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On 2021-02-02 13:54:57Show this Author OnlyAscending Order
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Edo tobi needs a buff, hes so useless, everyone uses kurenai and hes always chaosed, his mystery only hits one person and does 1.8k dmg, and with all immune ninjas you can't even proc the tag, I'm not salty, I don't even use him but I would absolutely love too! Such a badass ninja, one of the coolest in the show, he deserves better. HIs breakthrough is not enough to make him viable.


If anyone disagrees feel free to tell me how to implement him in a team. please.

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On 2021-02-05 03:49:18Show this Author Only
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  • Spedward On 2021-02-02 21:16:09
  • He is pretty op, his mystery if it hits *ready tagged unit, it gets cooled down to one round. He has an assist barrier, you need Edo Hashirama which is probably not possible. Just find his assist links that are 100%-120%. You should also try to get him skillbroken. His skillbroken chase ignores immunity. You can p1 him, and stack him with Asuma WB, Iruka, any unit that buffs Konoha units or any units that buff water units. If you're already about chaos, just use Kurenai summer as well. You fight fire with fire, she can reflect a debuff, u c*so use fire main mirror return if you're worried.

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On 2021-02-04 21:21:52Show this Author Only
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  • gianu12g On 2021-02-03 22:19:34
  • In actual Fair fight and arena he's useless, of course he's going to be insane if you have way more power.

it was the same power, was in finale

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On 2021-02-04 07:02:00Show this Author Only
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i can't complain about his dodge, I don't have the last sb on chase Y+1 to comment, but noticed that the Y chase does drastically a lot of less damage which is probably fine for 20 combo. His base stats maybe a bit off. The thing is value - he is the same price as kakuzu but he is not viable compared to him.

His attack is quite superrior but given he is a p3 or p4 support it really doesn't help.

Now compared to new meta who can work both in support and p1 for arena - Kakuzu creation - this one is immune and very likely to do a powerful chase only by his attack is 300cps per frag but doesn't need a bunch of vials to brake.

The way to buff him will be - immunity or mystery attacks a line of opponents or barrier cannot be removed for 3 rounds.


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On 2021-02-03 22:25:23Show this Author Only
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  • PuhleaseKillMe On 2021-02-03 20:53:57
  • Unfortunately he is utterly worthless, his barrier may have been nice once upon a time but with kisame everywhere thats out the window. And even with breaks he is still one of the most useless characters in the entire game, despite being the inventor of basically every single ninjutsu throughout the entirety of the anime.

    His break dodge says "60%" but he dodges drastically less than suigetsu with his "30% and madara gnw with his claimed "20%"

    We had his breaks forever, except his most useful one, that has now finally been added and it does not work. Despite what the skill description says and despite the tag icon appearing over immune characters, the effects of tag are not actually applied to the characters. A mod in the "support" section said that irremovable tag and regular tag are different effects, which means irremovable tag does squat, puts an icon over the characters head but doesnt count towards characters whose mysteries target tag and the they dont take increased damage. What the mod said is a lie to cover up that they have ruined the best skill of tobi.

    If you need any proof of that, ask someone with hidan akatsuki inception. His mystery targets "tag" and that includes immune characters that have been hit with his chase applying "irremovable tag". That right there is proof in-game that tobi's tag doesnt actually do anything



I saw your post on his on the other thread and you're absolutely right, how does irremovable tag differ from regular tag ?!? I swear they don't want him to be viable.

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On 2021-02-03 22:20:21Show this Author Only
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  • Spedward On 2021-02-02 21:16:09
  • He is pretty op, his mystery if it hits *ready tagged unit, it gets cooled down to one round. He has an assist barrier, you need Edo Hashirama which is probably not possible. Just find his assist links that are 100%-120%. You should also try to get him skillbroken. His skillbroken chase ignores immunity. You can p1 him, and stack him with Asuma WB, Iruka, any unit that buffs Konoha units or any units that buff water units. If you're already about chaos, just use Kurenai summer as well. You fight fire with fire, she can reflect a debuff, u c*so use fire main mirror return if you're worried.

Doesn't seem op at all, do you have him?

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On 2021-02-03 22:19:34Show this Author Only
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  • The_X On 2021-02-02 21:11:01
  • don't think his mystery is the prime focus tho, i remember someone in spacetime almost oneshooting (2 attacks) enemy team with his standards pre-bt, but i do understand the problem with things like kurenai

    bottom line yes he should be buffed, but doubt we see one

In actual Fair fight and arena he's useless, of course he's going to be insane if you have way more power.

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On 2021-02-03 22:18:18Show this Author Only
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  • PuhleaseKillMe On 2021-02-03 20:53:57
  • Unfortunately he is utterly worthless, his barrier may have been nice once upon a time but with kisame everywhere thats out the window. And even with breaks he is still one of the most useless characters in the entire game, despite being the inventor of basically every single ninjutsu throughout the entirety of the anime.

    His break dodge says "60%" but he dodges drastically less than suigetsu with his "30% and madara gnw with his claimed "20%"

    We had his breaks forever, except his most useful one, that has now finally been added and it does not work. Despite what the skill description says and despite the tag icon appearing over immune characters, the effects of tag are not actually applied to the characters. A mod in the "support" section said that irremovable tag and regular tag are different effects, which means irremovable tag does squat, puts an icon over the characters head but doesnt count towards characters whose mysteries target tag and the they dont take increased damage. What the mod said is a lie to cover up that they have ruined the best skill of tobi.

    If you need any proof of that, ask someone with hidan akatsuki inception. His mystery targets "tag" and that includes immune characters that have been hit with his chase applying "irremovable tag". That right there is proof in-game that tobi's tag doesnt actually do anything



I agree 100%, I don't have him skill broken and even if I did I can't ever see him one shotting the enemy team even if he gets every buff. His chase does no damage and the worst part, I've used him with Hashirama so he double chases and he still does the same damage after his 20% tai buff gets applied. I swear they butchered his character, his bt should've had an option for a water style jutsu like his regular with interruption or suppress super armor and his chase should do more damage not -10%....don't even get me started on gnw 20% dodge ....

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Unfortunately he is utterly worthless, his barrier may have been nice once upon a time but with kisame everywhere thats out the window. And even with breaks he is still one of the most useless characters in the entire game, despite being the inventor of basically every single ninjutsu throughout the entirety of the anime.

His break dodge says "60%" but he dodges drastically less than suigetsu with his "30% and madara gnw with his claimed "20%"

We had his breaks forever, except his most useful one, that has now finally been added and it does not work. Despite what the skill description says and despite the tag icon appearing over immune characters, the effects of tag are not actually applied to the characters. A mod in the "support" section said that irremovable tag and regular tag are different effects, which means irremovable tag does squat, puts an icon over the characters head but doesnt count towards characters whose mysteries target tag and the they dont take increased damage. What the mod said is a lie to cover up that they have ruined the best skill of tobi.

If you need any proof of that, ask someone with hidan akatsuki inception. His mystery targets "tag" and that includes immune characters that have been hit with his chase applying "irremovable tag". That right there is proof in-game that tobi's tag doesnt actually do anything






This post was last edited by PuhleaseKillMe on 2021-02-03 20:57:17.
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On 2021-02-02 21:16:09Show this Author Only
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He is pretty op, his mystery if it hits *ready tagged unit, it gets cooled down to one round. He has an assist barrier, you need Edo Hashirama which is probably not possible. Just find his assist links that are 100%-120%. You should also try to get him skillbroken. His skillbroken chase ignores immunity. You can p1 him, and stack him with Asuma WB, Iruka, any unit that buffs Konoha units or any units that buff water units. If you're already about chaos, just use Kurenai summer as well. You fight fire with fire, she can reflect a debuff, u c*so use fire main mirror return if you're worried.




This post was last edited by Spedward on 2021-02-02 21:18:21.
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On 2021-02-02 21:11:01Show this Author Only
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don't think his mystery is the prime focus tho, i remember someone in spacetime almost oneshooting (2 attacks) enemy team with his standards pre-bt, but i do understand the problem with things like kurenai

bottom line yes he should be buffed, but doubt we see one

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