6path can delay his mystery and interrupt anytime..
but using Rinne S works badly esp not in pos 1 that what i'm saying.
given RS chaos utility imo he goes pos 2 better at times.. but low sustainability..
immune to interrupt is useful against the likes of minato nins too
You can literally hold off your mystery until he is about to do his standard attack to make his mystery not so easily interrupted. If your opponent is waiting to interrupt something, and you're holding off, they won't know when to click it.
the leaf was made by the uchihas and the senju hence all uchihas originate from the leaf
No, to say they originate from the leaf is incorrect by every standard. They created the leaf, their clans can't originate from a place that never existed. They did however as far as we know, originate in the Land of Fire.
No, to say they originate from the leaf is incorrect by every standard. They created the leaf, their clans can't originate from a place that never existed. They did however as far as we know, originate in the Land of Fire.
why r u trying to be technical they do originate from the leaf
A fun topic--just want to explain why the anime may not be the best source for reasons to buff Sasuke. If we use the anime as a guide, Sasuke can't be on par with Naruto and here's why:
1. In the final valley (earlier battle), he realized how much stronger Naruto was when he saw the Rasengan damage compared to his own.
2. He had a tough time beating Orochimaru and the snake man couldn't even sign and was sick in bed.
3. He got beat all the way up by Killer Bee. In three rounds he lost all three, even failing to capture Bee.
4. He basically lost to Deidara--Dei's suicide aside. Lightning style is stronger against earth yet he had trouble dealing with Dei. He also had to summon Manda to escape Deidara's last technique. IOW his summon saved him, not his own technique.
5. The last final valley battle after the last war, Naruto won.
6. Naruto won more major battles than Sasuke did. Sasuke lost more major battles than Naruto.
I list these even as a fan of Sasuke's in the game. In the game, a sb normal Sasuke is pretty good and I want the Rinne version too. But in no way should he or any of his other forms be in the same league as Naruto if we were to go by the anime.
A fun topic--just want to explain why the anime may not be the best source for reasons to buff Sasuke. If we use the anime as a guide, Sasuke can't be on par with Naruto and here's why:
1. In the final valley (earlier battle), he realized how much stronger Naruto was when he saw the Rasengan damage compared to his own.
2. He had a tough time beating Orochimaru and the snake man couldn't even sign and was sick in bed.
3. He got beat all the way up by Killer Bee. In three rounds he lost all three, even failing to capture Bee.
4. He basically lost to Deidara--Dei's suicide aside. Lightning style is stronger against earth yet he had trouble dealing with Dei. He also had to summon Manda to escape Deidara's last technique. IOW his summon saved him, not his own technique.
5. The last final valley battle after the last war, Naruto won.
6. Naruto won more major battles than Sasuke did. Sasuke lost more major battles than Naruto.
I list these even as a fan of Sasuke's in the game. In the game, a sb normal Sasuke is pretty good and I want the Rinne version too. But in no way should he or any of his other forms be in the same league as Naruto if we were to go by the anime.
we are talking about sasuke rinnegan not sasuke when he was fighting deidara or killer bee
and sasuke won against naruto in the first final valley battle, and in the second they draw, naruto didnt win, sasuke told him he has won bcuz naruto could change his mind,
not bcuz naruto is stronger
they both couldnt move in the end of the battle so how did naruto win ?
we are talking about sasuke rinnegan not sasuke when he was fighting deidara or killer bee
and sasuke won against naruto in the first final valley battle, and in the second they draw, naruto didnt win, sasuke told him he has won bcuz naruto could change his mind,
not bcuz naruto is stronger
they both couldnt move in the end of the battle so how did naruto win ?
The point in listing those battles was to demo that Sasuke has not been better than Naruto since the chunnin exams and that includes the final fight when he tries his best to kill Naruto. He's always a bit further behind Naruto even with the Rinnegan.
The Ashura line has always been able to ultimately defeat the Indra line in battle despite Indra's line appearing more weapons and chakra savvy. The major fights between Naruto and Sasuke are no different.
The point in listing those battles was to demo that Sasuke has not been better than Naruto since the chunnin exams and that includes the final fight when he tries his best to kill Naruto. He's always a bit further behind Naruto even with the Rinnegan.
The Ashura line has always been able to ultimately defeat the Indra line in battle despite Indra's line appearing more weapons and chakra savvy. The major fights between Naruto and Sasuke are no different.
hagoromo said naruto and sasuke are different from his sons, ashura line dont always win to indra line, naruto and sasuke were equal in power and the best proof their final battle was a draw
even kishimoto said they are equal, and he wanted to make them equal in power
A fun topic--just want to explain why the anime may not be the best source for reasons to buff Sasuke. If we use the anime as a guide, Sasuke can't be on par with Naruto and here's why:
1. In the final valley (earlier battle), he realized how much stronger Naruto was when he saw the Rasengan damage compared to his own.
2. He had a tough time beating Orochimaru and the snake man couldn't even sign and was sick in bed.
3. He got beat all the way up by Killer Bee. In three rounds he lost all three, even failing to capture Bee.
4. He basically lost to Deidara--Dei's suicide aside. Lightning style is stronger against earth yet he had trouble dealing with Dei. He also had to summon Manda to escape Deidara's last technique. IOW his summon saved him, not his own technique.
5. The last final valley battle after the last war, Naruto won.
6. Naruto won more major battles than Sasuke did. Sasuke lost more major battles than Naruto.
I list these even as a fan of Sasuke's in the game. In the game, a sb normal Sasuke is pretty good and I want the Rinne version too. But in no way should he or any of his other forms be in the same league as Naruto if we were to go by the anime.
hold theeee *xtentaction up are you smoking right now ...
sasuke was about to put narutos dreams and little aspirations to waste with indras arrow and then kurama gave him nature energy and it countered sasuke and took them both out and it was a ton load of nature energy too and the losing of their arm was also sasukes doing the Amaterasu burn off their arm a normal rasengan + lighten blade couldn't do that and I want you to keep in mind he only has 1 rinnegan …. go and ask madara what would happen if he was in position of 2 how much stronger he would be
1 I think you're talking about the hospital and if that's the case it doesn't matter if it made a bigger hole the lighten blade kills on contact with the heart or head
2 that snake man was a legendary ninja who was running for the hokage seat back in the day. that same man fought the 4 tails for his own amu*t
3 killer bee had the advantage ( he wasn't suppose to be killed) and he was up to par if not stronger that the raikage
4 he wanted information from deidara and you cant question a dead man can you?
5 Naruto didn't win anything it was a draw … it was just sugar coated to make him feel better
6 how did you come to that conclusion
p.s. rinnegan sasuke hasn't unlocked his full potential yet the guys walking around with one arm when the deva path in him can bring his arm back
Actually Edo Han's standard attack hits an entire row (3 enemies) as well as repulse. So if Rinne Sasuke keeps his standard attack how it is, where he hits an entire row as WELL as repulse, then I feel his explosive mode for standard attacks will be justified.
I'm well aware that Rinne Sasuke has a lot of tags. That isn't the issue. The only real issue with him is that his standard attack is weak. His explosive mode feels wasted due to it. He could have another bonus in explosive to go alongside the Crit instead.
But edo han has no damaging mystery. It's acceptable.
He is like ay4th.
A masked man or a shisui even if slower makes him useless.
If Rinne Sasuke does 2 standards regardless of explosive mode or not
and maybe he has immune to interruption too.. then I'd consider him fair to use XD
basically he becomes viable to a degree vs sosp with those 2 addition.
You can give him bee mystery to do what you actually said and no he doesn't become "viable" vs sosp becomes a full counter that works in any situation besides huge differences in BP even by not owning initiative just by running midnight blade with row and warrior intent together with ningendo (unless the enemy uses madara 5ks or sand dust).
If he had it by default bee would not be required so you could place in his place itachi susano'o/edo, konan taisho/angel god or kakuzu eg/wb asuma trial passive and basically have no counter.
Think they meant that the Uchiha clan was around long before the leaf village existed meaning they do not originate from the leaf village. Just like the Senju clan.
i know I know but after the leaf was made they all came from Konoha... that's why I said obito should be Konoha tagged
hagoromo said naruto and sasuke are different from his sons, ashura line dont always win to indra line, naruto and sasuke were equal in power and the best proof their final battle was a draw
even kishimoto said they are equal, and he wanted to make them equal in power
Kishimoto himself said he never drawn Naruto at full power. The image here is pretty random too.
With Sasuke, Naruto had to show restraint so as to not kill him. Sasuke also admitted defeat in the second fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQc8K5JZobk
Think of it this way. Your friend attacks you in an attempt to kill you. You don't want to kill him, but you want to at least stop him and get him to rethink what he's doing. You manage to stop him even though you are both in the same physical condition in the end. Did you win, lose, or draw in the fight?
Overall, Naruto is stronger than Sasuke
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