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On 2019-09-27 23:21:05Show this Author Only
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I tend to get a bit confused, with ToS, tldr they claim they operate under chinese law, but IF the company is located and working on EU soil, the statement they said is completely thrown out the window, as any company operating in EU soil, must abide by the laws, even if you come from China.

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On 2019-09-28 00:40:18Show this Author Only
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I go yes we should fight things in civilised way but i also understands the felts of this people angry over the things here

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On 2019-09-28 07:25:39Show this Author Only
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2019-09-24 05:43:34
  • Ask yourself this. "Would you listen to a group of people who are throwing insults, attacking you, or being rude to you?" I sure as heck wouldn't. Why would Oasis take us seriously if we can't behave properly?

    @Bakfromute, we simply explain to them the issues and we don't let up until something is done without being rude or attacking them. Just like I have done with my 2 Open Letters to Oasis threads.

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On 2019-09-28 08:24:58Show this Author Only
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Nah, I wouldn't feel sorry for anyone, no one wants pity. There is always a right and wrong way to do things. Simple as that.

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On 2019-09-28 10:32:16Show this Author Only
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l know there are enough rich people who can throw tons of money at the game without feeling any waste,

my only concern are the people who are baited to spend beyond their own limit,

there r enough whales to keep the features up, but that doesnt mean revenue is maximised.

the game will have generally more appeal if the playerbase is more populated n rounded. just that.

the requirement for lower cashers is if low cashing even brings about enough sastifaction to continue playing/grinding.

when they know they wont be catching up to high cashers, just provide lower tier content /awards besides the high tier ones,

an example would be more attractive titles up to top ten instead of three. keeping effect on lvl 10 refine etc

bet the whale who can will still pay for high tier gamplay/competition anyways if your game is really attractive.

baiting players to spend beyond their limit grudingly is what is creating so much discontent.

this is the same for the rng that did not give the percentage chance for drops.

l actually do not advocate increasing sun moon cap instead give us more gameplay mode to earn sun moon,

that way people can choose how they want to max their play and give much better deals in strange stone shop too

for hard grinder to get extra not just power but fun stuff. that way all tier of players will have something to strive in game.

just dont lock out too many feature behind super high paywall, its not as enjoyable as you might think.

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On 2019-09-29 15:14:41Show this Author Only
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  • TOMB0LOCKD0WN! On 2019-09-28 10:32:16
  • l know there are enough rich people who can throw tons of money at the game without feeling any waste,

    my only concern are the people who are baited to spend beyond their own limit,

    there r enough whales to keep the features up, but that doesnt mean revenue is maximised.

    the game will have generally more appeal if the playerbase is more populated n rounded. just that.

    the requirement for lower cashers is if low cashing even brings about enough sastifaction to continue playing/grinding.

    when they know they wont be catching up to high cashers, just provide lower tier content /awards besides the high tier ones,

    an example would be more attractive titles up to top ten instead of three. keeping effect on lvl 10 refine etc

    bet the whale who can will still pay for high tier gamplay/competition anyways if your game is really attractive.

    baiting players to spend beyond their limit grudingly is what is creating so much discontent.

    this is the same for the rng that did not give the percentage chance for drops.

    l actually do not advocate increasing sun moon cap instead give us more gameplay mode to earn sun moon,

    that way people can choose how they want to max their play and give much better deals in strange stone shop too

    for hard grinder to get extra not just power but fun stuff. that way all tier of players will have something to strive in game.

    just dont lock out too many feature behind super high paywall, its not as enjoyable as you might think.

I don't see why increasing sun and moon cap wouldn't also help hard grinders. I easily cap both early in the week, and have hundreds of strange stones thrown into mood scrolls or whatever. To me the cap is one of the biggest walls that keeps active players from catching up to bigger spenders, no matter how much they put in. I could easily make near double the current caps, and the amount of resources I could get would be ridiculous were they not so dang low

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On 2019-09-29 16:56:57Show this Author Only
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  • ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) <3 On 2019-09-29 15:14:41
  • I don't see why increasing sun and moon cap wouldn't also help hard grinders. I easily cap both early in the week, and have hundreds of strange stones thrown into mood scrolls or whatever. To me the cap is one of the biggest walls that keeps active players from catching up to bigger spenders, no matter how much they put in. I could easily make near double the current caps, and the amount of resources I could get would be ridiculous were they not so dang low

Well, even if the cap was increased, you're still only limited to (for example) 50 Adv Refines, then 5 every day. So it isn't like increasing the cap will actually help you.

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On 2019-09-29 17:22:49Show this Author Only
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But in that case you would have resources for lesser power functions as well. Like assist links ans Mt Myoboku, maybe even Battle armor. More things to spend sun & moon scrolls for, rather than only the most effective one. This would help more active players to catch up to those, who play only for the convoy/plunder & events.

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On 2019-09-29 18:13:51Show this Author Only
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i believe the sun and moon cap is meant to limit how far you can go per day.. imagine people addicted to the game

or imagine working people or schooling and having no time for all the events thus cap. or more events got added.

on the other hand working adults who are actually interested should have no problem with monthly n platinum.

when grinding surpass coupon spending "too far" the game loses money too or force only super free people to excel in the game.

so other reason for cap is probably they want to limit the speed of powering up and paying off long term grinders.

the stone shop is where the real excess grinders should get their rewards but

right now.. the stone shop is down right close to useless or expensive, only would go for mood scroll there.

rename cards and colour titles ought to be much cheaper at least half the price coz else who would even go for those.

Its also ezier to grind the coupon for rename card than the 1700 stones in strange shop so silly duh!

in a game where you can role play ninja other than compete, making fun titles and cloths and rename card inaccessible is a no no.

oasis should start seeing some features as merely supportive role to enhance the game rather than to pay for.

half the stone shop price on most things and add at least one or two choice power item at "fair" price would be nice.

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On 2019-09-29 20:12:48Show this Author Only
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  • TOMB0LOCKD0WN! On 2019-09-29 18:13:51
  • i believe the sun and moon cap is meant to limit how far you can go per day.. imagine people addicted to the game

    or imagine working people or schooling and having no time for all the events thus cap. or more events got added.

    on the other hand working adults who are actually interested should have no problem with monthly n platinum.

    when grinding surpass coupon spending "too far" the game loses money too or force only super free people to excel in the game.

    so other reason for cap is probably they want to limit the speed of powering up and paying off long term grinders.

    the stone shop is where the real excess grinders should get their rewards but

    right now.. the stone shop is down right close to useless or expensive, only would go for mood scroll there.

    rename cards and colour titles ought to be much cheaper at least half the price coz else who would even go for those.

    Its also ezier to grind the coupon for rename card than the 1700 stones in strange shop so silly duh!

    in a game where you can role play ninja other than compete, making fun titles and cloths and rename card inaccessible is a no no.

    oasis should start seeing some features as merely supportive role to enhance the game rather than to pay for.

    half the stone shop price on most things and add at least one or two choice power item at "fair" price would be nice.

If the cap on both coins was lifted you would be able to get how many... 10k sun coins? 12k? That's 4-6k more than now and it translates to 12 charm packs or 40 refines. 1.2k cp at most. Moon coin cap depends on events but lets assume you can hit 90k on average. Thats 110keys more, which is about another 1.2k So it adds up to slightly less than 10k cp per month.

Full naruto froggies get you about 18k cp per month for doing nothing. Monthly cards give you 5400 for doing nothing. Assuming your spender is lazy, he still comes on top.

Nobody says persistent grind is reserved to ftp. Many top p2w grind the hell out of each event and they are more eficient in it due to their status. So this is a win/win for everybody, and mostly feeling what you do matters for your account. You already can grind wild units in the map to level up ninjas other than main in order to save food. Why shouldnt same approach be possible regarding dailies and their rewards?




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On 2019-09-29 21:03:00Show this Author Only
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thanks for the maths, with current shops updates lately (esp myoboku) lifting the cap altogether is actually not a bad thing,

used to have more sun moon coin on stack than spend, now is different we're lacking plus they are raising cap on refine n runes

then can just forget the entire redundant stone shop and assimilate it into moon shop

or can actually make stone a different currency rather than sun and moon cap converts.

seriously thou depending on pricing and much rarer things available in a revamp stone shop?

it could be made even more attractive than sun and moon shop more like a rare black market situation.. for grinders

if that were the case, would people complain about stones being so useless or remove cap? probably not.

well, anyhow there were much room for improvement for the shops and would be a critical trading gameplay for most

if oasis can be convinced rewarding grinding is a good game move! (since i too grind as much as possible) gud luck!~~

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On 2019-09-30 00:29:38Show this Author Only
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Op how naive you are,the post would be closed,deleted no matter how polite the Community would be,haha.Every forum is the same,negative comments on the game gets deleted or closed,dont blame the Community who have every right to be pissed,rather blame the company who never listens to their customers.

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On 2019-09-30 04:10:30Show this Author Only
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  • Katsapliakos On 2019-09-30 00:29:38
  • Op how naive you are,the post would be closed,deleted no matter how polite the Community would be,haha.Every forum is the same,negative comments on the game gets deleted or closed,dont blame the Community who have every right to be pissed,rather blame the company who never listens to their customers.

Since the mods have kept it open for 6 days now, I'd say you'd be wrong ^-^

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On 2019-10-01 04:16:13Show this Author Only
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they dont need to close it, they just need to delete "some" comments...

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On 2019-10-01 07:11:23Show this Author Only
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no matter anymore.. as long as ourselves know what counts.. let the survivals do the fight..

no point for done players to get work up on the game. XD

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On 2019-10-01 16:40:11Show this Author Only
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How about we all just quit the game? meh me saying this I c*ready see my post being deleted

But i mean there are other games out there we c*l just move to since this game is kinda um ruined to say in a nicer way

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On 2019-10-01 17:23:43Show this Author Only
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  • Qv On 2019-09-27 21:38:06
  • @Scarlettblue Let me answer your statement up there.

    #. Honestly speaking, knowing the fact you and jiburiru are the only people that actually read those threads it's entirely up on you to let those rules be followed or not.

    --- We are here to enforce those rules and by not doing it, we will be irresponsible people who took an oath to their chosen venture in this game and that's a shame to our names. As long as we are here, we will enforce the rules that have been established here accordingly.

    #. If i was in your place at this point i would let them say all they want and leave to daiske the task to dirty a bit more his hands by actually coming here on daily basis and replying directly to people on daily basis.

    --- If Daiske is not busy and can take on every thread you users of the forums will make here then why would I or we, be here in the first place, right?

    #. I would rise the level of what i would consider a drama incitement to a level that i wouldn't consider one neither a flame if is shorter than 100 posts as replies.

    --- Well, on this part I guess I can say, it depends on our discretion on how we will take it and decide on what should we do about it. But I or we Moderators know when to take such action towards a reply or response. Our judgement never relies on our personal agendas or feelings towards the response but on the rules that we are enforcing.

    #. Honestly speaking i don't even understand why you are going on doing this task for a company that does not deserve your time nor your efforts.

    --- I guess I can ạlso throw this question back at you, why do you keep answering threads and giving your inputs about the topics that are on-going here. Maybe your reason is the same as mine.



    and for @GreatOne, I've been working for the game for almost 2 years now so, if I only want those incentives that you are talking about then what's new from the things that I've been doing for a long time now to what I'm doing now? And thank you for your love. I appreciate it. :))


Let me be frank:

#1: that's exactly the kind of answers judges heard at the nuremberg trials.

#2: none pretends daiske replies to every * thing (that's where you and jib come in play) but that he limits himself to say 2-3 sentences once per month at most and exclusively when he knows an horrible patch is going to get implemented is far from what would be acceptable from the only admin that talks to us (so by somebody that actually has the real answers).

#3: when you know a rule is bad or limiting and you are the enforcer is your fault too if bad things happen.

#4: your motivations were the same as mine before becoming a mod, now you are doing that for them, paid by them. The difference is as wide as the sea because in your place i would have resigned from my mod position as soon as this patch was added on live.


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On 2019-10-01 17:26:53Show this Author Only
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  • UchihaShay On 2019-09-27 23:21:05
  • I tend to get a bit confused, with ToS, tldr they claim they operate under chinese law, but IF the company is located and working on EU soil, the statement they said is completely thrown out the window, as any company operating in EU soil, must abide by the laws, even if you come from China.

There's a Chinese law that compels them to make public the ratios of all the gambling events (and in fact in cn version they are on display).

That same law is there basically in every EU country.

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On 2019-10-01 19:20:26Show this Author Only
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  • Akuma Bloodline On 2019-10-01 16:40:11
  • How about we all just quit the game? meh me saying this I c*ready see my post being deleted

    But i mean there are other games out there we c*l just move to since this game is kinda um ruined to say in a nicer way

Legit, I'm honestly on the verge of doing that myself. Just waiting on a new PC to come in, then its bye bye Naruto Online and hello World of Warcraft x)

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On 2019-10-01 20:33:38Show this Author Only
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