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On 2019-09-27 13:41:48Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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So it should come as a shock to no one, that EN is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay behind on even the most basic of content such as the often mentioned skill trials for ninjas as trivial as Karin and Jugo. This is of course despite being hot on the heels of china for pricey ninja such as the new Madara.

Let me be clear, IM NOT TRYING TO INCITE DRAMA SO PLEASE DON'T DELETE THIS.


It would just be nice to have someone with the ability to pass along feedback and ask questions, give us some concrete information on why we are still waiting on simple features (Some of which have been in the waiting room for years now.) If there are good reasons why simple stuff like this is being held back, I'm sure we'd all want to know, so that we don't get our hopes up. We're far enough behind at this point, that adding even one per week, would hardly even be fast enough.


With all the strife in this community over the past week including recharge strikes and players quitting in droves, perhaps this would be a a good stepping stone to rebuild some good faith.

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On 2019-09-27 17:37:25Show this Author Only
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Because tencent thinks western world is a bigger and richer china and they sell premade patches to oasis based on what oasis ask them and if is something that doesn't bring any money it's up on tencent to place there those free features or not and most of the times they don't do it.

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On 2019-09-28 02:14:34Show this Author Only
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So no you're saying Oasis doesn't even have any control over patches? Sounds far fetched

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On 2019-09-28 07:40:59Show this Author Only
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On 2019-09-28 07:51:45Show this Author Only
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  • ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) <3 On 2019-09-28 02:14:34
  • So no you're saying Oasis doesn't even have any control over patches? Sounds far fetched

Oasis does not have control over some of the content. People forget that Oasis is just a publishing company and not the developers of the game. If the developers want to push something, they will get their way.

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On 2019-09-28 08:53:22Show this Author Only
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  • HolotheWiseWolf On 2019-09-28 07:51:45
  • Oasis does not have control over some of the content. People forget that Oasis is just a publishing company and not the developers of the game. If the developers want to push something, they will get their way.

Some yes, I know that. At this point tho if the problem is strictly tenecent, then it would have to be that Oasis has no say in the matter, because we're not seeing any of this stuff, and its been a long time

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On 2019-09-28 11:24:44Show this Author Only
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  • ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) <3 On 2019-09-28 08:53:22
  • Some yes, I know that. At this point tho if the problem is strictly tenecent, then it would have to be that Oasis has no say in the matter, because we're not seeing any of this stuff, and its been a long time

lncorrect, l dont believe oasis just strictly follow the developers tencents

they would at least ask for certain contents they feel would sell,

plus they say we En are our own version.

lf oasis wants to make revenue they will at least give feedback to tencents whats working.

esp if they are not buying all patches.

it not logical to say oasis has no hand at all in the agreement as publisher.

instead oasis has its right to negotiate for suitable content at reasonable price.

either way, if oasis is not earning, tencents wont get its cut either.

they should be working together to max profits n gameplay not other way round.


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On 2019-09-28 15:00:17Show this Author Only
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  • TOMB0LOCKD0WN! On 2019-09-28 11:24:44
  • lncorrect, l dont believe oasis just strictly follow the developers tencents

    they would at least ask for certain contents they feel would sell,

    plus they say we En are our own version.

    lf oasis wants to make revenue they will at least give feedback to tencents whats working.

    esp if they are not buying all patches.

    it not logical to say oasis has no hand at all in the agreement as publisher.

    instead oasis has its right to negotiate for suitable content at reasonable price.

    either way, if oasis is not earning, tencents wont get its cut either.

    they should be working together to max profits n gameplay not other way round.


Oh I don't believe it either. Not only because it doesn't make any logical sense that Oasis wouldn't have some level of pull, but because it's been talked about by people who would know, that it doesn't work like that. I have no doubt that Tenecent pulls a lot of strings, but if we are to truly take the belief that it's all 100% out of Oasis' locus of control, then there would literally not be a single solitary reason for us to even be having this conversation.


On that point if Oasis doesn't have say in patches or direction, then there also wouldn't be any point in us giving feedback, nor for them to even ask for that matter. Would purpose would it even serve?




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On 2019-09-30 05:43:10Show this Author Only
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this post has no purpose also since these issues have been talk about in many post before yours and yet we are still here discussing it.

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On 2019-09-30 10:55:30Show this Author Only
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  • *___o On 2019-09-30 05:43:10
  • this post has no purpose also since these issues have been talk about in many post before yours and yet we are still here discussing it.

have any of them been answered yet? Not that i've seen, and I think thats his point.

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On 2019-10-01 18:01:49Show this Author Only
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  • ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) <3 On 2019-09-28 02:14:34
  • So no you're saying Oasis doesn't even have any control over patches? Sounds far fetched

Many times happened that a new feature applied modified something else without oasis being aware of it (example, the introduction of ultimate training and charms had as a secondary effect the disappearance of +4 resistances and granted gold secondary stats in ninja tools from BF team instance and oasis had no clue about it, this leaded to the first massive riot in the game, something obviously oasis would have tried to avoid if was in their power to do it) this is enough to let us old players know the things work as i said.




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On 2019-10-01 20:45:17Show this Author Only
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  • ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) <3 On 2019-09-28 15:00:17
  • Oh I don't believe it either. Not only because it doesn't make any logical sense that Oasis wouldn't have some level of pull, but because it's been talked about by people who would know, that it doesn't work like that. I have no doubt that Tenecent pulls a lot of strings, but if we are to truly take the belief that it's all 100% out of Oasis' locus of control, then there would literally not be a single solitary reason for us to even be having this conversation.


    On that point if Oasis doesn't have say in patches or direction, then there also wouldn't be any point in us giving feedback, nor for them to even ask for that matter. Would purpose would it even serve?

The point of a feedback official or not, is to get a general idea what people think of issue X or Y...as someone who's been on the otherside, i know how it works, if can make a profit, believe me it will be pushed, not matter what people think, it's not about different playstyles or stagnant gameplay, its about profit, it's always been like that, same with any mobile game(where people waiting for naruto mobile),



Difference between Oasis and Tencent, is simple, one is developer which has the last say, and Oasis which sells and markets the game, it's like choosing the lesser evil, im not saying which one is worst or better, but they operate differently, now regarding updates, i guess it boils down to what they want or what their deal is, but like someone said above, if Tencent wants to push an update on Oasis they can, after all they're the developers, but Oasis can still change certain things, even certain cases Developers listens to the publisher to make adjustments to certain things, like we saw in Mass Effect 2 or 3 not sure, before it was released, but in terms of who or what can it change, i think it comes down to the power of negotiation, which Oasis has the right to, like i said it's only speculation, but one can assume how much power Oasis have when it comes to updates, but ultimately is Tencent who has the last say.




This post was last edited by UchihaShay on 2019-10-01 20:49:49.
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On 2019-10-02 17:01:27Show this Author Only
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  • UchihaShay On 2019-10-01 20:45:17
  • The point of a feedback official or not, is to get a general idea what people think of issue X or Y...as someone who's been on the otherside, i know how it works, if can make a profit, believe me it will be pushed, not matter what people think, it's not about different playstyles or stagnant gameplay, its about profit, it's always been like that, same with any mobile game(where people waiting for naruto mobile),



    Difference between Oasis and Tencent, is simple, one is developer which has the last say, and Oasis which sells and markets the game, it's like choosing the lesser evil, im not saying which one is worst or better, but they operate differently, now regarding updates, i guess it boils down to what they want or what their deal is, but like someone said above, if Tencent wants to push an update on Oasis they can, after all they're the developers, but Oasis can still change certain things, even certain cases Developers listens to the publisher to make adjustments to certain things, like we saw in Mass Effect 2 or 3 not sure, before it was released, but in terms of who or what can it change, i think it comes down to the power of negotiation, which Oasis has the right to, like i said it's only speculation, but one can assume how much power Oasis have when it comes to updates, but ultimately is Tencent who has the last say.

To add two more cents...


It wouldn't be surprising at all if oasis was actually tencent itself, is not unheard of for companies like them to create fake suppliers that are actually managed indirectly by themselves.


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