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On 2019-01-19 01:56:57Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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many months later


Congratulations !!!


You finally saved up 20k coupons, after many months of collecting every single coupon your eye could see and your mouse could reach, aiming for that op ninja that will carry your team to new heights, while fighting that inner desire to waste your coupons left and right on every single new event rotation.


The big question anyone in this situation is asking: Which ninja should I get o_O ?


Random dude in the crowd: << whatcha talkn abt js get yer so6p nd end this sht >>


wooh wooh hold your horses ! sure naruto 6 paths is probably one of the best ninjas right now, but there are other competitors in that 20k coupons range that deserve a second look, but first, what makes a good overall ninja ? (my personal opinion)


1) a mystery/standard/chase that hits multiple targets

2) able to chase his own mystery/standard atk

3) survival kit

4) that extra thing that makes him standout


based on information gathered around the forum here are the ninjas worthy of your 20k coupons:


- Kakashi "Susano'o"

- Konan "AoG"

- Naruto "6 paths"

- Sasuke "Rinne Sharingan"

- Hiruzen "Edo tensei"

- Bee "8 tails chakra"

- Minato "Edo tensei"

- Tobirama "Edo tensei"


Instead of me breaking down the above ninja one by one (they all check the 4 criteria), I would like to hear from you guys, which one do you think is worth investing in, and more importantly "Why not the others ?"




This post was last edited by Voidium on 2019-01-19 01:56:57.
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On 2019-01-19 02:04:44Show this Author Only
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Is it really a choice though? Easily Naruto Sage of Six Paths. Kakshi Susanoo, Tobirama Edo Tensei, and Hiruzen Edo Tensei are pretty decent support ninjas but if it takes you forever to save up for 20k coupons getting a "support" ninja is not worth the investment. (Since you are F2P or a low spender you probably dont have an insanely stacked pos1). AGK gets pretty hard countered by Edo Itachi (so if you dont see those that often, she might also be a decent choice.) Sasuke Rinne Sharingan is kinda fun to use but he requires a pretty decent supporting cast and is not as flexible as some other choices. Minato Edo Tensei I do have fun using but I mainly use him on my auto space time teams or ranked teams to make full use of his undodgeable mystery. If you want to use him in PvP, you gotta use someone who can steal chakra. Bee 8Tails chakra is overpriced, not worth 20k.


Naruto 6 paths is the best because he removes shields and buffs on chase while causing immobile, has a lot of different units that can buff his damage, has a mystery reset, and leeches. Without a doubt, he is the most annoying ninja to deal with currently with Edo Itachi being a close second.

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On 2019-01-19 10:13:49Show this Author Only
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  • HolotheWiseWolf On 2019-01-19 02:04:44
  • Is it really a choice though? Easily Naruto Sage of Six Paths. Kakshi Susanoo, Tobirama Edo Tensei, and Hiruzen Edo Tensei are pretty decent support ninjas but if it takes you forever to save up for 20k coupons getting a "support" ninja is not worth the investment. (Since you are F2P or a low spender you probably dont have an insanely stacked pos1). AGK gets pretty hard countered by Edo Itachi (so if you dont see those that often, she might also be a decent choice.) Sasuke Rinne Sharingan is kinda fun to use but he requires a pretty decent supporting cast and is not as flexible as some other choices. Minato Edo Tensei I do have fun using but I mainly use him on my auto space time teams or ranked teams to make full use of his undodgeable mystery. If you want to use him in PvP, you gotta use someone who can steal chakra. Bee 8Tails chakra is overpriced, not worth 20k.


    Naruto 6 paths is the best because he removes shields and buffs on chase while causing immobile, has a lot of different units that can buff his damage, has a mystery reset, and leeches. Without a doubt, he is the most annoying ninja to deal with currently with Edo Itachi being a close second.

AGK usually goes together kisame samehada. Getting 30+ chakra is quite easy for that team (and so meeting the condition to remove dream state).

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On 2019-01-19 19:24:24Show this Author Only
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I'd just vote for Edo Hiruzen....(currently using mine at 135k power where everyone else has about 10-15k more than me so meh.)

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On 2019-01-20 02:57:26Show this Author Only
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Well i recommend you wait for Madara GNW as he might come out sooner then we all think

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On 2019-01-20 09:29:17Show this Author Only
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... or save another 15k for 4* Kakuzu if we ever get his trial ;)

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On 2019-01-21 01:11:46Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2019-01-19 10:13:49
  • AGK usually goes together kisame samehada. Getting 30+ chakra is quite easy for that team (and so meeting the condition to remove dream state).

To be honest, I rarely ever use Kisame with AGK. Plus, you'd have better luck using Kisame to stop Edo Itachi from using a mystery in the first place rather than actually clearing his debuff.

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On 2019-01-21 02:17:02Show this Author Only
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Go for Hiruzen. If you have to save up for months to get the ninja, chances are you don't last enough rounds to use 6path Naruto.

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On 2019-01-21 02:22:45Show this Author Only
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Congratulations!


I would say, go for ninja that you really like and would like to add to your team.

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On 2019-01-21 02:26:36Show this Author Only
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Regarding your question... I feel like that random dude in the crowd

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On 2019-01-21 03:48:50Show this Author Only
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Well, i'm gonna be working on the assumption first that you are a f2p, which means no strong support ninjas yet like edo itachi, fusion kisame, etc. This also means that you either want to get a pos 1 'main' ninja for your 20k cpns.

Now, lets go through and 'eliminate' bad choices.

SSN Kakashi - terrible choice for f2p's 20k cpns, has pathetic damage, 3 round cooldown. Its exclusively a support ninja.

Sasuke "Rinne Sharingan" - his main problem is low damage output on his mystery and no interrupt ability. He's a good 2nd-dmg/support ninja for ppl who have strong pos 1 ninjas already, but not for a f2p.

Hiruzen "Edo tensei" - This is a ninja that basically has one use; as a Sage World Battlefield kill-streaker. This also means you need to have a pretty high power to use him well. If you're facing players 30k+ lower power than you in Sage, then this is a good option to get high streaks and get adv refines. But otherwise, he's not a strong ninja, especially in 1v1 matches against similar power.

Bee "8 tails chakra" - he's 'alright', but compared to 6 paths naruto, Kbee is basically inferior in almost all forms.

Minato "Edo tensei" - he's pretty strong, but ONLY if you are faster. If you're slower (for f2p's, this is usually the case), this is a really bad ninja to have.

Tobirama 'Edo Tensei' - another support ninja, one usually only used with edo hiruzen after u have edo hashirama. Not smth a f2p needs.


Now this brings us to the last two ninja, which I think are your only two worthwhile options


- Konan "AoG" - Has incredible 9+ ninja damage (especially with chakra), hits through dodge, cooldown reduction. If you have fusion kisame or regular madara, this is a great ninja to use in both GNW and for 1v1 matches in sage. Mostly immune to chases. Her downside is that mystery doesn't interrupt, and she alone isn't immune.

- Naruto "6 paths" - Has rather poor mystery damage but good standard damage. Interrupts 9+ ninjas. Cooldown reduction. Chase removes buffs. Has leech. Has dodge. Etc etc... 6p naruto is the most broken ninja in the game, and most likely your best choice as he does not require any support ninjas. His only downsides are that your matches will take a long time even when you are much stronger (so suboptimal for Sage), and his mystery doesn't hit through dodge (so can't interrupt minato, shisui, etc).

Note that of the ninjas we are going to receive (based on CN ninjas), Grudge Mode Kakuzu's skill breakthroughs are more powerful than 6 paths Naruto. So in the long run, Kakuzu is better than 6 paths naruto or AGK. However, we DON'T KNOW if we're gonna get kakuzu's SB's at all, or if he's going to be nerfed. So atm, 6p naruto and AGK are your best bets most likely.



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On 2019-01-21 03:51:05Show this Author Only
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  • Nightowlgamer On 2019-01-21 03:48:50
  • Well, i'm gonna be working on the assumption first that you are a f2p, which means no strong support ninjas yet like edo itachi, fusion kisame, etc. This also means that you either want to get a pos 1 'main' ninja for your 20k cpns.

    Now, lets go through and 'eliminate' bad choices.

    SSN Kakashi - terrible choice for f2p's 20k cpns, has pathetic damage, 3 round cooldown. Its exclusively a support ninja.

    Sasuke "Rinne Sharingan" - his main problem is low damage output on his mystery and no interrupt ability. He's a good 2nd-dmg/support ninja for ppl who have strong pos 1 ninjas already, but not for a f2p.

    Hiruzen "Edo tensei" - This is a ninja that basically has one use; as a Sage World Battlefield kill-streaker. This also means you need to have a pretty high power to use him well. If you're facing players 30k+ lower power than you in Sage, then this is a good option to get high streaks and get adv refines. But otherwise, he's not a strong ninja, especially in 1v1 matches against similar power.

    Bee "8 tails chakra" - he's 'alright', but compared to 6 paths naruto, Kbee is basically inferior in almost all forms.

    Minato "Edo tensei" - he's pretty strong, but ONLY if you are faster. If you're slower (for f2p's, this is usually the case), this is a really bad ninja to have.

    Tobirama 'Edo Tensei' - another support ninja, one usually only used with edo hiruzen after u have edo hashirama. Not smth a f2p needs.


    Now this brings us to the last two ninja, which I think are your only two worthwhile options


    - Konan "AoG" - Has incredible 9+ ninja damage (especially with chakra), hits through dodge, cooldown reduction. If you have fusion kisame or regular madara, this is a great ninja to use in both GNW and for 1v1 matches in sage. Mostly immune to chases. Her downside is that mystery doesn't interrupt, and she alone isn't immune.

    - Naruto "6 paths" - Has rather poor mystery damage but good standard damage. Interrupts 9+ ninjas. Cooldown reduction. Chase removes buffs. Has leech. Has dodge. Etc etc... 6p naruto is the most broken ninja in the game, and most likely your best choice as he does not require any support ninjas. His only downsides are that your matches will take a long time even when you are much stronger (so suboptimal for Sage), and his mystery doesn't hit through dodge (so can't interrupt minato, shisui, etc).

    Note that of the ninjas we are going to receive (based on CN ninjas), Grudge Mode Kakuzu's skill breakthroughs are more powerful than 6 paths Naruto. So in the long run, Kakuzu is better than 6 paths naruto or AGK. However, we DON'T KNOW if we're gonna get kakuzu's SB's at all, or if he's going to be nerfed. So atm, 6p naruto and AGK are your best bets most likely.



I should also note that of the 'good ninjas' that you listed, you missed out a few. Notably, Edo Tensei Itachi and 5 Kage Madara.

If you're a f2p, one option u c*e is water main pos 1 shark bomb.

For this team, 5k madara and edo tensei itachi are both great support ninjas

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On 2019-01-21 04:34:00Show this Author Only
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offtopic: saving 20k coupons takes some dedication :d

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On 2019-01-21 04:50:49Show this Author Only
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  • xxMihai On 2019-01-21 04:34:00
  • offtopic: saving 20k coupons takes some dedication :d

Saving that much happens in any other game, especially mobile games. So it comes down to who is willing to be dedicated or someone who spends as fast as they get the currency?

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On 2019-01-21 04:59:12Show this Author Only
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First of all thank you all, for taking the time to answer.

Yes i'm a f2p, yes i'm looking for that pos1 damage dealer, he will be my first and (i guess...) my last event ninja i would use coupons on (need to work on that power), i'm on a fairly new server (36 days old) but we already have x4 naruto 6 paths, x3 edo hiruzen, x2 edo minato, x2 susano'o sasuke, x2 minato jonin, x2 edo itachi, x1 shark kisame, my rank go up and down between 7th and 10th position with 6th highest initiative on server.

rank 1 have 47k power

rank 2 have 36k ^^

rank 10 have 31k...

Now you have the overall picture of my situation.

last thing to mention, i don't have the 20k coupons just yet (didn't spend a single coupon from day 1, and right now i have 11476 coupons, so another month or two before taking this game changing step XD)

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On 2019-01-21 05:32:25Show this Author Only
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For now it looks like either AGK or naruto. But you also need to consider other ninjas required for both teams, like kisame/anbu yamato for Konan or killer bee for Naruto. Bee is definitely cheaper alternative since he can often be found for 30cp/frag, as well as "maybe" a lucky draw in the treasure. If you had resources now, I'd say naruto is the best pick, jump on a hype train before his time ends, make him earn some of those coupons back. In 2 months meta might change given our rushed release schedule of ninjas, so planning investment for the future and slowly gathering resources/frags for a complete team doesnt work as good as it worked a year ago or even before that. There arent that many powerful unreleased ninjas left but who knows how are they going to influence us. Naruto wasnt supposed to be as strong as he is now.

Btw. good choice with saving coupons, that's a really good decision (and honestly the only real option for ftp) to even try to stay competitive. Best of luck, stay determined and may the rng events not lure you into fatal coupon spendings :-)

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On 2019-01-21 05:41:49Show this Author Only
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  • Zathroth On 2019-01-21 05:32:25
  • For now it looks like either AGK or naruto. But you also need to consider other ninjas required for both teams, like kisame/anbu yamato for Konan or killer bee for Naruto. Bee is definitely cheaper alternative since he can often be found for 30cp/frag, as well as "maybe" a lucky draw in the treasure. If you had resources now, I'd say naruto is the best pick, jump on a hype train before his time ends, make him earn some of those coupons back. In 2 months meta might change given our rushed release schedule of ninjas, so planning investment for the future and slowly gathering resources/frags for a complete team doesnt work as good as it worked a year ago or even before that. There arent that many powerful unreleased ninjas left but who knows how are they going to influence us. Naruto wasnt supposed to be as strong as he is now.

    Btw. good choice with saving coupons, that's a really good decision (and honestly the only real option for ftp) to even try to stay competitive. Best of luck, stay determined and may the rng events not lure you into fatal coupon spendings :-)

there was already 2 fukurokumaru deals in the past month where naruto 6 paths was in a redeemable event (lucky board and lucky star wheel) and yamato anbu was one of the "free" ninja you could get from fuku deal as a bonus, that's my goal if anything similar occur when i have the required 20k coupons, also i'm already hands and feet in kage treasure drawing whenever it's possible, already got mei and mifune, still no sight of bee.

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On 2019-01-21 05:50:17Show this Author Only
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  • Danzō On 2019-01-21 04:50:49
  • Saving that much happens in any other game, especially mobile games. So it comes down to who is willing to be dedicated or someone who spends as fast as they get the currency?

the difference here is that if you save you do not get any bp, more or less, so you can do it with some hopes is worth it only if you are in a very good situation (i have issues too in actually finding the best compromise between hoarding and spending and i'm not f2p (monthly cards + lowest froggy) and i am currently at 210k power).




This post was last edited by Garv on 2019-01-21 05:52:29.
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On 2019-01-21 06:15:42Show this Author Only
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  • Garv On 2019-01-21 05:50:17
  • the difference here is that if you save you do not get any bp, more or less, so you can do it with some hopes is worth it only if you are in a very good situation (i have issues too in actually finding the best compromise between hoarding and spending and i'm not f2p (monthly cards + lowest froggy) and i am currently at 210k power).

My issue is that from the looks like of those who try to point out that saving is hard seems like they don't have the patience (someone recently said so in one of their posts). As a f2p, you don't have the luxury to say that if you want to compete.


I rarely see the point you are bringing up in the trading off with saving. I understand that point as I see people increasing their initiative more than mine while I save but I know the trade-off when to spend and when to save for my situation. It was much easier to figure out the trade-off to spend before the rushed content but the fuku deals helped the decision process since if I plan to spend that much in a week of fuku, I'll get an assortment of frags, items on top of what I spend for that week, whether it is on power or ninjas. Before the rushed content, I had to rely on predicting based on the perceived timeline of what we would get from Germany/China and when a ninja comes.




This post was last edited by Danzō on 2019-01-21 06:22:35.
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