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I see a lot of people split between 40 fragment ninjas and 80 fragment ninjas.


In my honest opinion, I think getting 40 AGK fragments is a very good deal for fireworks that usually gives less desirable ninjas. Also 80 fragments of AGK is still somewhat expensive (around 13k compared to shisui's 80 fragments for 6k-7k price).


However, if they start giving ninjas out like anbu itachi or anbu yamato or other cheaper ninjas, or even useless holiday ninjas like Christmas karin/sakura then its not ok to give 40 fragments and they should instead give 80 fragments.


My wish is that this fireworks doesn't create a precedent that all fireworks should give 40 from now on, but rather give 80 fragments of ninjas when they aren't valuable and give 40 when they are valuable. Switching interchangeably rather th*ways giving 80 or always giving 40.


Anyways, getting 40 more AGK is still possible in a different fireworks event (wink wink nudge nudge)so who knows what will happen.


I wish you all a happy holidays and hopefully the events for Dec 25 or even New Years are well thought out and created.


Cheers


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I'm not completely against the 40 frag standard if it were useful ninja like Germany got (AGK has her uses not a bad ninja). They got 40 frags of Five Kage Summit Madara (think he is like 15k-17k), which most people would gladly take. I just think this time around we should've got 80 frags of AGK considering her age and price. She is like 11k-12k now and if you split that in half it's 5.5k-6k. We got 80 frags Shisui which he is hovering around 10k-12k (maybe get him cheaper in certain events). He's pretty much the same price as AGK yet we only get 40 of her frags, which doesn't make sense to me. I'll gladly take it, but I do hope to see them add useful ninja around the price range of 14k-17k.


I wouldn't mind 40 frags of these ninja:

Susanoo Kakashi

Edo Hiruzen

Edo Itachi

Edo Tobirama

EGF Kakuzu

Eight Tails Killer Bee

Five Kage Summit Madara

Ibiki

Rinne Sasuke

Probably some others I am forgetting, but I would be ok with those and probably some others. I just wish the there was more communication between the devs and the playerbase. We honestly don't know when a certain event will change. Just don't understand why a poll/notice (add it in the events post maybe?) or something wasn't held saying "Hey we are considering changing the fireworks event to 40 fragments of more useful ninja then the ones we previously have been giving out" My only issue so far is AGK is around the same price as Shisui yet we only get half of her frags, which doesn't make much sense. If this was the only way to keep the fireworks event from being scrapped then I understand the move to getting less frags, but like I said lack of communication. I do think this will be the new standard, lets just hope they see our feedback from this.

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On 2019-12-14 22:11:06Show this Author Only
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  • Koncept On 2019-12-14 16:10:26
  • I'm not completely against the 40 frag standard if it were useful ninja like Germany got (AGK has her uses not a bad ninja). They got 40 frags of Five Kage Summit Madara (think he is like 15k-17k), which most people would gladly take. I just think this time around we should've got 80 frags of AGK considering her age and price. She is like 11k-12k now and if you split that in half it's 5.5k-6k. We got 80 frags Shisui which he is hovering around 10k-12k (maybe get him cheaper in certain events). He's pretty much the same price as AGK yet we only get 40 of her frags, which doesn't make sense to me. I'll gladly take it, but I do hope to see them add useful ninja around the price range of 14k-17k.


    I wouldn't mind 40 frags of these ninja:

    Susanoo Kakashi

    Edo Hiruzen

    Edo Itachi

    Edo Tobirama

    EGF Kakuzu

    Eight Tails Killer Bee

    Five Kage Summit Madara

    Ibiki

    Rinne Sasuke

    Probably some others I am forgetting, but I would be ok with those and probably some others. I just wish the there was more communication between the devs and the playerbase. We honestly don't know when a certain event will change. Just don't understand why a poll/notice (add it in the events post maybe?) or something wasn't held saying "Hey we are considering changing the fireworks event to 40 fragments of more useful ninja then the ones we previously have been giving out" My only issue so far is AGK is around the same price as Shisui yet we only get half of her frags, which doesn't make much sense. If this was the only way to keep the fireworks event from being scrapped then I understand the move to getting less frags, but like I said lack of communication. I do think this will be the new standard, lets just hope they see our feedback from this.

First of all neither am i here to disrespect with you nor do i want to start a abusive argument. All i will do i share some facts so read carefully.

"She is like 11k-12k now and if you split that in half it's 5.5k-6k. We got 80 frags Shisui which he is hovering around 10k-12k (maybe get him cheaper in certain events). He's pretty much the same price as AGK yet we only get 40 of her frags"

If you say she is 10-12 k please show some prove, stop creating misunderstanding among new players with your self imagined prices or the prices you want a ninja to be at. In her last event she was 13.5k but since we did not had shisui in that event cycle it cant be a fair comparison. So here are prices of event cycle 10/17. That is the only latest event where i could find shisui https://forum-narutoen.oasgames.com/page/show-post-43655-1.html

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with konon costing over 15k and shisui 10k. And another fact to note is that since shisui came out with*80 there are high chance that he will devalue and will appear less in events, while konon will still maintain her price if not increase.

Still half frags of konon cost 7.5k while we got 10k worth last month so its definitely a decrease. But those 10k was for quite less part of community because shisui was way more common between players compared to konon. Before gaara he was also a good team mate for naruto 6 paths. But less than half of players even in older servers had konon. So more players got some ninja worth. But i feel like you already had had thats why you are against her or you wanted 80 for easy 4*

Coming to your ninja list all. You have only written ninjas you donot have because most of them donot make any sense. Rinne sasuke? very less players like him and that character is useless for the most part. Edo hiruzen only helpful for training ground or sage in case you are among top whales of space time other than that hes useful if you have all other edo kages so you can get that minato barrier(hiruzen do have a good buff but still hes not a popular support, very rarely used for buff only). Edo tobi pretty much same story as edo hiruzen. Edo itachi is a meta support and hes amazing can help be helpful for most players. Killer bee even without bt hes not too bad better than shisui and konon atleast. Idiki also a good one. Kakashi susanoo? nooo hes not a good one not a good p1 not even a great support since there are many other necessary, he never was a meta and not even now, donot know why but hes pretty fragile. Madara 5 kage did use to be amongst meta support, hes still a good one but not meta any more. Kakuzu*40 only good for players who have kakuzu bt and they need to bt last 1 or 2 skills, useless for new players or players who donot have him because they still need 140 more frags to 4* him then spend more to bt him other wise hes useless.




This post was last edited by pyx40 on 2019-12-14 22:15:53.
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  • pyx40 On 2019-12-14 22:11:06
  • First of all neither am i here to disrespect with you nor do i want to start a abusive argument. All i will do i share some facts so read carefully.

    "She is like 11k-12k now and if you split that in half it's 5.5k-6k. We got 80 frags Shisui which he is hovering around 10k-12k (maybe get him cheaper in certain events). He's pretty much the same price as AGK yet we only get 40 of her frags"

    If you say she is 10-12 k please show some prove, stop creating misunderstanding among new players with your self imagined prices or the prices you want a ninja to be at. In her last event she was 13.5k but since we did not had shisui in that event cycle it cant be a fair comparison. So here are prices of event cycle 10/17. That is the only latest event where i could find shisui https://forum-narutoen.oasgames.com/page/show-post-43655-1.html

    mjkhkhkjhl

    with konon costing over 15k and shisui 10k. And another fact to note is that since shisui came out with*80 there are high chance that he will devalue and will appear less in events, while konon will still maintain her price if not increase.

    Still half frags of konon cost 7.5k while we got 10k worth last month so its definitely a decrease. But those 10k was for quite less part of community because shisui was way more common between players compared to konon. Before gaara he was also a good team mate for naruto 6 paths. But less than half of players even in older servers had konon. So more players got some ninja worth. But i feel like you already had had thats why you are against her or you wanted 80 for easy 4*

    Coming to your ninja list all. You have only written ninjas you donot have because most of them donot make any sense. Rinne sasuke? very less players like him and that character is useless for the most part. Edo hiruzen only helpful for training ground or sage in case you are among top whales of space time other than that hes useful if you have all other edo kages so you can get that minato barrier(hiruzen do have a good buff but still hes not a popular support, very rarely used for buff only). Edo tobi pretty much same story as edo hiruzen. Edo itachi is a meta support and hes amazing can help be helpful for most players. Killer bee even without bt hes not too bad better than shisui and konon atleast. Idiki also a good one. Kakashi susanoo? nooo hes not a good one not a good p1 not even a great support since there are many other necessary, he never was a meta and not even now, donot know why but hes pretty fragile. Madara 5 kage did use to be amongst meta support, hes still a good one but not meta any more. Kakuzu*40 only good for players who have kakuzu bt and they need to bt last 1 or 2 skills, useless for new players or players who donot have him because they still need 140 more frags to 4* him then spend more to bt him other wise hes useless.

AGK went down in prices last week, in which she averaged 10k-12k. The event you posted was 2 months ago and prices can change dramatically in that time frame. Also the ninja I listed were just some ninja that costed more than 12k and have some use (only Itachi and EGK are meta. No other reason besides that. You are free to make a list of viable ninja you would like to see in this event. Those are just ninja I wouldn't mind seeing. I wouldn't expect to see any meta ninja from this event, so I only added EGF and Edo Itachi because of they are on the cheaper side. This event was never intended for higher bp/meta players. This event is made to help weaker/newer players out quickly develop more and more ninja over time. We will more than likely see some of these ninja though if Oasis goes by pricing since Germany just recently got 40 frags of Five Kage Summit Madara. Also I added Rinne Sasuke because he just recently got ST in CN. You shouldn't expect to get half a meta ninja for free from any event in this game. As I said I just listed off some ninja that costed around the same price as AGK and Five Kage Summit Madara. I also put EGF on there because many players are working toward him and I would think they would gladly take 40 frags to save them coupons.

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This post was last edited by Koncept on 2019-12-15 03:28:43.
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  • Koncept On 2019-12-14 16:10:26
  • I'm not completely against the 40 frag standard if it were useful ninja like Germany got (AGK has her uses not a bad ninja). They got 40 frags of Five Kage Summit Madara (think he is like 15k-17k), which most people would gladly take. I just think this time around we should've got 80 frags of AGK considering her age and price. She is like 11k-12k now and if you split that in half it's 5.5k-6k. We got 80 frags Shisui which he is hovering around 10k-12k (maybe get him cheaper in certain events). He's pretty much the same price as AGK yet we only get 40 of her frags, which doesn't make sense to me. I'll gladly take it, but I do hope to see them add useful ninja around the price range of 14k-17k.


    I wouldn't mind 40 frags of these ninja:

    Susanoo Kakashi

    Edo Hiruzen

    Edo Itachi

    Edo Tobirama

    EGF Kakuzu

    Eight Tails Killer Bee

    Five Kage Summit Madara

    Ibiki

    Rinne Sasuke

    Probably some others I am forgetting, but I would be ok with those and probably some others. I just wish the there was more communication between the devs and the playerbase. We honestly don't know when a certain event will change. Just don't understand why a poll/notice (add it in the events post maybe?) or something wasn't held saying "Hey we are considering changing the fireworks event to 40 fragments of more useful ninja then the ones we previously have been giving out" My only issue so far is AGK is around the same price as Shisui yet we only get half of her frags, which doesn't make much sense. If this was the only way to keep the fireworks event from being scrapped then I understand the move to getting less frags, but like I said lack of communication. I do think this will be the new standard, lets just hope they see our feedback from this.

I agree with you about giving out some better ninjas. But I disagree on your argument that shisui and konan are the same price. Konan averages around 12-13k in most events. Shisui is a 7k ninja (with 20% free discount vouches and the konoha sale event he was around 7k).


Konan is just much better than shisui so 80 of her isn't equal to 80 of shisui. I would like to see fragments of some older ninjas though like maybe masked man, third hokage, second hokage etc..

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People shouldn't compare Shisui to Konan AGK at all, they perform different roles. Shisui is more support for Fire/Wind teams. Meanwhile Konan is all about damage.

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  • YugaAburama289 On 2019-12-15 13:47:36
  • People shouldn't compare Shisui to Konan AGK at all, they perform different roles. Shisui is more support for Fire/Wind teams. Meanwhile Konan is all about damage.

Not anymore. we have a lot of ninjutsu immunity, debuffs immunity ninjas, latest weaken debuff to counter blitz, also Edo Itachi

I don't know about your bracket, but mine, they do have a lot of S to God tier ninjas to play against.

She doesn't do as much damage as you might think.

"But she buffs Kakuzu." yeahhhhh,, but I'd rather pick Konan Taisho or normal Konan for him tbh.

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  • Broken Screen On 2019-12-16 06:01:52
  • Not anymore. we have a lot of ninjutsu immunity, debuffs immunity ninjas, latest weaken debuff to counter blitz, also Edo Itachi

    I don't know about your bracket, but mine, they do have a lot of S to God tier ninjas to play against.

    She doesn't do as much damage as you might think.

    "But she buffs Kakuzu." yeahhhhh,, but I'd rather pick Konan Taisho or normal Konan for him tbh.

If its about konon only as support i will say konon Taisho>konon angel>konon normal

because konon normals buff is removable. Like you said you space time has S to God tier ninjas to play against so edo itachi is usually part of every lineup. And since every one even at low control stat does tries his luck on kakuzu with itachi mystery, which atleast removes all buffs

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