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On 2021-07-25 23:17:19Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Hello!


I just want to report a possible Bug in Group R&D (cause I am not really confident - I could be wrong about this so bear with me hehe). Arena-Advance Mission [phase2] seems not to be working.


It has been going on for 3 weeks since I first noticed it. For the first 2 weeks I failed to do*ent it so on the third I made sure to capture everything as much as possible. Maybe it has always been this way since the beginnig, but the descriptions are not adding up.


Key points as to avoid confusion: (Most all know this - but to make it clearer to all)

***R&D refreshes every Monday 0050H server time

***Arena-Mission Mastery [phase1] = figure1

description: More completed Missions will be added to the Arena on Sundays (+6 missions)

***Arena-Difficulty Mastery [phase1] = figure2

description: Allows player to reduce the difficulty of up to 2 Arena Missions without losing points

***Arena-Advance Mission Mastery [phase2] = figure3

description: All Arena Missions will automatically be completed during the weekend (I tried fri-sat-sun for "weekend" but no luck)

whole mission

*** Figure 1 & Figure 3 cannot be used in the same week, they have the same symbol.

***Arena missions can be carried over the next day. The max i think is +6 bonus missions, meaning 8 missions in total per day (correct me if I am wrong on this)

Note: Group level is not that high so our research cards are not that many.

I have always used Figure1 until I discovered that there is a good potential in Figure3. I had this idea that sometimes I can choose between doing more missions (more moons) while other times I can go for less arena battles and more auto wins (best case about 4 days - when laziness kicks-in).

So I tested it out.

1st week:

Figure 1 + others


2nd week:

Figure 2 + Figure 3 + others (this time w/ carry over +6 missions untouched from week1)

Result: No missions were automatically completed (Figure3 - not working)

Remarks: Well it did ot work, then I completed all the missions so back to zero bonus missions at the beggining of 3rd week


3rd week:

Figure 2 + Figure 3 + others (this time w/out carry over missions so by saturday my missions should not have +6)

Result:

Friday - cleared all missions

Saturday - added 6 missions (even tho we are not using Figure1)

Sunday - Still no auto completed missions.


Image1: Current Week R&D

current week mission

Image2: Friday

friday-missionI

Image3: Saturday

saturday-missions

Image4: Sunday (Today)

sunday-missions

Remarks: All other researches are working just fine except for Figure3. Just that even if I don't want +6 missions (crazy me lol) it just keep on giving me while the auto mission complete that I want is not given.


Now, I have this nature that as much as possible I want to know the game, it's whole features to maximize my options (tho I still have tons to learn i guess hahaha). Others might say I think too much, well I do as I said I am an enthusiast. Probably the main reason why I do not complain that much LOL.


All of the week 3 scenarios was captured for do*entation purposes.


I could be wrong. I could be missing something. Or it could be that it is an actual bug. Either way, kindly enlighten us of what is happening. To see it more clearly, I think one must try it atleast 1 time, if you wanna dig deep into it. haha.

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On 2021-07-27 03:51:02Show this Author Only
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Hello, Edward,
I will look into this for you,
Thanks!

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On 2021-07-27 04:13:29Show this Author Only
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Edward,
Can you try clicking the missions to reduce their difficulty? Normally this will reduce the value of those missions from 400 moon scrolls to 200. I think that this R&D may retain the full 400 moon scroll value of all 8 missions. Unfortunately, they are poorly worded. More unfortunately, you will have to wait until the weekend to try.

Please let me know,
Thanks!

P.S. I also think that since this is the upgraded version, it may also grant the full +6 missions. I will try to see if I can find anyone that actually uses this R&D this week, but chances are low. Please let me know how this weekend turns out.




This post was last edited by Tachibana Saeko on 2021-07-27 04:17:30.
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On 2021-07-27 04:27:32Show this Author Only
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[Hope I didn't ruin a possible "+6 lucky bug" for everyone because of my curiosity lol]

Anyways, Tyvm. Sorry for the trouble. Kindly update us when you guys have the answer. Might actually take a while but we can wait :)

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On 2021-07-27 04:29:20Show this Author Only
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Actually yeah I do*ented it too. I can reduce the difficulty 2 times without reducing the moons. It's perfectly working. Just the "auto complete missions" seems to have a bug. :)

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On 2021-07-27 04:30:54Show this Author Only
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The other 6 missions when reduced the difficulties also reduced the reward (200 moons each instead of 400)

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On 2021-07-27 04:39:34Show this Author Only
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finsh-2-mission

Used 3x Difficulty Reduction. These are all missions for today (Sunday). The second picture showed 200 since it was my 3rd time reducing the difficulty.

finsh-3-mission




This post was last edited by NýĠMA on 2021-07-27 04:43:07.
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On 2021-07-27 09:01:01Show this Author Only
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Well I'm wondering if maybe the way that this manifests the "free" Missions is by allowing you to turn all missions into the "win using any lineup" mission without any loss of moon scrolls. But everyone I've talked to doesn't know because no one uses this because moon scroll capping is so easy that no one bothers with this R&D.

However, you can't test it right now because it's only effective during the weekend. I do have someone that's volunteered to test it for the next weekend, but that's a two week turnaround at this point. I also have a few people that have just stated that it doesn't work, but the information is pretty out of date, sadly, because, again, no one bothers to use it.

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On 2021-07-27 10:05:52Show this Author Only
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Oh okay I understand. Yeah it seems like this kind of research is not that useful in late game gameplays afterall.


Anyways, I appreciate the effort. Thanks for those who volunteered btw. Any additional info is always of good value to the players.


Kindly update us if there is a definite answer about this query. It might take a while but I(we) understand. Thank you and have a good day!

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On 2021-07-31 20:45:57Show this Author Only
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***UPDATE


Hi @Mod Tachibana. I have followed your suggestion to reduce the difficulties of all missions (those not highlighted in green only ofc :3) during Saturday and here are the results:


IMAGE 1: INITIAL MISSION (2/8)

1


IMAGE2: REDUCED 1X (UPPER) - (2/8)

2


IMAGE3: MISSION SET 2 (4/8)

3


IMAGE4: REDUCED 1X (UPPER) - (4/8) TOTAL OF 2X MISSION DIFFICULTY REDUCTION

4


IMAGE5: MISSION SET 3 (6/8)

MOM


IMAGE6: REDUCED 2X (UPPER&LOWER) - (6/8) TOTAL OF 4X MISSION DIFFICULTY REDUCTION

MOM-FIL


IMAGE7: MISSION SET 4 (8/8)

Screenshot 2021-07-31 162449


IMAGE8: REDUCED 1X (LOWER) - (8/8) TOTAL OF 5X MISSION DIFFICULTY REDUCTION

Screenshot 2021-07-31 162608


CONCLUSION:

On Saturday

= they give +6 added missions

= missions are not auto complete

On Sunday

= missions are not auto complete


All in all, Arena-Advance Mission Mastery [phase2] is pretty much the same as Arena-Mission Mastery [phase1] in terms of functionality. Not so sure if phase1 gives missions on Sunday or Sat actually (can't remember)


To further simply things, I guess it is safe to say this one really is a bug after all. :3 Altho others are still encourage to try it out if you want.

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On 2021-07-31 20:48:51Show this Author Only
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For full transparency, I always have the pictures in full screenshot. Here is our Current Weekly Research Set-Up


Screenshot 2021-07-31 164751

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On 2021-08-07 18:07:20Show this Author Only
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OK, the person that's supposed to test this for me is supposed to do so this weekend. You should also be able to test it this weekend. Let me know if you're able to make all the missions "free" without reducing their value (all eight of them instead of just two).

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On 2021-08-08 02:35:35Show this Author Only
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Alright, we tested this this morning, and the R&D does work, the text is just poorly translated. This R&D is an upgrade from the phase 1 that only gives missions on sunday. It gives the 6 bonus missions on Saturday as well. We'll test tomorrow to see if it does the free team reduction thing as well, but right now we think it's just the bonus mission for an extra day (Saturday in addition to Sunday).

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On 2021-08-08 04:01:51Show this Author Only
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OK, we tested it and it just gives the saturday bonus, that's the whole purpose. It's just translated poorly. I'll put the report in to have the text updated to be more clear. Hopefully this helps.

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On 2021-08-08 04:10:29Show this Author Only
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  • Tachibana Saeko On 2021-08-08 02:35:35
  • Alright, we tested this this morning, and the R&D does work, the text is just poorly translated. This R&D is an upgrade from the phase 1 that only gives missions on sunday. It gives the 6 bonus missions on Saturday as well. We'll test tomorrow to see if it does the free team reduction thing as well, but right now we think it's just the bonus mission for an extra day (Saturday in addition to Sunday).

Ah okay. My last experiment was way back July 31 (Saturday) and the next day it did give me another +6 missions if I remember correctly. I initially thought the bonus missions came from the refresh of Arena Season (August 1), but now that I think about it that may be because of our R&D.


Anyway, looking forward to it. We also still are running the same R&D, we'll see tomorrow if another +6 will pop-up. Thank you for the update!

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On 2021-08-08 20:10:58Show this Author Only
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***UPDATE

Hi @Mod Tachibana,


I checked the missions today and they only gave me 2 missions (same as a normal day). There is no Auto-Complete Mission and/or additional 6 missions on Sunday.

Findings:

Arena-Advance Mission Mastery [phase2]

* Gives +6 Missions during Saturday only (No auto-complete within the week)

Arena-Mission Mastery [phase1]

* Gives +6 Missions during Sunday only (or Saturday only - can't remember. But only either of the two, not both)


Same as my conclusion before, unfortunately. Arena-Advance Mission Mastery [phase2] is pretty much the same as Arena-Mission Mastery [phase1] in terms of functionality.




This post was last edited by NýĠMA on 2021-08-08 20:22:02.
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On 2021-08-08 20:14:47Show this Author Only
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  • NýĠMA On 2021-08-08 20:10:58
  • ***UPDATE

    Hi @Mod Tachibana,


    I checked the missions today and they only gave me 2 missions (same as a normal day). There is no Auto-Complete Mission and/or additional 6 missions on Sunday.

    Findings:

    Arena-Advance Mission Mastery [phase2]

    * Gives +6 Missions during Saturday only (No auto-complete within the week)

    Arena-Mission Mastery [phase1]

    * Gives +6 Missions during Sunday only (or Saturday only - can't remember. But only either of the two, not both)


    Same as my conclusion before, unfortunately. Arena-Advance Mission Mastery [phase2] is pretty much the same as Arena-Mission Mastery [phase1] in terms of functionality.

arens


arena-2




This post was last edited by NýĠMA on 2021-08-08 20:25:23.
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  • NýĠMA On 2021-08-08 20:14:47
  • arens


    arena-2


***Update2: There was such a turn of events!!!


crazy

[ As you can see in the timeline - at 05:02 I had 2 missions then at 5:42 I was given more and to add I went online past 5 am already (all Saturday missions were cleared before this) :3 ]


I didn't do anything, at first I logged in at around 0502H LA time and I only saw 2 missions. Then all of a sudden (without refreshing the page) +6 missions pop-ed up just now. Kinda weird but I guess it works! Thank you so much.


This R&D is such a drag xD. I thought I would get "auto-wins for 4 days" but turns out to be something more useful - tho again such a drag lol.


This issue is solved! And also, I will appreciate the update regarding the wordings. Players might find it confusing, especially in the future. Thanks for the help!




This post was last edited by NýĠMA on 2021-08-08 21:01:52.
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