In cn naruto ronin was added after chojuro sb/st and in a moment when overstacking move 1 meant nothing because was very normal to have a 180k move 4 with 35k injury while your move 1 was a 230k with 38k.

The only reason why ronin naruto works against kakuzu is because you are actually able to kill your enemy move 3 or 4 during the first two rounds and so you stack and deliver another attack that maybe kills something else while also damaging again kakuzu.

If this doesn't happen because your enemy move 3 and 4 are not made of paper tissue then naruto gets obliterated.

Let me be clearer.

F2p people in cn to counter kakuzu meta used to run wind main with clones and blind features (that actually fully counter him) by running a ninja that has super armor suppression because this team works also against shark bomb users (something here none uses and this should ring a bell).

Ronin naruto was implemented to counter the most used counter of kakuzu, a counter that didn't actually relies mostly on ninjutsu elemental features (that's what chojuro do) because in cn is more common to own higher elemental resistances, because they have kage ti hard mode.

That's why in cn you have mega carnivals where you can buy him for 2400 ingots, because exists a free replacement and because the situation of the average player is not our one.

What you have here? A 170k move 1 with 30k injury and at most a 100k move 3/4 with 18k injury? Of course naruto ronin works.

But Jib, there was no personal info .... I removed it and only left numbers :(

This just means I cant even explain things with the proper proof of screen shots and also just wasting my time even writing in forums.

guess what BunnY, your Edo Madara can be yours for 30K ingot recharge this week. Welcome to Oasis online...

I used to despise Oasis for paywalling ronin and when I got him I kinda understand why they did that, of course the money is involved but it's not the only reason. Ronin Naruto is meant for the position 1 meta and with him you can even face people who have over a 100k more power than you. Of course, it's not a guaranteed win but the simple fact that you can hold your ground against Kakuzu online for 3 rounds even though the opponent has way more power than you is beyond OP.

Obviously now that I got him I'll be mad if other people could get him for 20k coupons but not if Oasis gives me a good compensation. Pretending Oasis will ever make him a 20k ninja it's up to you if you want to live in a meta where the other positions are only useful for buff and mirror.

recently i stopped seeing it as naruto online thou.. if you look at it as just another online casino its not that bad..

No!!! Why Bun?

And not only that.

Every single time a free alternative existed in cn version they made everything that was in their power to make it useless.

Example: we never experienced the tsunade sannin war meta because her skill breaks were added way after her counters (shisui/edo deidara/jinpachi were implemented in game), we never experienced kcm naruto one for the same reason (shisui + anbu itachi added 1 year before to prevent it) or shizuka that in the shape we got had no way to counter kakuzu eg sb/st meta (overall with the missing breaks/trials of mifune).

Every single time something was potentially achievable with patience they made it unreasonably unreachable (ay 4th/sasuke susano'o/edo deidara/kakuzu trials at 4*) and they also sold ninjas that were supposed to be free or close to be free to unreasonable amounts of money (the last example is ronin naruto that in some events in cn costs 2400 ingots simply because there's a cheaper version of him we will never get that almost do the same things: chojuro breaks/trials).

Oasis cared exclusively to whales but not to what actually whales wanted but to what they would have gladly paid for.

Shyuko It's sad that your posts was deleted... It's even impossible to know what you have said

Hi! By using the forum, you agree to the Terms of Service as well as the Forum Rules which can be found here. Moderators are here to moderate the forum. Normally if there is swearing on the post, it is deleted. To avoid deleting the post, I edited the post instead. Sorry for the inconvenience and I do hope you can understand why it was edited.

You are very welcome. Make no mistake, adding Madara was in no way to make up for anything. Their pattern of adding ninjas has ramped up, and the only explanation/motivation behind it is simple: Money. That is my opinion.

Why do I come to this conclusion? Because every single time, when players ask for content (as in, game mechanics) they drag their feet for it. Take Tsunade NPC for a big example. She should have been introduced in this form we currently have now when Skill books were introduced (not to be confused with trials that deal with potions). Only now do they introduce her in such a basic form so that MOST of their community (as in older players and servers) could never ever EVER benefit from it. Why is that? Because they wanted to sell ninja frags. They wanted players to spend resources (coupons and ingots). Can't do that when the NPC could give them a cheaper alternative.

New Ninjas? Well almost every single relatively USEFUL ninja is almost always introduced behind a paywall......because the name in itself explains why.....they want you to PAY to climb the wall. Look no further than the 130k Ultra rebate. It comes down to simple money making. What players want is just a footnote in their main goal, which is to make money. This company hasn't learned in THREE YEARS that they would make 3x more money catering to players needs and just being caring than to just outright abuse and neglect them.

You can shear a sheep many times, but skin them only once. <-- It's been three years and they haven't learned this. They either never will or don't care to. It doesn't matter which, the end result is still the same.

Cheers Bunny, I wish you the best!

For Jib: Seriously? Did you really think it was necessary to make a thing out of a word that can be aired on all TV nation wide? Talk about throwing your weight around just to make a spash. Sheesh.

Shyuko Thank you for your time and big message which really explains well this whole thing! I know it's such a sad truth but deep in my heart I love this game and have hopes for it as well. Even if it hurts me I still just want to enjoy at least those small moments of it. But then again, because of some mistakes, game loses their players interests and they don't play anymore or only after some time start just new server and try all over again. Which just creates a routine of excitement and boredom. It's very sad to lose people you used to play with on daily basis, because they can become like second family... or like one of my friends say: Naruto Online is like dating simulator too haha

But anyway, I don't know if we, such a simple players can do make some changes.... Though I kinda believe, when they introduced epic refines week earlier and everyone got mad, this was a reason for them introduce something more exciting such as Madara [Edo Tensei - release] and give back our glows on tool so we would slowly flow in and accept what's given.

This.

Right.

Here.

There has always been the speculation that increased odds for people who haven't logged in for awhile hitting the jackpots.....or low powered/leveled accounts, etc etc. Again, its speculation, but people have posted repeatedly of alts from other servers seemingly getting "lucky" vs others. To be fair, I have been on the fortunate side of things myself.....some examples:

Only did a $10 recharge for the monthly card. Got it on the 5th spin. Didn't need it nor expected it.

This event is just bonkers and in my opinion....the odds are probably heavily slanted against you in getting it. There is a reason as to why they don't release the odds (even though China passed a law REQUIRING THEM TO) of the jackpots. Why? Most likely the case is if someone on their team screws up. (or forgets to even set the odds to even hit it). The less information you have/know, the better it is for the company. Almost always. OG has a history of not following through or being supportive to the players when they make a mistake. It's hard to find them or look it up, but its there if you look.

If they tell you they can't do, fix, adjust, or correct something bad, it is a falsehood, straightaway. We all saw first hand when they "adjusted" the essentially free sakura/sasuke packs that LA and NY got shafted on. Even after being told it was on purpose and it was fine. Last second, no maint, they hotfixed it and took it away.....and capped it to just 5....while everyone else got 100...for like 1600 coupons.

Another example is when they made a mistake on the ino flowers (or sakura version) and itachi susano was first prize. The mistake: The event gave out the first prize (80 frags) right away if you placed first. (instead of at the end). If someone else took first from you, you immediately still got 80 frags while the person who got bumped got second place prizes too. If he went back to first place, got another 80 frags.....etc etc. You get the idea.

Immediately, they shut the game down, revert EVERYONE and took away the frags, recruits, etc.....in a matter of minutes. Then fixed it.

I don't need to remind you of the Epic Refines fiasco either....but that wasn't their first time doing that either. They did the same thing when they asked if people wanted cross server Sage World Battles. Players overwhelming said no. They did it anyways. This was an official survey too. Even headed it with "Voice of the community" and all that jazz. I imagine they expected (or thought?) the players wanted it so they acted as if the players had a choice in the matter....they thought it was a win win for them. They were wrong. Players never had the ability to sway what would change. It was going to happen regardless, but they tried to get those extra brownie points anyways.

There are MANY examples, and each time the company always did what was in THEIR best interest over the player's. Every. Single. Time.

I tell you this because this is who you are choosing to give your time to. Your money to. If you can live with it, I wish you all the luck and grace in the world. I really do. I still play, but deep down, I really am looking for other things to soak up my leisure time over this. This game IS GOOD....its just the people making the decisions are horrible. I really don't understand why they operate the way they do.

Whelp, I'll leave it at that. You do you, but just be more mindful of who you give your time and resources to.

Cheers!

Jib Edit: I have edited the post to remove the inappropriate language. Thank you for your understanding!

Like in every event :D After some playing time i knew game ,,logic" :D ... more active players have not bigger chance to get lucky reward :D ... like in our server .. many guys get many ninjas almost for free from lucky wheel, etc... its just ,,Luck" of this game .. they just wanna hold non active players in game and maybe keep them to recharge way :)

I wanna cry because of this ........