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An Open Letter to Oasis Part 2

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Disclaimer: THIS IS NOT AN ATTACK ON OASIS, THIS THREAD ISN'T MEANT TO ATTACK OASIS OR ITS STAFF IN ANY WAY. THIS THREAD IS DESIGNED TO GIVE FEEDBACK ABOUT HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE GAME.

Also: DO NOT CLOSE OR DELETE THIS THREAD, PLAYERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO VENT THEIR FRUSTRATIONS. So if it gets out of hand in this thread, just delete the posts that violate the rules instead of closing this thread.

Before I begin, I had created an Open Letter to Oasis awhile back when the whole Tobei thing happened. I had hoped that feedback could make a difference in how Oasis treats its players and take our feedback more seriously. Apparently I was wrong with how current events are going. A poll was posted and with (last I knew), 75% of the players who participated (even me) voted for not having Refinement update to have the cap increased and the majority wanted it canceled. Daiske had decided to push this update anyways and ignored the feedback provided. (I would provide a Screenshot of what was said, but for privacy concerns I won't.)

I have been sick and tired of Oasis pushing around its player base constantly making changes to the game that the players didn't want to begin with. First it was X-Server SWB, majority of players didn't want it when Oasis put up the poll, they implemented it anyways cause they figured that the players wanted it. Then Daiske had pushed for Cave Key Update when most players didn't want it for the same reason they didn't want refine update. But he pushed that because "there wasn't as much of a pushback" as time went on. Then include the refinement update, it really frustrates me, that despite Oasis (more specifically Jib and QV) try and pass feedback, it is being showed what we say truly doesn't matter.

So when are the player's going to have feedback taken seriously? Oasis keeps claiming we are our own version, but it seems that Oasis doesn't care about the game or the health of the game. Frankly, I am upset due to the fact that I have a level 10 refinement that I'm going to lose its glow showing the accomplishment I had made on 1 piece of gear. Mind you, I don't use the refinement rebate (for specific reasons). It *s having our accomplishments taken away from us. Just to lock in these new refine runes behind HUGE paywalls. Like, Oasis could had waited on this AT LEAST until everyone or most players have their refinements done on at least 2 characters. And even then, this update is a huge mistake. Frankly, just how Oasis is treating us with these terrible updates. It makes me want to quit.

Oasis, why should I continue to play your game? Why should I spend more on my account?

Then you have Daiske blaming the moderators for making a poll claiming "We never stated or promise we would make decisions based on the result". But keep in mind YOUR MODERATORS ARE THE FACE OF OASIS, THEY WORK FOR YOU, THEY POST MORE THAN ANY OTHER EMPLOYEE OF OASIS. So what was the point exactly in letting players vote on a poll that was created by Mods if it wasn't going to matter to begin with? Why be so disingenuous about Oasis caring about our feedback?



~A Player Who Loves This Game

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On 2019-09-23 11:06:04Show this Author Only
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As always. Lol! What u expect?! That's OA and their mods. So many negative comments are deleted especially mine. Why am I keep commenting to this one when my comment will delete soon?! It's because of their wrong deeds! I love this game so much but the game itself keep ruining it. I LOVE THIS GAME SO MUCH AND IT HURTS A LOT THAT THIS GAME KEEP ON RUINING ITSELF BECAUSE OF THIS UPDATE.So? It's up to us ppl to just continue their ways or to stop it right away. They're not going to learn if us will never learn from this event. Oh well, what would I say if my comment will be deleted soon. To those who are going to read this. Please, get this game into the right way.

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On 2019-09-23 10:02:15Show this Author Only
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Imagine still playing NO in 2019 LMFAO

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On 2019-09-23 04:37:59Show this Author Only
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On 2019-09-23 04:36:38Show this Author Only
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  • hooya92 On 2019-09-23 04:18:27
  • in fact it's really only helping the players that are the ones that are spending a ton of money already since whales always end up first and 2nd place at least on my server so it's like they buffed the players that were already spending and said who cares to everyone else.

I used to be able to get 3rd in SWB on *t, guess what, now people in my bracket are 350k+ at the 80s bracket.

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On 2019-09-23 04:18:27Show this Author Only
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  • TobiragoOda On 2019-09-23 03:15:47
  • Ok, we got a small additional help in the matter: adv runes you get from Sage seem to have gotten little buff. 20 for 1st place, 15 for 2nd. 3rd and below seem to have stayed the same. Helps, but only small amount of players.

in fact it's really only helping the players that are the ones that are spending a ton of money already since whales always end up first and 2nd place at least on my server so it's like they buffed the players that were already spending and said who cares to everyone else.

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On 2019-09-23 03:47:10Show this Author Only
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  • TobiragoOda On 2019-09-23 03:15:47
  • Ok, we got a small additional help in the matter: adv runes you get from Sage seem to have gotten little buff. 20 for 1st place, 15 for 2nd. 3rd and below seem to have stayed the same. Helps, but only small amount of players.

It doesn't help most players unfortunately.

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On 2019-09-23 03:15:47Show this Author Only
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Ok, we got a small additional help in the matter: adv runes you get from Sage seem to have gotten little buff. 20 for 1st place, 15 for 2nd. 3rd and below seem to have stayed the same. Helps, but only small amount of players.

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On 2019-09-23 01:45:56Show this Author Only
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  • Indra and Ashur On 2019-09-23 01:32:46
  • why are you even happy? ;/

He was posting that in nearly every thread. He is only trolling.

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On 2019-09-23 01:32:46Show this Author Only
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  • Brandenlol On 2019-09-19 01:04:53
  • Omg so glad lvl 13 refines are here!!! Can't wait to recharge tomorrow!!!

why are you even happy? ;/

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On 2019-09-22 11:41:38Show this Author Only
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Oasis, what are you going to do regarding Adv Refines? Let them be extremely limiting in redeems and let the Epic Refines being able to be obtained 12 a day (2 from group and 10 from Space-Time)? Or are you going to make them more available to players, more available than Epic Refines?

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On 2019-09-21 21:38:17Show this Author Only
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  • Tobei On 2019-09-21 21:24:11
  • I know right!


    Thank the lord that Discord existed so people understood exactly where moderators came from.

    And got honest opinion and actual statements to a community that was left in the dark.


    : )
    Alt accounts are a beauty

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On 2019-09-21 21:34:15Show this Author Only
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  • Moon Lovers On 2019-09-21 20:40:22
  • .

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  • Moon Lovers On 2019-09-21 21:08:50
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I know right!


Thank the lord that Discord existed so people understood exactly where moderators came from.

And got honest opinion and actual statements to a community that was left in the dark.


: )
Alt accounts are a beauty

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On 2019-09-21 21:08:50Show this Author Only
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  • Tobei On 2019-09-21 20:53:18
  • Assumptions and reality are far fetched there champ.

    3 Years, almost 4.
    We've always had disagreements, however the reality is that moderators are punching bags for the community while the company doesn't value their work (Outside of a specific face), Considering how I've been the front face to stopping moronic updates, then yeah. The rune update was exactly that, the straw that broke the camels back.


    As for the remaining statements, what makes you think I'm bound to morals and a silly ToS that changes depending on who's viewing it?
    And that last statement about being hypocritical about other mods lmao. Maybe grandstanding isn't cut out for you, but you can try harder, I'm sure there's gonna be a position available for you

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  • Moon Lovers On 2019-09-21 20:40:22
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Assumptions and reality are far fetched there champ.

3 Years, almost 4.
We've always had disagreements, however the reality is that moderators are punching bags for the community while the company doesn't value their work (Outside of a specific face), Considering how I've been the front face to stopping moronic updates, then yeah. The rune update was exactly that, the straw that broke the camels back.


As for the remaining statements, what makes you think I'm bound to morals and a silly ToS that changes depending on who's viewing it?
And that last statement about being hypocritical about other mods lmao. Maybe grandstanding isn't cut out for you, but you can try harder, I'm sure there's gonna be a position available for you




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  • Tobei On 2019-09-21 10:17:03
  • @Messi

    Since your post has been deleted (Rules are whatever a moderator deems it to be fyi)
    I'll only speak on the part you mentioned my name.


    No, I didn't leave because of my son. I left because of my internal disagreements with Oasis and direction the game has gone.
    I left the staff exactly at 07/12/2019 and dropped a manifesto stating my, and I quote "opinion" which Oasis has deemed false in a official post.
    You can decide that for yourself viewing it (Can't link it here for obvious reasons)

    Additionally, the Official discord was locked and eventually shut down starting from my departure.
    You can find videos of that day within Senbons youtube channel if I'm not mistaken, I even joined his stream to express my concerns.


    Anyway, if this gets deleted for expressing a very neutral standpoint from my side of things, then oh boy.
    Chinese overlords, shutting down any form of speech in a western populated region.


    Say it aint so charlie

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  • Brandenlol On 2019-09-19 01:04:53
  • Omg so glad lvl 13 refines are here!!! Can't wait to recharge tomorrow!!!

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On 2019-09-21 19:58:48Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2019-09-21 06:58:22
  • objectively speaking, what you are saying makes no sense.

    You don't go to a pool house to talk to your friends, you go there to play billiards.

    You don't go to a casino to enjoy the atmosphere, you go there to play hazardous games that make you lead to win money.

    You don't go at the qualifiers of the national championship of chess to hope to find a girl, you go there to play chess and win.

    This game, if you don't compete, gives you close to nothing more than you could gain by going in a chatroom that talks about your interests.

Those examples are keen to personal goals. Beside it you go by your own will to a competition as mentioned above to earn money by winning it. In here you give money to get closer to an unrealistic goal (catching up with so called "whales"). Moreover you set those competitions while you can win them for example you don't just go without checking your chances before and you play after their rules anyway. Is up to how you manage those outcomes and in here you just go blindly keeping their rules as how they are.

You won't go to a chess championship of pros you being novice, you won't go to the International competition of pool by being novice and also casino is not the best example of game people without certain addictions will follow.

If you lament and jump into those blindly then is not their fault that you are losing not only money, maybe time but also a certain degree of mental health. Beside it the pros on those domains who are making money there could be considered "whales" in here as they invested before certain good amounts of resources to compete for big prizes and now they are pros on those fields and well they enjoy it or they are doing it because is their only source of income.

As an end note to my ideas I would say that people should treat this game as a way of relaxing (chatting with friends in here or socialising as I mentioned above could be a factor but not the only one as you could play alone or more, last being difficult because certain events demand certain interactions with other players) and not as a job and they should switch from "competitive" mindset to "creative" mindset by setting goals into this field (ninja exam , using different teams, ninjas build around a power function according to your gaming views about stats + your goals like reaching certain power level in a set amount of time). Of course there will be competitive things in this game because if not what's the point of a game but those are just there to check if your goals or ideas towards your chars building are working.




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On 2019-09-21 16:37:10Show this Author Only
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  • Daiske On 2019-09-19 01:20:00
  • Hello~

    I'm flattered that you think I am the one making such decisions. This update was planned and there were no plans to change or cancel it based on the survey results. Survey was not planned at all. But moderators were determined to show us your opinion once more and we allowed them to create unofficial survey, No one is blaming moderators, they were aware that this survey is not official. We appreciate our moderators and the work they do for our community. We also deeply care about your opinion and we take your feedback into consideration.

    While this survey did not change our opinion on this update, we acknowledge that this update is serious but also game changing. Therefore, due the feedback we've made decision to include ultimate runes in more events and also include more ways how players can obtain them so this update won't have such impact on the game. We ask you to give this update a chance.

    As long as this thread stays civil and no forum rules will be broken, no one will delete or close this thread.

moderator we want Elder Chiyo [chikamatsu of ten puppets] fragments in octobers daily sign-in reward.

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