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On 2021-01-01 03:57:46Show this Author Only
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The herd calls anyone who disagrees with sheeps a plant/gl/paid employee. Such is the law of the jungle.

Although giving Mizuki for the 3rd time while there are other older, forgotten ninjas who could be utilised ridiculous.

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On 2021-01-01 04:07:11Show this Author Only
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  • Kharan On 2021-01-01 03:57:46
  • The herd calls anyone who disagrees with sheeps a plant/gl/paid employee. Such is the law of the jungle.

    Although giving Mizuki for the 3rd time while there are other older, forgotten ninjas who could be utilised ridiculous.

What is funny is that I make valid points about them expecting too much from Oasis and they freak out. It is not my fault you cannot figure it out. They repeat the "I deserve to complain when Oasis doesn't live up to my expectations" when I point out their arguments has a flaw.


Yes other regions have better stuff compared to our server but talking about it hasn't changed anything for us for years. I want the shop in east konaha, the unreleased daily events, the unreleased skillbreaks and the skill book update (they won't update this sadly), and many other things. However, they have shown they will add stuff that only makes them money or stop updates when whales complain they will stop spending.




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On 2021-01-01 04:38:40Show this Author Only
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  • Danzō On 2021-01-01 04:07:11
  • What is funny is that I make valid points about them expecting too much from Oasis and they freak out. It is not my fault you cannot figure it out. They repeat the "I deserve to complain when Oasis doesn't live up to my expectations" when I point out their arguments has a flaw.


    Yes other regions have better stuff compared to our server but talking about it hasn't changed anything for us for years. I want the shop in east konaha, the unreleased daily events, the unreleased skillbreaks and the skill book update (they won't update this sadly), and many other things. However, they have shown they will add stuff that only makes them money or stop updates when whales complain they will stop spending.

I know that, you know that. They almost lynched me when I pointed it out few months before.

Frankly I don't know why you even bother at this point. Let them live in their lalaland until the game closes and with their "freedom of speech and right to complain" that does nothing, resolves nothing and is utterly useless.

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On 2021-01-01 04:42:39Show this Author Only
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personal plea, can we please have the nightmare summon ever again? He was released and then removed, been on 78/80 frags for almost the entirety of 2020, its frags are not in lucky boards, no redeemable events and for some reason are not even in the summon optional packs.

Thank you

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On 2021-01-01 05:04:34Show this Author Only
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  • Kharan On 2021-01-01 04:38:40
  • I know that, you know that. They almost lynched me when I pointed it out few months before.

    Frankly I don't know why you even bother at this point. Let them live in their lalaland until the game closes and with their "freedom of speech and right to complain" that does nothing, resolves nothing and is utterly useless.

I bother because I don't want the forum to be filled with unintelligent people and their lack of logic. These people will eventually leave since they cannot figure out how to play the game without Oasis magically doing a 360.

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  • Danzō On 2021-01-01 05:04:34
  • I bother because I don't want the forum to be filled with unintelligent people and their lack of logic. These people will eventually leave since they cannot figure out how to play the game without Oasis magically doing a 360.

Fair enough.

I doubt they'll quit since it's the same people with same posts week after week.

But fair enough.

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On 2021-01-01 06:39:57Show this Author Only
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  • Kharan On 2021-01-01 06:34:47
  • Fair enough.

    I doubt they'll quit since it's the same people with same posts week after week.

    But fair enough.

There's a few who were like them but they disappeared. Give it more time when they realize Oasis won't live up to their expectations.

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On 2021-01-01 08:12:36Show this Author Only
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  • pizzas On 2021-01-01 01:08:48
  • I agree with Danzo over here. Everyone is just asking for free ninjas at this point, it's ridiculos. I've played since regular Tobi has been the best ninja in the game and everyone should be glad they even got someone like Summer Kurenai for free. Be careful what you wish for, if you get a ninja for free, everyone will get them for free and the meta can get really boring real quick. So stop asking for free ninjas all the time. Be happy with what you got, save up your resources for months like every other person does and aim for the best possible Fuku rebate you can get so that one day you can become strong and have good ninjas. Also instead asking for free ninjas every week can we please instead ask for more skilltrials each week, we're still missing so many like Baki, Fuguki, Fu (only got skillbreaks but no trials), Kakashi [Make-Out Paradise], GNW Sakura and the list goes on.

Man stating real issues here.


The game should receive more Breakthrough/Skill trial updates for ninjas that aren't super expensive, GNW Sakura, Regular Asuma, Suit Sasuke, Baki, Kidomaru, Kurotsuchi, Han, and a pletora of others that would make the game much more interesting for free players since all of them are easily avaible FOR FREE, and are really interesting and useful all on their own.


Don't let me get started with functions like tsunade NPC need for an update and many functions that need to be implemented...


But instead what we got here? people complaining about having more free ninjas in events, not like we didnt already got 4-5 good ninjas in a single month for free, that's not enough apparently for some here, even if something like that was a dream of a happening just 1 year ago.




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On 2021-01-02 18:09:26Show this Author Only
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  • Nomiko On 2021-01-01 08:12:36
  • Man stating real issues here.


    The game should receive more Breakthrough/Skill trial updates for ninjas that aren't super expensive, GNW Sakura, Regular Asuma, Suit Sasuke, Baki, Kidomaru, Kurotsuchi, Han, and a pletora of others that would make the game much more interesting for free players since all of them are easily avaible FOR FREE, and are really interesting and useful all on their own.


    Don't let me get started with functions like tsunade NPC need for an update and many functions that need to be implemented...


    But instead what we got here? people complaining about having more free ninjas in events, not like we didnt already got 4-5 good ninjas in a single month for free, that's not enough apparently for some here, even if something like that was a dream of a happening just 1 year ago.

Events part and game content update I agree with you 100% - for example where are the next main characters skills update Oasis hello ?


I don't agree with fodder chars skill trials being needed and that's where I can kind of agree with f2p playerbase complaining. I understand that getting 5 ninjas for free is still amazing (back in a day we couldn't even hope for it) but Im sure that all of us would prefer to get that 1 good meta ninja Taka Suigetsu (like Germany) instead of those non meta units. (that's also why people are salty, if other versions had Hashirama it wouldn't feel like our version getting worst deal)

Nobody is using those garbage characters with skill trials like baki etc so no, most of the people literally don't care if they are added or not - look at the "hype" f2p ninja like choji or ukon sakon, outside of meme's (well and choji in nature training) nobody cares about those chars so that's just a waste of time from Oasis.

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On 2021-01-03 01:24:43Show this Author Only
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  • Kiriya. On 2021-01-02 18:09:26
  • Events part and game content update I agree with you 100% - for example where are the next main characters skills update Oasis hello ?


    I don't agree with fodder chars skill trials being needed and that's where I can kind of agree with f2p playerbase complaining. I understand that getting 5 ninjas for free is still amazing (back in a day we couldn't even hope for it) but Im sure that all of us would prefer to get that 1 good meta ninja Taka Suigetsu (like Germany) instead of those non meta units. (that's also why people are salty, if other versions had Hashirama it wouldn't feel like our version getting worst deal)

    Nobody is using those garbage characters with skill trials like baki etc so no, most of the people literally don't care if they are added or not - look at the "hype" f2p ninja like choji or ukon sakon, outside of meme's (well and choji in nature training) nobody cares about those chars so that's just a waste of time from Oasis.

Good meta ninjas are supposed to be obtained by putting effort into the game by doing rebates, or just saving for them in general. It's ok if you want one or two good ninjas for free, but you want the best ones? then you have to put some more effort to get them. If they give amazingly good ninjas (specially some like suigetsui taka that are borderline broken) to everyone that will just bring a harder enviroment for everyone to play with on pvp, and it will be even worse for the free players that enter the game after it happens, because they will literally have 0 chance against the ones that actually got him, or kurenai, or hashirama, completely for free, which will very likely be everywhere from that point on.


I am actually glad they didn't do such move, i am piecing him slowly, as it has to be. Don't be asking for things before thinking on both the pros and cons of implementing such things. We all want things that can benefit us now, but also you have to think what will benefit us in the future and what is harmful for the future as well. Just think about it.


PD: Have you even tried their BT's before making such judgement i wonder? because many of them that are already added are actually decent to use, whether they are meta or not is other thing , technically only 5-10% or less of the ninjas in the game are actually usable in the meta anyways, but if we aren't allowed to even have them and try them then it's impossible to judge anything.




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On 2021-01-03 03:34:27Show this Author Only
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  • Nomiko On 2021-01-03 01:24:43
  • Good meta ninjas are supposed to be obtained by putting effort into the game by doing rebates, or just saving for them in general. It's ok if you want one or two good ninjas for free, but you want the best ones? then you have to put some more effort to get them. If they give amazingly good ninjas (specially some like suigetsui taka that are borderline broken) to everyone that will just bring a harder enviroment for everyone to play with on pvp, and it will be even worse for the free players that enter the game after it happens, because they will literally have 0 chance against the ones that actually got him, or kurenai, or hashirama, completely for free, which will very likely be everywhere from that point on.


    I am actually glad they didn't do such move, i am piecing him slowly, as it has to be. Don't be asking for things before thinking on both the pros and cons of implementing such things. We all want things that can benefit us now, but also you have to think what will benefit us in the future and what is harmful for the future as well. Just think about it.


    PD: Have you even tried their BT's before making such judgement i wonder? because many of them that are already added are actually decent to use, whether they are meta or not is other thing , technically only 5-10% or less of the ninjas in the game are actually usable in the meta anyways, but if we aren't allowed to even have them and try them then it's impossible to judge anything.

That's Right, Nomiko San And Especially That Final Statement (That You've Said Above) Is Very True Though

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On 2021-01-03 19:06:51Show this Author Only
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  • PuhleaseKillMe On 2020-12-31 22:52:05
  • This is exactly how people know you are a plant "putting in work"? dude, its a video game, its supposed to be a hobby in your free time, not a chore where it is mandatory.

    That doesnt even make sense, firstly you are lumping people together based on nothing but a blind assumption that works to your benefit since to my knowledge no one here has stated that they are f2p and dont have time to redeem frags from other events.


    Yes, they do have a reason to complain, you might not agree with it, and you are paid to be dismissive, but in a collection based game, customers have every right to complain about frag availability if they feel the need to.


    And your last statement again, makes no sense, I admitted not all complaints are equal, but not everyone here is asking for free madara ten tails. almost every single character event, such as this new client that has occured over 4 years, the english language version has got a character measurably worse than other localizations, that actual fact right there, completely destroys your last words, they dont have to give "good rewards" all the time, but by that same merit there is no reason why they have chosen to always give us worse rewards than every other country. Also, lets not beat around the bush, we arent all plants, we dont all get paid to sit on this game day in day out, theres a real world calling, you being dismissive towards people who cant sink as much time into this game as employees like you might make you feel like you are in some way smarter than other people, but it doesnt detract from their right or their motivations to complain about some aspects of an MMO that is so dead you basically have to treat it like a single player game in which you have multiple accounts.


    I am not going to say anymore because ive been here long enough to see the games you play and people calling you out on stuff, there is a reason this forum is all but dead despite the game having over 1600 servers, but despite you trying to sound informed and above other people, not a single thing you have said is an actual argument against peoples right to complain nor does it take away the validity from their points

I mean if u playing a rpg games sure it's a hobby but if you wanted to be compentative, you should invest more.. Either with time or money. That just how it works these day, may it be a fps games or moba games. you either spent your time or your money. Otherwise, don't waste your self on it. Given your statement as "its supposed to be a hobby in your free time" for you defends i would suggest that your * with RPG games rather then anything online. SInce you clearly aren't the type that would want to spend both your time and money not to mentioned your effort to grinding or saving cupons to get better deals

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On 2021-01-04 08:39:51Show this Author Only
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just to point few things out... from all the games similar to NO i'v played and all the communities i'v been part of... NO is one of the most suppressed community when it comes to asking for better, how come other communities can change the games in better and we can't? i tell you how... heavy moderation + people that always downplay the problems... no offense but danzo is one of the biggest... he might say something good now n then to not look that bad but he is the first to downplay no matter how bad it is...

the state of the game is.... deplorable... its a meme but a true meme, we are in 7.0 but we missing half of the game from 3.0 onwards... they ONLY push ninjas closer to closer to source (CN) but non of the features... pure example there is a system there that every week rewards you coupons based on a ranking on an pve damage event... it have some time now since release, where is it? not to mention OLD stuff such as breaktroughs, tsunade full npc, updated main abilities etc etc

as for a direct reply to your point nomiko about "Good meta ninjas are supposed to be obtained by putting effort into the game by doing rebates, or just saving for them in general"

yes OBTAINED by putting effort into the game not available at 3k euro/dollars

before someone says "bUt ThEy ArE a CoMpAnY tEy nEeD tO mAkE mOnEy" you my friend don't know how economics works...


there are a very high chance that a mod or someone will delete this post... PROVING MY first point...

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  • The_X On 2021-01-04 08:39:51
  • just to point few things out... from all the games similar to NO i'v played and all the communities i'v been part of... NO is one of the most suppressed community when it comes to asking for better, how come other communities can change the games in better and we can't? i tell you how... heavy moderation + people that always downplay the problems... no offense but danzo is one of the biggest... he might say something good now n then to not look that bad but he is the first to downplay no matter how bad it is...

    the state of the game is.... deplorable... its a meme but a true meme, we are in 7.0 but we missing half of the game from 3.0 onwards... they ONLY push ninjas closer to closer to source (CN) but non of the features... pure example there is a system there that every week rewards you coupons based on a ranking on an pve damage event... it have some time now since release, where is it? not to mention OLD stuff such as breaktroughs, tsunade full npc, updated main abilities etc etc

    as for a direct reply to your point nomiko about "Good meta ninjas are supposed to be obtained by putting effort into the game by doing rebates, or just saving for them in general"

    yes OBTAINED by putting effort into the game not available at 3k euro/dollars

    before someone says "bUt ThEy ArE a CoMpAnY tEy nEeD tO mAkE mOnEy" you my friend don't know how economics works...


    there are a very high chance that a mod or someone will delete this post... PROVING MY first point...

Explain how I downplay how the game is when I point out that in the past 4 years, Oasis has not considered any reasonable change to the game. Instead they will focus anything that makes them the most money in a short period of time targeting whales. Apparently, to sources I read, they already have everything from China caught up in terms of content. Of course, you know the reason why they are picking and choosing which to release. Legit I want the unreleased content but with Oasis thinking of their profit won't allow it. Due to this, I am not expecting drastic change but unfortunately, people think that equals silencing their complaints, which doesn't make sense. Every time I bring up this point, no one replies, which speaks volumes to the type of players who act like this. If you think that the moment you realize change is not coming is making you stop complaining and stop playing the game, that's your problem. I play with players who stopped caring as much and feel that if the game ends, it doesn't matter that much. When the flash issue came about, I didn't care as much and if the game truly ended, at least I can become productive somewhere else. We only play out of the routine we built playing the game. The game is a lost cause whether you want to agree or not. There are better games out there which I am focusing as well.


As for the 3k euro/dollars comment, no one was talking about the pay wall. We all know games that include rewards behind a paywall is out of the question for f2ps besides luck events. I agree that rewards in games should not cost an average person' rent in a city. However, if whales exist, gaming companies will milk them. That's how monetarization was created in games when they tested out the limits of who would buy a bunch of pixels ranging from skins to characters. We are talking about characters/items/rewards etc. available to all players via farmable in-game currency. For f2ps, when you play games where farmable in-game currency is available and there are events where you spend a certain amount just to get it, it is obvious you should save if you actually care about playing the game. If you just want to play this game whenever you want, it means you don't care to get the nice things then since companies could care less about players who don't spend time in their product. They don't give out give out the best stuff so that you keep up. They give out at most the second best, just so you can stay. There's a reason why they have events to pull players back to get them to play again.





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Oasis answers to the CCP regarding NOs IP.

This is the bottom line.

Many of us understand this and try to explain, but there are some who refuse to listen.

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On 2021-01-05 08:59:09Show this Author Only
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  • Danzō On 2021-01-04 10:14:56
  • Explain how I downplay how the game is when I point out that in the past 4 years, Oasis has not considered any reasonable change to the game. Instead they will focus anything that makes them the most money in a short period of time targeting whales. Apparently, to sources I read, they already have everything from China caught up in terms of content. Of course, you know the reason why they are picking and choosing which to release. Legit I want the unreleased content but with Oasis thinking of their profit won't allow it. Due to this, I am not expecting drastic change but unfortunately, people think that equals silencing their complaints, which doesn't make sense. Every time I bring up this point, no one replies, which speaks volumes to the type of players who act like this. If you think that the moment you realize change is not coming is making you stop complaining and stop playing the game, that's your problem. I play with players who stopped caring as much and feel that if the game ends, it doesn't matter that much. When the flash issue came about, I didn't care as much and if the game truly ended, at least I can become productive somewhere else. We only play out of the routine we built playing the game. The game is a lost cause whether you want to agree or not. There are better games out there which I am focusing as well.


    As for the 3k euro/dollars comment, no one was talking about the pay wall. We all know games that include rewards behind a paywall is out of the question for f2ps besides luck events. I agree that rewards in games should not cost an average person' rent in a city. However, if whales exist, gaming companies will milk them. That's how monetarization was created in games when they tested out the limits of who would buy a bunch of pixels ranging from skins to characters. We are talking about characters/items/rewards etc. available to all players via farmable in-game currency. For f2ps, when you play games where farmable in-game currency is available and there are events where you spend a certain amount just to get it, it is obvious you should save if you actually care about playing the game. If you just want to play this game whenever you want, it means you don't care to get the nice things then since companies could care less about players who don't spend time in their product. They don't give out give out the best stuff so that you keep up. They give out at most the second best, just so you can stay. There's a reason why they have events to pull players back to get them to play again.


the first part of your reply is part of what im talking about everything you said is resumed into "shut up stop complaining cuz nothing happened, trust me i'v complained in the past"

as for the 2nd part... there are a lot of things that are paywalled or rigged pure example madara founder was 150-200k to 4 star him, ay 4th (even if not meta) is expensive as well, not to mention things like taka karin and tsunade seal, don't even make me start with the rates on events... lucky star, almost no one gets the ninja (remember few years ago it was actually obtainable) or how magically on the other wheel when was hidan pre-akatsuki it was dropping left n right but no other ninja on the same even...

anyways... hope you understand my point

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  • brensonlee On 2021-01-05 01:37:46
  • Oasis answers to the CCP regarding NOs IP.

    This is the bottom line.

    Many of us understand this and try to explain, but there are some who refuse to listen.

the fk are you on? if you try to be smartass and talk about CCP they already have your everything if you ever played things like lol,valorant etc or used epic store, let me put it this way... if you own a smartphone google already knows everything about you and possibly china too... that's the reality of this day n age

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  • The_X On 2021-01-05 08:59:09
  • the first part of your reply is part of what im talking about everything you said is resumed into "shut up stop complaining cuz nothing happened, trust me i'v complained in the past"

    as for the 2nd part... there are a lot of things that are paywalled or rigged pure example madara founder was 150-200k to 4 star him, ay 4th (even if not meta) is expensive as well, not to mention things like taka karin and tsunade seal, don't even make me start with the rates on events... lucky star, almost no one gets the ninja (remember few years ago it was actually obtainable) or how magically on the other wheel when was hidan pre-akatsuki it was dropping left n right but no other ninja on the same even...

    anyways... hope you understand my point

"If you think that the moment you realize change is not coming is making you stop complaining and stop playing the game, that's your problem." Read that as well.


I'm not telling anyone to stop with the suggestions to the game. People should be able to figure out on their own what someone/company/whatever is willing to do based on past actions. They can decide what they want to from there. When dealing with Oasis with this game, some people stopped caring, some chose to continue and some retaliated via either *s or exposing them. Since very few have info to retaliate as all of the exposing were done by people connected to Oasis in the past, people only have two options. However, since I notice some people cannot figure it out, they become toxic and there's no place for that behaviour regardless how right you are.


If you are going to at least continue with the complaints, don't feel frustrated since you're getting worked up for something the other party cares less about. Nothing productive happens besides you feeling frustrated. It's a lose situation for yourself. I bought up this point in the past and someone replied with "dOn't aCt lIkE YoU CaRe aBoUt pEoPlE'S MeNtAl hEaLtH". All you're doing is deflecting I said and don't want to figure out what you should do next to see progress in how you deal with this game.

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On 2021-01-06 04:28:17Show this Author Only
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  • The_X On 2021-01-05 09:01:12
  • the fk are you on? if you try to be smartass and talk about CCP they already have your everything if you ever played things like lol,valorant etc or used epic store, let me put it this way... if you own a smartphone google already knows everything about you and possibly china too... that's the reality of this day n age

You proved my point, thanks.

Once people realize the CCP calls the shots, expectations will adjust accordingly.

Until then...the tears will continue to flow.


BTW, I said Oasis answers to the CCP. Nothing I said was smartass in anyway.

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On 2021-01-06 10:28:37Show this Author Only
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to be fair, for some of you it may matter, esp for those who are forced to pick a side.

but all i can say (I know I represent myself, CCP or not) XD

and it is exactly this stand that I made, that I am still here in the forums, oasis or not XD

if I will stand up against Trump's US in the past, why should I stand down when vs the CCP anyways ?

neither both interests if not aligned with mine (should get my ez vote),

but that ought to be clear (already) XD

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