grammar or spelling here and there.
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Formation, Talent and Summon
Here is my current formation with the talent and summon

NOTE: 1. the 3rd passive is really up to you, i prefer clone for more defensive style.
2. Gamaken (gold summon) will perfect this line up as he will make naruto mystery combo end with shikamaru chase (gamachu did not make naruto mystery combo end with shikamaru chase).
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Round 2, Death Combo
In this section, i will explain the combo i use to kill 1 of enemy ninja in round 2.1. Skill you need :2. How to use it?- Choose your target- Activate tobi mystery- When the combo end with shikamaru chase, see if enemy has any kind of interutptor, if not immedietaly activate shikamaru mystery to the immobile target- See the ninja die or close to die by shikamaru skill.- If your target still not die from this combo, finish him using naruto rasengan at the beginning of round 3.
3. Who to target?- Main except crimson fist- healer who can remove debuff- squishy ninja
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Class and Job Description
Here i will explain about class and job each ninja i use in my current line up.
1. Fire Main a.k.a Scarlet Blaze
Class: Amplifier, Disabler
Job:
- Combo Chaser/linker
- Debuff enemy with Imprison (Imprison enemy will be damaged if they cast mystery, but can not kill it)- Debuff enemy with sleep
- Amplify all teammate damage to enemy under ignition status

2. Uzumaki Naruto (normal 3+ star mode)
Class: Offensive Tank
Job:
- Tank the team with his 3 wind clone for round 1
- Round 1 initiator combo if there are at least 1 clone available
- Round 3, 5, 7 (and so on) mystery initiator with his odama rasengan / rasenshuriken

3. Tobi
Class: Heavy Hitter
Job:
- Deal damage to enemy with his insane damage from chase and spam his cheap low cooldown mystery every 2 round
- Round 2, 4, 6 (and so on) mystery initiator
- Combo chaser/linker
- Debuff enemy with Ignition

4. Nara Shikarmaru
Class: Disabler, Heavy Hitter (with mystery on immobile enemy)
job:
- Do insane damage to an immobile enemy with his mystery
- combo chaser/linker
- Debuff enemy with Immobile
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Achievment
To show you that this is a good line up, here a few thing i achieve using this line up.
1. 2 people in my server hate me because i use this line up, JK, they just hate this line up and still befriend with me, i hope XD2. One time reach ranked 1 in my group of sage war battlefield3. Twice reach ranked 2 in my group of sage war battlefield. I took a picture from the second time i reach ranked 2 in sage war using this line up, i include time and date so it is a valid proof. here it is:

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To Be Continued in Page 1, Article #5 This post was last edited by XYZDream at 2016-10-22 15:31
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Is shikamaro good against same class opponent(fire main mirror genjutsu)?...how can he cause immobile against fire?
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  • Is shikamaro good against same class opponent(fire main mirror genjutsu)?...how can he cause immobile against fire?
shikamaru alone, can not cause immobile to enemy fire main with mirror genjutsu..
this is also why i choose tobi in this formation, as all of his attack (standard, mystery, chase) cause ignition to enemy. it will pop enemy mirror genjutsu, so you can land your immobile. mirror genjutsu only reflect one debuff.

hope this help :))

btw, i will post the upgrade in the next commend, if you have time, please see it ;)
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a valid tactic, i'll try it later op.
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Current Team Weakness
1. Generally this team weakness is facing an immune enemy. as you may know my play style is about controling people. if i can't control him, than i'm screwed XD2. Dealing with people who have power 5k above you is hard. I am sure i dont need to explain this to you, right? :|3. in my server there are 1 team that i cannot defeat yet with this line up. his formation consist of Sage naruto, Iruka, Sage jiraiya, and scarlet blaze who take first mystery and death mirrage. i dont know why, maybe i'm just to noob for him. RIP me
i think its enough weakness for now, i will add more if people in my server kill me so much that i think this line up become useless in my server.
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Shikamaru Mystery Damage
This section will cover mainly for shikamaru damage. Note that this test was done on kakashi clone. The purpose of this section is to let you know how much damage shikamaru can deal to a single target.
1. Damage done to normal enemy (no debuff)
2. Damage done to enemy under immobile status
3. Damage done to enemy under immobile and ignite status + amplify by fire main passive on ignite enemy(note: ignore the hit count, i get 11 after the other and shikamaru hit kakashi clone)
Do you see the difference in damage? yummy ;P
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Alternative Team
In case you do not want to use naruto, you c*e this following line up as *ternative team to use. I will add a few note for each line up.1. Tobi-Shika-Blaze + Kisame (dont forget to change the summon to Kyushoku Deer and change the 3rd passive to Death Mirrage)this line up offer more offensive style to you. With kisame and Tobi, you get guarantee 1 immobile enemy each round as both tobi and kisame mystery cause knockdown. Kisame can stand there alone and be just fine because he can gain his healt back to almost full thanks to his samehada which absorb chakra and get 10% his life each time the party get additional chakra. The reason why i not run this formation is because kisame is just 3 star. his healt gain is not that amazing to stand alone in 1 row. especially if you meet enemy with ninja in bottom and middle row and get comboed, kisame will just die in round 1. Also, kisame can proc accupunture to enemy with his standard attack.
2. Tobi-Shika-Blaze + Kurenai (talents and summon is the same with current line up)Kurenai can give HP (much HP) and shield to front liner (tobi or oboro clone). Her chase will not affect combo if you pur her exactly like the formation.
3. Tobi-Shika-Blaze + Hinata (Take death mirrage as 3rd passive, change summon to tonton or chameleon)Hinata can absorb almost any hit in round 1 and guaratee accupunture if you proc combo. But with the GNW kankuro being this month sign in reward, i doubt that she will be usefull as kankuro standar attack will just ignore or pierce through her shield.
4. Tobi-Shika-Blaze + Asuma WB (same with number 3)Actually i dont know if i can list him here, as the title said, this guide is for F2P player and Asuma WB is considered Rare here. Anyway if you ever get him, you can replace naruto with him and get more output damage as long as your healt bar stay full. But i think he is more fragile than kisame. On top of that, he cannot gain life :/ Your choice.
5. Tobi-Shika-Blaze + Kabuto (same with number 2)If you like healer on your team, this he can replace naruto
6. Tobi-Shika-Blaze + Shino (same with number 2)i've tried this only one, and i must say that i regret cultivating him (RIP cult rune and awakening material). i though his mystery cooldown is 2 round. well guess i have to * it up :p
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For now i will end my guide here, if you find this guide is good and want an upgrade for this guide, please do commend in the commend section and tell me your opinion about this formation. I will add more staff like battle simulation or maybe another alternative team. if you have an idea to upgrade this line up, just say it in the commend. See you soon guys :kiss:

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woops, forgot the image for alternative team, brb :Dedit: as i've already place the picture, i will mark this post for future update. See ya
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Lightining mains got a very simple counter to this lineup.
Root of warrior - makes sword bearing ninja's immune to debuffs and also increase attacks for 2 rounds.. This lineup will fail utterly against such a team. :'( Also, keeping tobi in front row, is a bit risky.
Against other mains, its a great setup. Especially, if opponent have a key ninja in front row directly against tobi. Tobi will burn- whom you can immobile with with your main first and then use shikamaru mystery for some huge dmg.
Great job. Keep up the good work.:D
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Looks good so far!!
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  • Sourav On 2016-10-11 17:41:35
  • Lightining mains got a very simple counter to this lineup.
    Root of warrior - makes sword bearing ninja's immune to debuffs and also increase attacks for 2 rounds.. This lineup will fail utterly against such a team. :'( Also, keeping tobi in front row, is a bit risky.
    Against other mains, its a great setup. Especially, if opponent have a key ninja in front row directly against tobi. Tobi will burn- whom you can immobile with with your main first and then use shikamaru mystery for some huge dmg.
    Great job. Keep up the good work.:D
hi sourav, thank for the visit..

have to agree with ninja with debuff immunity will screw this team as i mention in my "current team weakness" section above. but if my tobi have mor initiative than his move 1 ninja, maybe i still can win the fight.

about tobi in front row, are you talking about the one in alternative team? or in my current line up? if it was in my current line up, no, tobi is not on the front line, i have oboro clone (fire main clone) in front of tobi. this clone is quite tanky and he can tank for 1 or 2 round (maybe 3 round if i'm lucky).
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  • Looks good so far!!
thanks Solo, if you have any advice for me, just tell me XD
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With kankuro?
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  • Uzii On 2016-10-12 23:24:11
  • With kankuro?
kankuro mystery and chase is not compatible with tobi-shika-blaze formation. but if you want him badly, replace kurenai with kankuro
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sorry for the bump, but i've just update this guide, add few thing, remove a few thing.
and so, once again, give me your opinion on this guide. thanks and see you soon :kiss:
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hi i am a sai user, is it okay to change naruto to sai coz i use his tough lions as a defense. ?
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Heeyyyy, so im finding a way to use your Tobi-Shika-Blaze formation to TOBI-SHIKA-BLADE formation LOL
I have all the ninjas in you alternative teams but i dont have Wind Blade Asuma.

I have this Line up :
with talents : 1-3-2-3-2 and as Ninja Dog Shiba as summon

is it good ?

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  • Tobirama_Senju On 2016-10-21 14:52:03
  • hi i am a sai user, is it okay to change naruto to sai coz i use his tough lions as a defense. ?
Hello kind sir,
Literally, naruto can be replace by anyone you like. Just make sure that the combo end with shikamaru chase so you can immobile enemy after combo.

The problem with sai is he have chase that also chase knockdown (same like kurenai), so maybe you want him in the 4th move thus shikamaru can end the combo with his chase
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  • AfterEffects On 2016-10-21 15:19:11
  • Heeyyyy, so im finding a way to use your Tobi-Shika-Blaze formation to TOBI-SHIKA-BLADE formation LOL
    I have all the ninjas in you alternative teams but i dont have Wind Blade Asuma.

    I have this Line up :
    with talents : 1-3-2-3-2 and as Ninja Dog Shiba as summon

    is it good ?

    This post was last edited by AfterEffects at 2016-10-21 15:21
Hi again, fellow shikamaru lover :loveliness:

About asuma WB, well i got him by pure luck so dont mind him :P
And about your lineup, that is more than good dude. With that talent you can proc combo with MB standard attack when tobi mystery is on cooldown and you can accupunture 1 of enemy ninja with dangerous mystery (like SM naruto) so he cant activate his mystery in round 2 and 3
if you change your mystery to 2nd mystery which cause knockdown (same with tobi), literally, you can immobile and accupunture enemy ninja every round (if you use the mystery alternatively) start at round 2.

The problem is, this month sign in reward is gnw kaknkuro, he and fire main can ignore hinata taunt and can combo or sleep your tobi in round 1.
My advise is *yze the current meta in your server, if they have ninja like sage naruto or gnw kankuro (which is really dangerous) put clone in front of your ninja so your tobi/hinata dont get combo in round 1. This is also the reason why i choose naruto over the other, so many sage naruto in my server :'(
Also, carefull with someone who have accupunture, since we dont have healer, we will have hard time clearing debuff.

anyway, good luck and have fun using shikamaru.. :)



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  • XYZDream On 2016-10-21 15:57:07
  • Hi again, fellow shikamaru lover :loveliness:

    About asuma WB, well i got him by pure luck so dont mind him :P
    And about your lineup, that is more than good dude. With that talent you can proc combo with MB standard attack when tobi mystery is on cooldown and you can accupunture 1 of enemy ninja with dangerous mystery (like SM naruto) so he cant activate his mystery in round 2 and 3
    if you change your mystery to 2nd mystery which cause knockdown (same with tobi), literally, you can immobile and accupunture enemy ninja every round (if you use the mystery alternatively) start at round 2.

    The problem is, this month sign in reward is gnw kaknkuro, he and fire main can ignore hinata taunt and can combo or sleep your tobi in round 1.
    My advise is *yze the current meta in your server, if they have ninja like sage naruto or gnw kankuro (which is really dangerous) put clone in front of your ninja so your tobi/hinata dont get combo in round 1. This is also the reason why i choose naruto over the other, so many sage naruto in my server :'(
    Also, carefull with someone who have accupunture, since we dont have healer, we will have hard time clearing debuff.

    anyway, good luck and have fun using shikamaru.. :)



    This post was last edited by XYZDream at 2016-10-21 15:58
Thanks for your great feedback !

Its true that there are other players use GNW Kankuro on their teams so is this line up okay ?
Shika Main MainClone
Tobi Hinata X
X X X


I got a question too if you dont mind. It's about the fight strategy.
At round 1 i use Hinata's jutsu, with luck someone starts a combo and it ends with Shikamaru's chase which causes Immobile right (as the combo'ed ninja changes color a bit to a shade of purple). So what i do is activate shika's mystery to the immobiled ninja cause damage? or does it? or so i thought?. What it actually does is he causing the Immobile status and not the damage?
Am i doing it wrong?
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  • AfterEffects On 2016-10-21 16:25:13
  • Thanks for your great feedback !

    Its true that there are other players use GNW Kankuro on their teams so is this line up okay ?
    Shika Main MainClone
    Tobi Hinata X
    X X X


    I got a question too if you dont mind. It's about the fight strategy.
    At round 1 i use Hinata's jutsu, with luck someone starts a combo and it ends with Shikamaru's chase which causes Immobile right (as the combo'ed ninja changes color a bit to a shade of purple). So what i do is activate shika's mystery to the immobiled ninja cause damage? or does it? or so i thought?. What it actually does is he causing the Immobile status and not the damage?
    Am i doing it wrong?
no problem, it is my pleasure to help. :)

maybe i will make it like this:
main - tobi - clone
shika - hinata - X
X - X - X
with talent 1 - 3 - 2 - 3 - 1
note: using these talent, if combo proc by tobi or MB standard attack (cause highfloat), the combo did not end with shika chase.
note2 : using these talent, if combo start by toby mystery or hinata and shika standard attack (cause knockdown), the combo end with shikamaru chase.

about your question, i dont know why you said immobile change color to shade of purple. this is not the color of immobile ninja, if ninja were immobile, their color will change to dark black like this:


i will tell how shikamaru mystery work base on my experience.
1. when you cast shikamaru mystery on the target, computer will check first wether he/she under immobile debuff or not.
2a. if enemy is not under immobile debuff, shikamaru will inflict minor damage and immobile to the target.
2b. if enemy is under immobile debuff, shikamaru will remove the immobile status then he deal massive damage base on shikamaru taijutsu and ninjutsu damage and after he deal damage, he will cast immobile on enemy again.
this is base on my experience though which happen 99,99% ;P

if by any change you land shikamaru immobile animation (his chase) but when you use mystery on the target did not deal massive damage, i think there are 2 things that gone wrong
1. shikamaru immobile animation (his chase) is not causing immobile. this is entirely possible if you and your opponent have massive different in control stats. you can see your control stats by go to char window then select details. sadly you cant check how much other person control unless you ask them, and they answer with honest answer.
2. bug love you and he cant let you go :lol. just kidding, but maybe it is a bug. report it to the customer service immidietly.

thats all my answer to your question, hopefully i not bored you because it was wall of text :P
oh if you have question again, feel free to ask anytime, but i'm afraid i will not give answer till tomorrow. see you soon dude ;) This post was last edited by XYZDream at 2016-10-21 18:49
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  • XYZDream On 2016-10-21 18:14:05
  • no problem, it is my pleasure to help. :)

    maybe i will make it like this:
    main - tobi - clone
    shika - hinata - X
    X - X - X
    with talent 1 - 3 - 2 - 3 - 1
    note: using these talent, if combo proc by tobi or MB standard attack (cause highfloat), the combo did not end with shika chase.
    note2 : using these talent, if combo start by toby mystery or hinata and shika standard attack (cause knockdown), the combo end with shikamaru chase.

    about your question, i dont know why you said immobile change color to shade of purple. this is not the color of immobile ninja, if ninja were immobile, their color will change to dark black like this:


    i will tell how shikamaru mystery work base on my experience.
    1. when you cast shikamaru mystery on the target, computer will check first wether he/she under immobile debuff or not.
    2a. if enemy is not under immobile debuff, shikamaru will inflict minor damage and immobile to the target.
    2b. if enemy is under immobile debuff, shikamaru will remove the immobile status then he deal massive damage base on shikamaru taijutsu and ninjutsu damage and after he deal damage, he will cast immobile on enemy again.
    this is base on my experience though which happen 99,99% ;P

    if by any change you land shikamaru immobile animation (his chase) but when you use mystery on the target did not deal massive damage, i think there are 2 things that gone wrong
    1. shikamaru immobile animation (his chase) is not causing immobile. this is entirely possible if you and your opponent have massive different in control stats. you can see your control stats by go to char window then select details. sadly you cant check how much other person control unless you ask them, and they answer with honest answer.
    2. bug love you and he cant let you go :lol. just kidding, but maybe it is a bug. report it to the customer service immidietly.

    thats all my answer to your question, hopefully i not bored you because it was wall of text :P
    oh if you have question again, feel free to ask anytime, but i'm afraid i will not give answer till tomorrow. see you soon dude ;) This post was last edited by XYZDream at 2016-10-21 18:49
Thank you for the modification of the line-up!
Im still new to the Skikamaru gig :) So im learning how to use really, thats why i ask noob questions LOL

Try #1:
It was like this, Hinata starts a combo at round 1 and it ends with Shika's immobile chase.
At round 2, i used Shika's chase and i thought it would give the damage but alas ! The immobile status is gone by at the start of round 2.
So i knew that his Chase Immobile status only lasts for the current round ? And loses it at the next.
Is this right? Or is it just me? :)

Try #2:
I used my Lightning Main's Chidori jutsu and started a combo and ends with Shika's immobile chase status.
I then used Shika's Jutsu to the immobiled ninja, and BOOM It gave the damage :) yipeee
This was in round 3 by the way, when the Chakra was at 60.
is this the right way to do it?

Oh, it wasn't a bug HAHAHA I was wrong about the purple stuff also, it was the paralysis + ignite debuff.
Sorry for being nooby :) LOL
Again, Thanks for all the help and i don't mind waiting :)
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