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On 2022-07-19 04:25:03Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Hi folks more shisui bs here.

First and foremost if shisui only causes sluggish with his chase and it only grants additional standard attacks if a character attacks the unit affected with sluggish then how come it grants additional moves to characters like tsunade rs and earth main? they just heal and put up shields yet somehow shisuis "sluggish" grants them extra moves, its almost like the entire skillset of shisui is completely wrong and does not even remotely describe his actual skills.

If shisui was hit 5 by regular debuffs and landed every hit on a unit with "sluggish" that could technically explain him getting 10 attacks ( assuming they stack which i do not know if they do), which is not whats happening here because he isnt being hit by any debuffs nor hitting anyone unit that causes debuffs but even then it still would not explain the other 3 characters in the team getting double digit standards too.........and even with this caveat being said it still doesnt make sense because even without landing his chase to cause sluggish to begin with he still gets all these attacks, but only for certain accounts


Secondly ponder me this. In space time the shisui susanoo's belonging to certain members of a certain group that is comprised almost entirely of plants and mods get 10 standard attacks every single round as do the other 3 characters on their team yet the shisui susanoo's not belonging to plants or mods are extremely lucky to get 2 standard attacks in a round even if they land their chase and get hit with a hole host of standard ( no "neglects immunity" ) debuffs


Thirdly fire mains standard can cause ignition even to immune opponents as it says it neglects immunity, yet indra's passive says units attacking him will be hit with "irremovable ignition with neglects immunity" but yet again the shisuis belonging to specific players are immune to this, their shisuis cannot be hit by any debuff at all, including ones that neglect immunity yet when they face an opposing shisui they are able to cause debuffs to other players. Side note, anyone who uses shisui in arena should be put to sleep, I have him so this isnt said out of jealousy but he is a cheat code, 6p, etr, kushi, there are plenty of "cancer" characters but shisui is a straight up cheat, you can go in arena with just him and your main and unless your opponent has a shisui with higher init you will win, the presence of shisui determines the outcome before a single attack takes place


Anybody got any rational explanation for this before it is inevitably deleted because this thread is ran by the mods not oasis




This post was last edited by Retired on 2022-07-19 04:25:03.
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On 2022-07-19 05:39:53Show this Author Only
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lol sound like some who do not have Shisui , but I mean yeah shisui explanation and how he work does not seem correct and for sure you thread will probably deleted cuz it make Oasis and the mods look bad with ur last section , but you could post that in the help section and mod will review it.

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On 2022-07-19 06:51:39Show this Author Only
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Maybe it's simply a difference in chosen breakthroughs for the particular fight? Maybe the ones that could afford to get all the shisui breaks are the ones that have the OP standard stuff and the other ones that seem to not have that many standards simply don't have that breakthrough yet.

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On 2022-07-19 21:51:17Show this Author Only
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Yeah shisui have too many bugs, he can get 10 attacks without receiving any debuff (on my server shisui users saying thats "normal" and its not bug...) but in arena he is beatable you just need to nuke him before he can do his standards in 1st round, in non arena battles - well good luck :D

There were always at least 1 OP ninja but never that much OP that he has no counter...




This post was last edited by Basarraa on 2022-07-19 21:53:42.
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On 2022-07-19 22:06:26Show this Author Only
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Hi friend

I totally agree with u that shisui susanoo BT description a bit confusing

Therefore i also referring to other website for more information about it

FYI (or maybe u already knew it), when shisui susanoo BT came out initially, his passive 2 Y will grant up to 10 standard attack per round (omg)

Luckily they quickly reduced it to 5 standard attack per round (even that still high)


First and foremost if shisui only causes sluggish with his chase and it only grants additional standard attacks if a character attacks the unit affected with sluggish then how come it grants additional moves to characters like tsunade rs and earth main? they just heal and put up shields yet somehow shisuis "sluggish" grants them extra moves, its almost like the entire skillset of shisui is completely wrong and does not even remotely describe his actual skills.


For sluggish (aka slow reflex in some website) only be applied if shisui SUCCESSFULLY chase (chase Y)

Keep in mind that, sluggish NEGLECT IMMUNITY & IRREMOVABLE during that round when applied


For your case, i would like to know whether your tsunade RS & earth main INVOLVED in shisui chase or not

earth main chase: 3 out of 4 chase is TAI/NIN

all chase summon: TAI/NIN

tsunade RS chase: TAI


If both tsunade RS & earth main INVOLVED in chase combo AFTER shisui successfully chase (mean that opponent already have sluggish which NEGLECT IMMUNITY), then tsunade RS & earth main is already considered CAUSING taijutsu damage

Therefore granted 60% chance of extra standard (in which their case is healing/shield)

Thats why it looks like they got extra standard despite having non-attacking type of standard


This is my opinion only & i might be wrong.. lets hear from others

However, if u really confident that tsunade RS & earth main DOES NOT INVOLVED with shisui chase combo whatsover, then i'm sorry my friend.. i donno how in the world they get the extra standard


If shisui was hit 5 by regular debuffs and landed every hit on a unit with "sluggish" that could technically explain him getting 10 attacks ( assuming they stack which i do not know if they do), which is not whats happening here because he isnt being hit by any debuffs nor hitting anyone unit that causes debuffs but even then it still would not explain the other 3 characters in the team getting double digit standards too.........and even with this caveat being said it still doesnt make sense because even without landing his chase to cause sluggish to begin with he still gets all these attacks, but only for certain accounts


I personally never see P2-P4 in shisui team that can standard until double digit.. during my unluckiest day, opponent P2-P4 all 3 of them have 5 chase each :(

However there is another thing to ponder

Another thing that i also do not know is, if shisui cause sluggish to 2 different opponent (keep in mind he can chase 2 times just after his standard)

If P2 to P4 (even shisui himself) attacking with TAI or NIN/TAI to that 2 sluggish opponent

Eg, obito 10t attack random row of 2 sluggish opponent

Eg, jiraiya toad standard which attack all opponent in lineup (which obviously will hit 2 sluggish opponent)

If they get the extra standard, did they get 5 standard max or 10 standard max (because they hit 2 sluggish instead of 1)

If they do stack, that MAYBE can explain why there are P2-P4 that can standard until double digit??


I donno, just my opinion..

However, if shisui dont receive debuff or successfully chase.. i dont know how on earth he or other P2-P4 get extra standard as like u said

Your other question, i dont know the answer & i have no opinion to share




This post was last edited by Shumihaza on 2022-07-19 22:07:43.
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