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On 2019-08-06 07:57:53Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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For God's love, when this meta of Naruto Six Paths will end?

I'm already tired of seeing this ninja everywhere. I thought that with Kushina an Kakuzu breakthroug it would be less used, but I couldn't be more wrong. Not even in the training battle arena which is a place for have fun is possible to have peace without hearing that * Naruto screaming.

It's not even possible to use a ninja you like, because if you don't use Naruto or some specific ninja to counter him you will simply lose.

I must say it has been very discouraging me the direction this game has been taking by "forcing" you to play in a specific way.

I really hope it get's better, or many people who are already getting tired of being "controlled" by the game will end up stopping to play.




This post was last edited by Virgil Hawkings on 2019-08-06 07:57:53.
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On 2019-08-06 08:11:56Show this Author Only
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I feel your pain man, the game is really bleak. It's very annoying to see the game dominated by only one character.

I really love Itachi [Anbu], but unfortunately I can't use it much lately. It's really like I'm being forced to use ninjas simply because they're strong and it's discouraging to always use the same team. It has really made me think of stopping playing this game.

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On 2019-08-06 08:14:57Show this Author Only
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A couple of reasons why Naruto [Sage of Six Paths] will still be around:


1. Still most cost effective high tier ninja. Just getting Kushina to 4 star costs more than Naruto, even more so with Kakuzu.


2. He is being less used. I still run into him in SWB and Matsuri, but in high levels, its mainly just Kakuzu.


3. A lot of times, you need to run lineups in certain modes that counter the meta. When Lightning Main pos 1 was popular, you ran gaara or shields, or masked man. WHen Konan [Angel of God] was strong, you ran kisame fusion or masked man. Naruto, most cheap counter to him is a genjutsu mirror return lineup with shields.

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On 2019-08-06 08:42:28Show this Author Only
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I rather the strongest ninja be Naruto, not Kakuzu.

Also the idea that Kakuzu is as strong as he is, really agitates me...I mean, he got beat by Naruto's Rasenshuriken. And this was before he gained Sage Mode. Yet, for some reason EFG Kakuzu is better than SoSP Naruto? It's not right...




This post was last edited by RenjiAsuka on 2019-08-06 08:43:46.
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On 2019-08-06 14:40:46Show this Author Only
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It's still better then Ronin Naruto. EGF kakuzu is so good partially the same reason Ronin is which is the caling an the double standard it also helps he's got super armor instead of a dodge but he's not immune. I think Ronin is the worse because he literally feeds on the pos 2-4. SoSP is pretty meh but it tends to be easy enough to beat. Only thing i ffind annoying is the long SoSP vs SoSP fights.

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On 2019-08-06 17:55:00Show this Author Only
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those ninja have their own strength and potential, bcoz of people make line up the same and lazy make their own line up that is why make game look da same over same idea, over and over. actually one great line up always has a counter line up or 2 or more. his brain is sleeping that why he cant think of something to beat those line up, better to complain and polishing complaing skills.

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On 2019-08-06 18:15:34Show this Author Only
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Naruto costs 16/20k coupons.

Kushina full skillbroken 100k+

Kakuzu, if you are lucky, 60k (50k for the frags and 10k for the trials).

How do you expect naruto to disappear when both kushina and kakuzu basically are whale only tools?

Whoever is at my power or lower will go on using him.


P.S. Gaara kk trials made him even stronger than he used to be at the strong low cashers level of strength.





This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2019-08-06 18:19:26.
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On 2019-08-06 18:22:14Show this Author Only
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2019-08-06 08:42:28
  • I rather the strongest ninja be Naruto, not Kakuzu.

    Also the idea that Kakuzu is as strong as he is, really agitates me...I mean, he got beat by Naruto's Rasenshuriken. And this was before he gained Sage Mode. Yet, for some reason EFG Kakuzu is better than SoSP Naruto? It's not right...

In a battle between kakuzu eg without breaks and trials and naruto sosp who will win?

Once naturo sosp gets breaks and trials he will get the upper hand again, just look at what happened to edo minato...

And we can get an idea of what his breaks will be by looking at sage naruto trials and at what kurama/6tails have that sosp don't have.




This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2019-08-06 18:23:22.
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On 2019-08-06 19:05:49Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2019-08-06 18:22:14
  • In a battle between kakuzu eg without breaks and trials and naruto sosp who will win?

    Once naturo sosp gets breaks and trials he will get the upper hand again, just look at what happened to edo minato...

    And we can get an idea of what his breaks will be by looking at sage naruto trials and at what kurama/6tails have that sosp don't have.

I can't wait for SoSP breakthrhough I have Kakuzu an brokena n he's not great for me. I hate that its so eassy to shut him down an granted I do obviously get him being immune etc would be to much again look at Ronin dmg+scaling but CC him an it's good. I simply prefer SoSP. Excep the Mystry animation that thing's annoying. I also prefer Minato not only do I feel like he does more mg but he's got the tag appliance igition an his effects look way better.

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On 2019-08-06 19:40:25Show this Author Only
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Guys, I really understand Naruto being used in Space Time, Ranked Battle Arena, Decisive Bonds,but using it in Training Grounds and Sage World that requires speed in defeating the enemy, as these are short events duration. It's pretty annoying when there's only Naruto left against another dodging ninja, for sure it will ne a long fight.

It's also pretty annoying to face him at Training Battle Arena which is a place to play with the characters you like, is not to be competitive.

Other th*ways using same teams with Naruto which are: Naruto Shisui or Edo Itachi Killer B and Earth Main. There is a huge lack of creativity in creating teams, and the game seems to stagnate.

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On 2019-08-06 23:02:15Show this Author Only
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  • Virgil Hawkings On 2019-08-06 19:40:25
  • Guys, I really understand Naruto being used in Space Time, Ranked Battle Arena, Decisive Bonds,but using it in Training Grounds and Sage World that requires speed in defeating the enemy, as these are short events duration. It's pretty annoying when there's only Naruto left against another dodging ninja, for sure it will ne a long fight.

    It's also pretty annoying to face him at Training Battle Arena which is a place to play with the characters you like, is not to be competitive.

    Other th*ways using same teams with Naruto which are: Naruto Shisui or Edo Itachi Killer B and Earth Main. There is a huge lack of creativity in creating teams, and the game seems to stagnate.

the reason is simply one: if the enemy don't run naruto too or if the enemy have a way weaker naruto then he is still perfectly able to win the battle in 1-3 rounds exactly like other burst ninjas like edo hiruzen/agk are able to do.


btw, the main reason why you see naruto with bee and or gaara kk or shisui or itachi is because kushina habanero breaks are out of mind expensive and because edo roshi don't have breaks/trials yet and also because we are in no way able to run teams that would work if our move 2-4 are not obliterated instantly if they aren't support/buffers (and talks a 360k power here).




This post was last edited by Garv on 2019-08-06 23:04:46.
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On 2019-08-06 23:09:50Show this Author Only
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On 2019-08-07 10:13:24Show this Author Only
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  • Virgil Hawkings On 2019-08-06 19:40:25
  • Guys, I really understand Naruto being used in Space Time, Ranked Battle Arena, Decisive Bonds,but using it in Training Grounds and Sage World that requires speed in defeating the enemy, as these are short events duration. It's pretty annoying when there's only Naruto left against another dodging ninja, for sure it will ne a long fight.

    It's also pretty annoying to face him at Training Battle Arena which is a place to play with the characters you like, is not to be competitive.

    Other th*ways using same teams with Naruto which are: Naruto Shisui or Edo Itachi Killer B and Earth Main. There is a huge lack of creativity in creating teams, and the game seems to stagnate.

The point always comes down to people uing cookie cutte team siince there out an hown there easy tto find then copy and use. Then the factt that they perform well compared to a self made team that might be subpar and the SoSP comes down to lack of better ninja. There are alot of f2p's that save for SoSP first an they ttend to get Bee or Gaara from passivly playing an drawing so it's a ready made team. There's also the point that if someone fights you and they have SoSP and you have basic ninja's it mostt likely isn't going well for you so its the can't beat them join them. That or get other ninja's such as AGK EGF but again EGF is really only good skill broken.

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On 2019-08-07 14:49:17Show this Author Only
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2019-08-06 08:42:28
  • I rather the strongest ninja be Naruto, not Kakuzu.

    Also the idea that Kakuzu is as strong as he is, really agitates me...I mean, he got beat by Naruto's Rasenshuriken. And this was before he gained Sage Mode. Yet, for some reason EFG Kakuzu is better than SoSP Naruto? It's not right...

That's like that one post of the circle * about rinnegan sasuke and Uchiha ninjas.

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On 2019-08-07 18:26:22Show this Author Only
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I didnt want sosp a long time.Instead i build power,get Kushina,Minato jonin,Shisui.And where that leave me?Losing to ppl with sosp 20-30k weaker than me.So i save up,and get sosp.And dont regret.Yes,now i do have 10 rounds against other sosp users,and SB Kakuzu still kick my ass.But life is a little bit easy now.

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On 2019-08-07 19:07:58Show this Author Only
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All of the top teams in my server cluster use kakuzu EGF, itachi ET, and RHBH kushina over Naruto SO6P. But he is a relatively cheap way for lower-power player to win easy...

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On 2019-08-07 22:43:33Show this Author Only
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  • Jusis On 2019-08-07 19:07:58
  • All of the top teams in my server cluster use kakuzu EGF, itachi ET, and RHBH kushina over Naruto SO6P. But he is a relatively cheap way for lower-power player to win easy...

of course, they are all whales and have no issues in spending 60k in a ninja AND ALSO 60k in power, but here for example i have to choose and between a naruto six paths at 360k power with a 115k move1 and a kakuzu eg team at 270k power with a 90k move 1 it's obvious what every sane of mind person around my power would choose.

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On 2019-08-08 00:42:48Show this Author Only
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  • Bogotor On 2019-08-07 18:26:22
  • I didnt want sosp a long time.Instead i build power,get Kushina,Minato jonin,Shisui.And where that leave me?Losing to ppl with sosp 20-30k weaker than me.So i save up,and get sosp.And dont regret.Yes,now i do have 10 rounds against other sosp users,and SB Kakuzu still kick my ass.But life is a little bit easy now.

I lost to a guy that had 100k bp less than me, but full bt Ay. Feel your pain

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On 2019-08-08 02:26:06Show this Author Only
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When I spoke to Oasis Support about the meta aspect of Naruto SoSP, they basically told me to trust the developers and refused to acknowledge the issues. After speaking with Oasis corporate in China a few weeks ago, however, I'm now confident they're aware of these issues. Until they resolve them, the game will remain unbalanced in favor of those who are willing to pay hundreds of dollars to enjoy a browser game that's free to play.

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On 2019-08-08 15:55:17Show this Author Only
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  • S08Kazuya On 2019-08-08 02:26:06
  • When I spoke to Oasis Support about the meta aspect of Naruto SoSP, they basically told me to trust the developers and refused to acknowledge the issues. After speaking with Oasis corporate in China a few weeks ago, however, I'm now confident they're aware of these issues. Until they resolve them, the game will remain unbalanced in favor of those who are willing to pay hundreds of dollars to enjoy a browser game that's free to play.

If the game is not in favor of who pays hundreds of dollars then is in favour of who is f2p or low cashing so who wants to spend hundreds of dollars have no reason to do it.

That said, as garv pointed out in a previous thread, the problem is not naruto six pathsm

In arena naruto six paths is not an issue, for example.

It exists a ton of teams that let you win against him and also a good number of them if you don't own initiative.

So how is that in arena he is good but not annoying and outside arena he is this annoying and boring (even if generally lose against kakuzu eg)?

Because his selfhealing is too wide until is 1vs1 and his cd reducing passive effect proc always due to two substats: combo and injury.

Where the game completely fail right now is on this specific side: overstacking move 1 is too effective because spreading is too expensive.

What we need right now is:

1) more features like five nature chakra where an increase of move 1 power gives a boost also to move 2/3/4

2) more features like ninja assist and battle armor that give the same stats to all the moves (so proportionally the move 1 opness mitigates)

3) a wide cut of the costs in all the 1.0/2.0 features that are linked to the single move if you spend there (refinements, cave keys, charms).

4) an astronomical increase of price for move 1 overstacking if some prerequisites in move 2/3/4 are not met or the introduction of a restrictive cap in the actual damage your move 1 is able to land against an enemy if the difference in bp between your move 1 and the average bp value of your move 2/3/4 is higher than 20%)


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