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On 2021-06-13 09:01:19Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Arena is a complete waste of time. Everyone just wants to do training battle. In ranked, I can queue up and be waiting for over a hour for one fight or not even get a fight at all. So things like nature training or mission event, I just retreat right as the fight start unless it is required for me to win. I even retreat even if I can win easily, just so I don't waste my time. There is no point in it. This is a shame too, ranked seems to be dead. I am stuck on the lowest rank when I can easily get off of it if people queue up for ranked.

So, my suggestion is to make it so that things like nature training, missions event, don't let them count in training battle. Make it in ranked battle only. Even for f2p players, this shouldn't matter because of whales, they destroy players in training battle as well. Does even take five seconds to get a fight in training and that's just sad.

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On 2021-06-13 12:07:49Show this Author Only
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Hello, this is quite an interesting suggestion. How would you like this to interact for players that have already reached the max rank in arena, as the matching system changes quite a bit after this point.

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On 2021-06-13 12:22:00Show this Author Only
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That's a good point. So once max rank. It would allow you to do training battle and still count. I've been max rank before. I forgot about that and how long it takes then to queue up for a fight. If not max rank, I think ranked battle should be the only way to do arena for nature training and the missions event.




This post was last edited by Kamorus on 2021-06-13 12:38:15.
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On 2021-06-13 12:33:48Show this Author Only
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well, i think they need to spаre rаnked аnd trаining: there should be only one *on "Bаttle". Аnd clickаble option - trаining mode. Let me explаin: this mode is аlwаys rаnked, but if you click on trаin - you will not lose your rаnk points. Thаt wаy plаyers could check their lineups right on metа teаms in rаnked without losing rаnked points

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On 2021-06-13 12:44:24Show this Author Only
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  • reclusesad On 2021-06-13 12:33:48
  • well, i think they need to spаre rаnked аnd trаining: there should be only one *on "Bаttle". Аnd clickаble option - trаining mode. Let me explаin: this mode is аlwаys rаnked, but if you click on trаin - you will not lose your rаnk points. Thаt wаy plаyers could check their lineups right on metа teаms in rаnked without losing rаnked points

That does sound good, but, I think people would stay in training. Training is the whole issue. Everyone is staying there. Ranked is dead. A better fix would be if they click training, it wouldn't be pvp, it would put them against AI, and it would read their line up and put them against a ninja that could put up a fight to see how they do OR they choose a line up to face to test their ninja. So, they want to test how their ninja do again meta teams. They choose the AI to have meta ninja and fight them. Even allow them to choose if the ninja have BT ninja or not. But that's even an issue because once your max rank you will take forever to queue up for a fight as well, then they stuck against AI. I guess a fix for that would be once you become max rank "free battle" unlocks. That would work like training does now.


Edit: I wouldn't mind if they allowed you to get rank points in training, and because in training, you get less of a score and take a lot longer to rank up. But its training and not ranked, I doubt that would ever happen.




This post was last edited by Kamorus on 2021-06-13 12:55:35.
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On 2021-06-13 13:04:02Show this Author Only
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And to help out the f2p from the whales. Here is a fix for that. Near the ranked and training *ons. Add 2 boxes to check. meta and non meta. If you click on meta, every ninja is able to be used. If you click on non meta. All the meta will be faded out instantly so you can't use them. And if you already have a meta on the team, fade out the non meta box so people cant cheat that and go bully the players who dont have meta ninja. That way, even people who are f2p/ and dont have meta, can reach max rank without a problem.




This post was last edited by Kamorus on 2021-06-13 13:30:10.
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On 2021-06-13 20:07:14Show this Author Only
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easiest fix... make it so it doesnt give reward nor counts toward events and everyone will migrate to ranked

more complicated fix, make it so either (something similar to what is already in but more predominant) split ninjas into tires, if you have certain ninjas you will get paired with the same tire or.. a sort of hidden MMR that actually works (not like in matsuri "you lost x battles now you will be paired with someone weaker" and gets paired with 400k higher power

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On 2021-06-14 03:33:19Show this Author Only
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  • The_X On 2021-06-13 20:07:14
  • easiest fix... make it so it doesnt give reward nor counts toward events and everyone will migrate to ranked

    more complicated fix, make it so either (something similar to what is already in but more predominant) split ninjas into tires, if you have certain ninjas you will get paired with the same tire or.. a sort of hidden MMR that actually works (not like in matsuri "you lost x battles now you will be paired with someone weaker" and gets paired with 400k higher power

The easy fix yeah, that's what Im pretty much going with in my suggestion on the first comment.




This post was last edited by Kamorus on 2021-06-14 03:36:46.
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On 2021-06-14 04:25:34Show this Author Only
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Well, the issue with defining a certain team/usage as meta is that its used to define the most effective tactic, as that is included in the acronym. Would you say the most effective tactic right now is Obito Ten Tails Jinchuriki? Then those using Naruto would be unaffected? If we also include Naruto in the blocked list, then what about the next character? Would that character also be included? It seems like you want Zenith settings, which is already its own event, with its own set of rules, specifically for this purpose.

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On 2021-06-14 05:12:04Show this Author Only
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True, though with zentih you have a set time to make a team while in normal arena you can take all the time you need and isn't always around. I'm talking about the current meta going on like obito and naruto. Block those 2 out if it goes that way. then when the next meta eventually comes, block that meta. and unlock the previous. Naruto f2p players can easily get, Obito counters him, but only people with big wallets can get. so block him too, Seems the power character that gets countered is by a huge pay wall, so always block the 2, the f2p obtainable meta ninja and the pay wall counter. Always block the current ones, then unlock them when new ones come out. That's if this idea is chosen. Hopefully the first idea is chosen if any.




This post was last edited by Kamorus on 2021-06-14 05:34:10.
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On 2021-06-14 13:30:36Show this Author Only
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Or if you want to do arena, just do ranked. If you can't find matches with all the other people who want to "just fight" in arena, then you must be in a very small minority (so why change arena just for a vocal few). If you can find matches , then still no reason to change arena. Maybe come on here and announce a time each night or on weekends when you want to have your arena fight each other fun time.

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On 2021-06-14 13:41:20Show this Author Only
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  • Picklejuicy On 2021-06-14 13:30:36
  • Or if you want to do arena, just do ranked. If you can't find matches with all the other people who want to "just fight" in arena, then you must be in a very small minority (so why change arena just for a vocal few). If you can find matches , then still no reason to change arena. Maybe come on here and announce a time each night or on weekends when you want to have your arena fight each other fun time.

It's not only for fun. I would like to get the medal for honor overview for more points. Get more rewards for ranking up. If it was just for fun, then training wouldn't be an issue. What your saying, just cause some servers have it their ranked so lively, thats awesome, and some might have it dead, well *s to be you. Everyone who plays this game should be able to do it, not some, or most.... everyone. There needs to be a fix where everyone comes out on top, not just some or most people. I even came up with an idea about the check boxes to get rid of meta to help out the f2p players. I think that's a good idea, but bad at the same time seeing that would split arena up even more.




This post was last edited by Kamorus on 2021-06-14 14:03:44.
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On 2021-06-14 14:03:57Show this Author Only
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there is no point to waste time on arena thats why people dont play it , 9/10 ppl abusing july zodiac sign lineups like kurenai rin hashi new year ibiki etc etc. would be nice to be ranked battle only but lose 0 points on defeat and gain 1 on win.




This post was last edited by infamous jak on 2021-06-14 14:05:13.
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On 2021-06-14 14:11:42Show this Author Only
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  • infamous jak On 2021-06-14 14:03:57
  • there is no point to waste time on arena thats why people dont play it , 9/10 ppl abusing july zodiac sign lineups like kurenai rin hashi new year ibiki etc etc. would be nice to be ranked battle only but lose 0 points on defeat and gain 1 on win.

Yeah, the point system does really help, but not gaining points and doing training isn't better. They are going to be stuck on the lowest rank forever only doing training. So no point only doing training. Just do rank and treat it as training if your just going to ignore you rank anyway.

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On 2021-06-15 22:37:53Show this Author Only
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Arena/Fair fights should not reward anything at all regardless of the condition...not even activity points. Keep it around for people who want to pretend fight only.




This post was last edited by brensonlee on 2021-06-15 22:38:18.
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