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On 2020-10-14 13:14:30Show this Author OnlyAscending Order
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I'm sorry but she's ridiculous, how can a ninja 4v1 your team and out heal your damage while also 8k crit round 3. Her only counter is herself and I also don't think basing a team just to counter her (fire main) makes an sense.

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On 2020-11-08 00:03:31Show this Author Only
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Now that i have gotten her, she is good but not unbeatable, my current linup is a bit weir but it is

x ay(third raikage) x

x Naruto sage mode) x

Water main Kushina x

Talents:3,2,3,3,2

Summoning: Lightning tiger

Level 79 power 47901

She is vulnerable against lightning teams




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On 2020-10-24 10:53:52Show this Author Only
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yes, kushina need a nerf

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On 2020-10-21 21:36:02Show this Author Only
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  • Axel21 On 2020-10-15 03:26:59
  • u know who needs nerf.... Tsunade reserve seal, not kushina, besides she has been here for a while

Now, this is facts, i haven't played against her but looking at yt videos where she single handily saves the persons a**

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On 2020-10-18 16:00:58Show this Author Only
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  • BattleCrier On 2020-10-16 07:22:22
  • any CD increase ninja is basically a counter to Tsunade if timed well...
    before you start attacking me on this....
    I dont have her, yet I can beat teams of my power which have her...
    Either control her with someone like Kurenai or Ibiki... or control her mystery with Kimimaro, Suigetsu, Nagato etc.

    Do not focus her directly, increase her cooldown, then kill team on round 3 or kill her.
    Easy to say for sure... but doable in arenas or at same power lvl.

your last sentence is more correct than your first

please remember that Tsunade applies a Mystery Lockdown effect on herself at round 1, just like in Shisui Susano'o mystery, but her own mystery cooldown applied on herself is locked at 0, not 2 like Shisui

so even mystery CD increase cant affect her at round 1

what you need is chakra cost increase like nagato, kisame

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On 2020-10-18 05:30:10Show this Author Only
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I have Kushina 5* almost full BT (only her healing passive is on +1) and yet EG Kakuzu BT usualy beats me easily. Kushina has her downsides. She can't trigger her own chase. She must be exposed to lower her long mystery cooldown (and, unlike Kazekage Gaara, she does not heal per every hit recieved). And her standard is single target only, which means she will attack her own teammate if under Chaos.

In comparison EG Kakuzu BT has multiple target standard (which means Chaos on him is just a different version of Immobile), 0 chakra no cooldown unmissable interrupt mystery (which pretty much guarantee he denies one mystery per round of his choice) and provides extra standard + heal + debuff cleanse to 2 Akatsuki units (which likely includes himself as I yet to see team with him and more than one additional Akatsuki ninja). His only weakness would be lack of debuff immunity, but that he can get from others and even without it Chaos and Immobile are the only debuffs that hurt him, everything else he will just remove before first action.

Also, if someone just got her from Myoboku then there is a hell of a wait before getting her to 4*, she is gone from events except Ramen.

I can only agree that Summer Kurenai is not the best counter, but not because of a ways to remove that Immobile (those can be dealt with other ways), but because her mystery is bugged and ninjas with natural debuff immunity tend to magically free themselves from it at the start of round 2. Still, Summer Kurenai is good, lost count how many times her Chaos causing passive screwed up my opponents.

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On 2020-10-17 02:33:25Show this Author Only
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P2W in LA servers do not use Kushina in 1on1 fights.

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On 2020-10-17 01:30:35Show this Author Only
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I mean everyone who says kushina isnt op needs to take everything into consideration... As guy in the previous page said there are only few ninjas that can counter kushina and few of those are highly pricy ninjas. You cant really counter kushina with kurenai or ibiki if u control fail her most of the times, also she wouldnt be used even as p2w players if she wasnt so op lol. Most p2w players still use kushina even tho 10 tails madara BT came out, so yeah no one can say shes not op. I versed kushinas that had 50k power less than me and they still almost won even tho i have fully BT Sasuke Rinne

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On 2020-10-16 07:28:13Show this Author Only
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  • unkown12390 On 2020-10-16 03:06:02
  • Minato edo bp bee gaara kaze

GNW Madara with Suigetsu are amazing counter to Kushina aswell :)

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On 2020-10-16 07:27:32Show this Author Only
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  • Melio975 On 2020-10-15 21:20:47
  • I confirmed while using sasuke rinne max bt in nine tails the damage always scales every round and it keeps on increasing that prove it stacks.

    Not once I saw low numbers then a previous round.

    Also with like 170k bp I beat kushina with 200k+ bp sometimes even more so yea sasuke can outscale kushina in scaling and defeat her.

    I generally use y+1 chase which can decrease 10% crit helps a lot against crazy kushina.

just hit her with +2 while decreasing her defense.
at same power lvl (500k club in my case), Sasuke hits nin/crit Kushina for about 20-25k with mystery each round after R4.
She cant out heal it, especially when she uses +2 mystery instead of Y one :)

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On 2020-10-16 07:22:22Show this Author Only
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  • Axel21 On 2020-10-15 03:26:59
  • u know who needs nerf.... Tsunade reserve seal, not kushina, besides she has been here for a while

any CD increase ninja is basically a counter to Tsunade if timed well...
before you start attacking me on this....
I dont have her, yet I can beat teams of my power which have her...
Either control her with someone like Kurenai or Ibiki... or control her mystery with Kimimaro, Suigetsu, Nagato etc.

Do not focus her directly, increase her cooldown, then kill team on round 3 or kill her.
Easy to say for sure... but doable in arenas or at same power lvl.

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On 2020-10-16 03:06:02Show this Author Only
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Minato edo bp bee gaara kaze




This post was last edited by unkown12390 on 2020-10-16 03:06:30.
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On 2020-10-16 00:08:45Show this Author Only
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  • Melio975 On 2020-10-15 21:20:47
  • I confirmed while using sasuke rinne max bt in nine tails the damage always scales every round and it keeps on increasing that prove it stacks.

    Not once I saw low numbers then a previous round.

    Also with like 170k bp I beat kushina with 200k+ bp sometimes even more so yea sasuke can outscale kushina in scaling and defeat her.

    I generally use y+1 chase which can decrease 10% crit helps a lot against crazy kushina.

After seeing the mediocre Kush builds recently in our strategy forum, I have no doubt you beat a Kush lineup with more BP. Congrats!

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On 2020-10-15 21:20:47Show this Author Only
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  • JDoe On 2020-10-15 00:17:53
  • "his crazy scaling"?

    I am not getting involved in this whole thread, there is already too much to read, correct me if im wrong but wasn't it confirmed that sasuke's scaling does not stack ? he drains chakra at the end of the round and the buff that provides only lasts for the next 1 round?


    Kushi's scaling is consecutive, each round her scaling builds on top of the previous rounds power up, sasuke does not meaning whether she has attack or defense skill her scaling would still dwarf sasukes. I think i remember reading that?

I confirmed while using sasuke rinne max bt in nine tails the damage always scales every round and it keeps on increasing that prove it stacks.

Not once I saw low numbers then a previous round.

Also with like 170k bp I beat kushina with 200k+ bp sometimes even more so yea sasuke can outscale kushina in scaling and defeat her.

I generally use y+1 chase which can decrease 10% crit helps a lot against crazy kushina.




This post was last edited by Melio975 on 2020-10-15 21:26:07.
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On 2020-10-15 20:26:28Show this Author Only
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they gave nagato away, and easy to obtain, im sure that auto attack of his (st) would like to have a word

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On 2020-10-15 17:31:25Show this Author Only
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Just saying, you don't NEED P1 Bee, you just need his chase to land.

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On 2020-10-15 08:49:34Show this Author Only
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LOL, nah mate. Kushina aint getting a nerf. Git gud.


But really, she has easily obtainable counters. As someone who plays this game, like actually plays this game, you should definitely have at least ONE of the ninjas that counters her. And if all else fails, use Fire Main with the fire prison seal mystery.

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On 2020-10-15 04:07:32Show this Author Only
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  • Axel21 On 2020-10-15 03:26:59
  • u know who needs nerf.... Tsunade reserve seal, not kushina, besides she has been here for a while

you know what needs nerf? gatekeeping healers... in CN you can buy tsunade immortal for i think 12k-15k cp, tsunade kage is in treasure, other healers can be bought too.. here only paywall

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On 2020-10-15 03:53:28Show this Author Only
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Nah Tsuna don't need nerf, she was suppose to last against pain for 2 round at least,

IT would be disappointing if Tsuna got 1 shot, entire teams die off in 1 round battle would be boring.

Edit: Actually now that I compare, I think Hokage Tsuna needs bt/st she is far far too weak.




This post was last edited by Tombo Lock down on 2020-10-15 04:15:28.
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On 2020-10-15 03:26:59Show this Author Only
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u know who needs nerf.... Tsunade reserve seal, not kushina, besides she has been here for a while

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