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We want BP and not Lvl ba<x>sed PvP events!

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On 2020-01-12 04:32:32Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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It's time to change Oasis. We need to change to PvP events based on BP matchmaking and not lvl since a lot of whales are freezing their lvl to beat up weaker players.




This post was last edited by DemoNLogiC on 2020-01-12 04:32:32.
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On 2020-01-12 04:39:37Show this Author Only
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I agree

This will change one of the biggest issue the game faces, which is players getting matched unfairly.

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On 2020-01-12 06:47:39Show this Author Only
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Agreed. It would fix A LOT of the problems about the game being "p2w" and not "f2p friendly".

I bet many players would come back to the game with this, better f2p events (as some have been recently) and some adverti*t for the game

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On 2020-01-12 08:07:48Show this Author Only
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agreed, some p2w players like to level freeze and increase their power dramatically, then get weak opponents in pvp because of low level. no fair oasis


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On 2020-01-12 13:57:08Show this Author Only
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On 2020-01-12 16:42:41Show this Author Only
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I agree with all of you (as do 95% of the players I know), but Oasis doesn't see this as a problem and they will delete this thread soon, like they did the previous one we talked about this, becasue they don't want new players to see the truth about the game as it gets crossserver. They know about this and they are not willing to do anything about it, since the freezers have been doing this for so long and gained so much power, they can't punish them now or change anything. And working on a new matching algorithm would mean they would have to do some actual work on the game. :)))

Everyone that says just do the easy F2P events for sun and moon scrolls is either a developer or a longtime freezer because PvP is the point of this game and I want to test my skills with players from other servers in a fair match, not being matched to a player with 5-times more power than me in my first Matsuri match, just becasue he's been playing on server months older as me and freezing all that time, just to abuse the character level based matching system, not real battle power. But as Oasis pointed out to me, the matching system works normally and the game is suppose to be challenging, but I don't see a challenge for a player with 200k BP being matched to me with 60k BP. And for me, that is mission impossible to win, since it usually means getting one-shotted.

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On 2020-01-12 16:59:10Show this Author Only
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Every matching system must be changed to be based on actual BP and people can continue freezing as long as they like, they would just start getting challenged and this game would be turned back into the game of SKILLS, not the game of MONEY. I don't mind spenders, I also spend in the game to get some good ninjas I want, just don't go crazy on it and get every single rare it comes out. And I also think there are events where big spenders can show of their advantages and it's called Zenith and Space Time (and Decisive Bonds), but other events should change their matching system.

Matsuri can give you a match with someone that is 3-4 times stronger as you, but that is after you win 3-4 matches in a row, but before that happens they should fix this and always give you a match that is near your BP and after every win/loss the difference threshold in BP should gradually increase/decrease.

The same goes for Sage. Put together people with difference in BP about plus/minus 15-20%, don't put in the same field people with 40k BP and 220k BP. The big players get 4-5 winning streaks before I can even finish a single match. :))) But Iif you do put them together, make them fight eachother - if they get to 5-game winning streak, they can only attack players with a 5-games or more winning streak. And when you get to 10, they can only attack players with 10-game or more winning streaks. And now we see players with 2-3 winning streaks at most and 1 players in each field with 20+ winning streaks becasue they are just hunting small fish and oneshot them... Or they should prevent players from attacking players when the difference in power is too big, like they do in Training Grounds...

I know many players have ideas about this, but I think Oasis doesn't want to hear them, since this is going for a long time already and that is the reason why servers are dying so fast after they start participating in cross server events, players just leave becasue they can't win in impossible matchups and PvP starts becoming unfair .

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On 2020-01-13 04:15:31Show this Author Only
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This topic just need to get a lot of attention so Oasis will have to do something.

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On 2020-01-13 04:24:43Show this Author Only
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If you don't like it your free to leave the game.. Of course p2w will always have advantage in this game.. You can't do anything even they will stay or lvl up.. They wantee to be stronge also that's why they recharge.. And for thoose f2p you should be the 1 who will accept the fact and enjoy the game cuz you only playing for free unlike to thoose p2w they pay in game to be the strongest.. If you want a fair game go play Dota, pubg, Mol something like that game.. Ahaha

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On 2020-01-13 04:28:09Show this Author Only
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  • SimCha On 2020-01-12 16:59:10
  • Every matching system must be changed to be based on actual BP and people can continue freezing as long as they like, they would just start getting challenged and this game would be turned back into the game of SKILLS, not the game of MONEY. I don't mind spenders, I also spend in the game to get some good ninjas I want, just don't go crazy on it and get every single rare it comes out. And I also think there are events where big spenders can show of their advantages and it's called Zenith and Space Time (and Decisive Bonds), but other events should change their matching system.

    Matsuri can give you a match with someone that is 3-4 times stronger as you, but that is after you win 3-4 matches in a row, but before that happens they should fix this and always give you a match that is near your BP and after every win/loss the difference threshold in BP should gradually increase/decrease.

    The same goes for Sage. Put together people with difference in BP about plus/minus 15-20%, don't put in the same field people with 40k BP and 220k BP. The big players get 4-5 winning streaks before I can even finish a single match. :))) But Iif you do put them together, make them fight eachother - if they get to 5-game winning streak, they can only attack players with a 5-games or more winning streak. And when you get to 10, they can only attack players with 10-game or more winning streaks. And now we see players with 2-3 winning streaks at most and 1 players in each field with 20+ winning streaks becasue they are just hunting small fish and oneshot them... Or they should prevent players from attacking players when the difference in power is too big, like they do in Training Grounds...

    I know many players have ideas about this, but I think Oasis doesn't want to hear them, since this is going for a long time already and that is the reason why servers are dying so fast after they start participating in cross server events, players just leave becasue they can't win in impossible matchups and PvP starts becoming unfair .

Zenith is an advantage for thoose p2w? I think your wrong.. I'm a f2p but I can still win 8 points in zenith or atless 6.. Zenith is what we called fair game.. It's easy to reach six path in arena if you just know how to adjust and use ninja.

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On 2020-01-13 04:35:31Show this Author Only
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  • hatemore On 2020-01-13 04:24:43
  • If you don't like it your free to leave the game.. Of course p2w will always have advantage in this game.. You can't do anything even they will stay or lvl up.. They wantee to be stronge also that's why they recharge.. And for thoose f2p you should be the 1 who will accept the fact and enjoy the game cuz you only playing for free unlike to thoose p2w they pay in game to be the strongest.. If you want a fair game go play Dota, pubg, Mol something like that game.. Ahaha

You're either a freezer player or a developer that don't want to work. Nice argument. Those p2w guys c*so battle each other and see who is the biggest p2w. That way, they would spend even more money since they're "alfa males" in online p2w games. You ever thinked of that?

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On 2020-01-13 04:36:16Show this Author Only
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  • hatemore On 2020-01-13 04:28:09
  • Zenith is an advantage for thoose p2w? I think your wrong.. I'm a f2p but I can still win 8 points in zenith or atless 6.. Zenith is what we called fair game.. It's easy to reach six path in arena if you just know how to adjust and use ninja.

Zenith is only advantage for p2w in ranked thing. You need to spend ingots to join to get points.

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On 2020-01-13 07:36:26Show this Author Only
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  • DemoNLogiC On 2020-01-13 04:36:16
  • Zenith is only advantage for p2w in ranked thing. You need to spend ingots to join to get points.

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On 2020-01-13 09:30:08Show this Author Only
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no need to be getting pissed, he's right u can spend 10 ingots to be able to enter zenith, I've seen this in different occasions.

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On 2020-01-13 11:11:41Show this Author Only
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Not going to happen ever(too complicated and will drive-out whales)...this game is made unfair in some events to give motivation to recharge. Stop wasting energy and time on something that is not gonna work and spend that time making $ so you can recharge :P




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On 2020-01-13 14:19:09Show this Author Only
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Hehehehe, hatemore, you (and players like you) are the only player whose opinion is valued by Oasis and they base their excuses that everything is working normal. I'm not saying that p2w players can't get advantages (as I mentioned, I spend some in the game also, but don't go crazy on it), but I think it's normal from players to ask being matched with players with similar BP at least in the first few matches of Matsuri (or after a loss) or be put in Sage together with players of similar power. And when you become a star player of a previous battlefield, you get pushed into higher level Sage next time. Don't just put random people together, because it's easier to do it like that (last night I fought people from 50k all the way to 334k). I would love to see the logic behind their matching system, I'm confident I could find a better way to match people together. What bothers me, is that Oasis is always telling people, that they do not approve stalling a character level and it's against their rules, but they are not doing anything about it and they are just looking away from the obvious problem. And that is why everyone starts leaving after cross server events start and we are left with 5-10 semi-active people on a server and then active players have to wait 2-3 months before they merge servers and can eventually have a GNW again. Why are players always leaving after cross server starts? Is it their fault that Oasis is too lazy to update their matching system and is claiming that this is a game where you can prove your skills, but in truth, this is a game where you can do anything and get a free pass only when you are spending more than others? I'm not saying I want to become the strongest in the game and win every match (this is just a game for me, but I want them to make it better), I just want them to do something about the bad matching system, that gives beginners impossible odds to win anything against people that are abusing the matching system for months.

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On 2020-01-13 21:25:47Show this Author Only
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The game will never be matched with players of similar power, it removes the reason to spend otherwise.

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On 2020-01-14 00:21:12Show this Author Only
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  • Rom Reckt On 2020-01-13 21:25:47
  • The game will never be matched with players of similar power, it removes the reason to spend otherwise.

I somehow understand your point, but I think the spenders will still be spending to get those rare ninjas faster and get the advantage over only F2P players (the mtaching doesn't need to be exact precise, just more player friendly, not hitting you with a player 3-4 times your power right away). But in the long term I think casual spenders who recharge every couple of months would stay in the game longer and would also have the desire to spend more often to get that rare ninja that would make them become even more competitive when being matched with players with similar BP and that rare ninja would be the difference in beating them even if they lack in power a little. But I know Oasis does not care about their players/community being loyal and happy with the game, they just care about the money and that is why I believe they don't do anything about the level freezers and matching system.




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On 2020-01-14 02:37:49Show this Author Only
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  • SimCha On 2020-01-14 00:21:12
  • I somehow understand your point, but I think the spenders will still be spending to get those rare ninjas faster and get the advantage over only F2P players (the mtaching doesn't need to be exact precise, just more player friendly, not hitting you with a player 3-4 times your power right away). But in the long term I think casual spenders who recharge every couple of months would stay in the game longer and would also have the desire to spend more often to get that rare ninja that would make them become even more competitive when being matched with players with similar BP and that rare ninja would be the difference in beating them even if they lack in power a little. But I know Oasis does not care about their players/community being loyal and happy with the game, they just care about the money and that is why I believe they don't do anything about the level freezers and matching system.

Back in 2.0, 10k difference was HUGE, especially regarding Mei/Mabui/Tenten teams.

I remember I think after Kushina was in the Naruto Raman event, I had went into Matsuri with 111k or so power, went against a AGK team who was 160k or 170k, I managed to win. (Not sure how).

Which brings me to my point, where do you draw the line? Everyone is asking for this change, but they're not offering how and in detail.

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On 2020-01-14 02:39:23Show this Author Only
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