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[ Bugs ] Jirayia [Toads chant] + Minato [Edo Tensei]

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On 2021-10-06 22:24:05Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Hi.
The topic was already discussed on discord channel, but I still find it as something thats just unfair and should be changed imo.
Basically, When Jirayia [Toads chant] Uses his mystery, he blocks all mysteries that an Activate/Destroy barrier. Why is Minato [Edo Tensei]'s Mystery blocked too? I mean he do have barrier with bond skill, WHICH IS PASSIVE BARRIER, not mystery barrier. And even so, why is it blocked if Minato [Edo Tensei] doesn't have the bond mystery unlocked. Can this be fixed? Because it really doesn't make any sense.

Image of it happening




This post was last edited by JackobKK on 2021-10-06 22:24:06.
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On 2021-10-07 06:18:26Show this Author Only
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I'm going to assume your opponent's P2 has a higher initiative because I'm guessing he's a whale. If he has a higher initiative, his barrier will overrise yours.

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On 2021-10-07 06:22:10Show this Author Only
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  • Danzō On 2021-10-07 06:18:26
  • I'm going to assume your opponent's P2 has a higher initiative because I'm guessing he's a whale. If he has a higher initiative, his barrier will overrise yours.

You missed the issue. The issue is that the new Jiraiya shouldn't block edo Minato from using his mystery. The barriers are completely irrelevant because edo Minato's mystery has nothing to do with barriers (create or destroy).


*edit because i worded it poorly:

Vanilla edo Minato has nothing to do with barriers, he should not be affected by Jiraiya [Toad's Chant]




This post was last edited by VasKel on 2021-10-07 06:32:10.
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On 2021-10-07 06:59:00Show this Author Only
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is it because of the 2nd part of the jiraiya barrier.. that causing debuff immunity & extreme chaos during every round when the barrier is active, thus your minato cant do mystery

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On 2021-10-07 07:10:58Show this Author Only
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  • Shumihaza On 2021-10-07 06:59:00
  • is it because of the 2nd part of the jiraiya barrier.. that causing debuff immunity & extreme chaos during every round when the barrier is active, thus your minato cant do mystery

Edo Minato is not chaos'd / controlled in the op screenshot. It's seems like his mystery is locked, just like Kisame's or edo Hashirama's would because of Jiraiya's [Toad Chant] Mystery effect.


You can tell by the screenshot that it's round 1 and only minato has attacked with standard. Not even the enemy Naruto has attacked yet so obviously Jiraiya has not yet Chaos'd anyone.




This post was last edited by VasKel on 2021-10-07 07:15:17.
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On 2021-10-07 07:44:01Show this Author Only
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Hello, based upon the wording in Jiraiya Toad Chant's mystery, it is intentional that any character able to create or destroy barriers is unable to use their mystery's while the barrier is active, even if that barrier is not from the mystery itself. However, we have already brought up that this still blocks Minato Edo Tensei's mystery if he does not have the bond skill active for his barrier. I will ask about this again.

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