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On 2018-10-17 17:22:48Show this Author Only
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  • selyl On 2018-10-16 23:42:42
  • 1st round : shisui dodge agk's standard attack. But gets hit by mystery of earth grudge kakuzu egk. And also gets hit by egk's standard attack. shisui attacks with standard attack.



    2nd round : agk mystery lands on shisui but standard attack dodged by shisui. shisui uses mystery on egk. shisui attacks.


    3rd round : shisui dodges agk standard attack , agk n egk gets hit by shisui. egk in coma, cant heal.


    do I need to go on? agk will die first by ignite. egk will forever be in coma by shisui koto. 3 rd cd, 2 rd chaos



    I can make 2 main fighting by themselves at bottom row without bothering the 3 of them. fire sleep vs. lightning calm mind.

If egk is 1st in slot is 100% defeat for shisui. Why do you take for granted that agk is first? And why you do not consider the 3rd ninja they use? And who is so mad to use fire main with immobile mystery with agk and egk? To not talk about the fact they usually go with earth, wind or water main and not fire...




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On 2018-10-17 17:25:30Show this Author Only
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Uhm. Quick question: How about kakuzu pos 1? His mystery can easily interrupt shisui. Also having kakuzu pos 1 will make shisui dodge him, instead of konan, giving you a chance to chain immobile.

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On 2018-10-17 17:30:57Show this Author Only
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  • Pupsiiiii On 2018-10-17 00:41:50
  • AGK is very squishy for a position 1 ninja. Which is why most people play her with a main.

    But srsly, if you wanna conquer your shisui trauma, just replace EGK with Masked Man.

I use agk, hokage minato, kisame samehada, wind main lineup in arena with sand dust and *y harem jutsu. Never lost a single match against shisui teams that do not run also itachi susano'o (and is the latter that makes them win, not shisui, and only, most of the times, if they own move 1 initiative).

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On 2018-10-17 17:33:23Show this Author Only
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  • Shryke On 2018-10-17 17:25:30
  • Uhm. Quick question: How about kakuzu pos 1? His mystery can easily interrupt shisui. Also having kakuzu pos 1 will make shisui dodge him, instead of konan, giving you a chance to chain immobile.

Yeah, is what i pointed out too.

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On 2018-10-17 17:37:48Show this Author Only
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Well , even if you need 45k coupon Agk+Egk breakthrough to beat 15k shisui , do you think you can really win in 1 v 2 always?


It only takes for you to miss immobile one round for you to be in eternal genjutsu and forfeit both of your life. hahahaha.

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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-10-17 17:33:23
  • Yeah, is what i pointed out too.

So now you want to use 35k coupon fight 12k coupon but cannot win, now you also want to have higher initiative,


Why not bring the whole six path team in about 90k cp, madara six path, Naruto six path ,sasuke six path , that will surely win.


lol.

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On 2018-10-17 17:57:10Show this Author Only
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Well their price tag does not necessarily mean they're good for a "1v2" fight. But why are you so fixated on Shisui vs Angel Konan + Earth Grudge Kakuzu though. Angel Konan + a common ninja like Ningendo will do the trick. Ningendo too OP

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On 2018-10-17 18:26:04Show this Author Only
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  • selyl On 2018-10-17 17:37:48
  • Well , even if you need 45k coupon Agk+Egk breakthrough to beat 15k shisui , do you think you can really win in 1 v 2 always?


    It only takes for you to miss immobile one round for you to be in eternal genjutsu and forfeit both of your life. hahahaha.

ehh... that's why we have things called support ninja? to remove debuffs on your main damage dealers? getting hit by a shisui mystery isn't the end of the world, much less the end of the battle.


also post a video of this shisui beating agk/kakuzu. i've lost track on what's going on already XD


as for shisui being too op...he ain't. dunno about you but i've beaten shisui teams with a JM team. of course strategy and luck counts, as do BP and substats.

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On 2018-10-17 18:29:58Show this Author Only
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Lol, someone here bought an expensive ninja and thinks he should be able to beat everyone?

This is a strategy game, not who has the flashiest ninjas game. You can buy the most expensive ninja, but if someone has a counter f2p team they will win.

Also, you still didnt tell us who your third ninja and main are.




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On 2018-10-17 18:32:13Show this Author Only
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Only that Angel Konan + a common ninja like Ningendo will probably still lose. Now we are going into a common "specific " ninja to counter shisui. Do you use ningendo personally to get six path in arena?


The whole point is on first post. #37 and #56.


kakuzu should be more useful than this. Currently he is only a burden that is a laughing stock, a huge chicken or a peac0ck, or a tribal man lool.


breakthrough or no breakthrough he needs to be useful, what kind of damage does he have now? if not why did they release him ?


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a.) shisui koto should be 4 round cd. Permana chaos with dodge + attack 2 unit + ignite 2 unit? The only thing short from a Saiyan is that shisui cant fly. (Seiyl 2018)


b.) EGK heal should bypass ignite. If you reattach limbs, you should always gain some health. He is a monster in the anime but hes like a little chicken in this game which his mystery cannot even kill a 3/4 life clone, EVEN with konan buff in arena. What happens when the buff is over? Don't make me laugh. Few times he cant kill a ninja with little life left with his mystery I bet the opponent is laughing.

He cost too much to be too useless.


This doesn't make sense to you?






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On 2018-10-17 18:52:24Show this Author Only
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  • selyl On 2018-10-17 18:32:13
  • Only that Angel Konan + a common ninja like Ningendo will probably still lose. Now we are going into a common "specific " ninja to counter shisui. Do you use ningendo personally to get six path in arena?


    The whole point is on first post. #37 and #56.


    kakuzu should be more useful than this. Currently he is only a burden that is a laughing stock, a huge chicken or a peac0ck, or a tribal man lool.


    breakthrough or no breakthrough he needs to be useful, what kind of damage does he have now? if not why did they release him ?


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    a.) shisui koto should be 4 round cd. Permana chaos with dodge + attack 2 unit + ignite 2 unit? The only thing short from a Saiyan is that shisui cant fly. (Seiyl 2018)


    b.) EGK heal should bypass ignite. If you reattach limbs, you should always gain some health. He is a monster in the anime but hes like a little chicken in this game which his mystery cannot even kill a 3/4 life clone, EVEN with konan buff in arena. What happens when the buff is over? Don't make me laugh. Few times he cant kill a ninja with little life left with his mystery I bet the opponent is laughing.

    He cost too much to be too useless.


    This doesn't make sense to you?



i did in fact use ningendo to get to 6 paths for 4 months before i drew ay3.


post #1: yes please make a video. you're barking up the wrong tree this is oasisgames not tencent. i don't face intense balancing issues in the game so ig this whole topic isnt particularly important to me

post #37: agk was never nerfed. im seeing a lot of trust issues against rich people? man, who hurt you? again, you're barking up the wrong tree; tencent couldnt care less about the EN version. you're cute, there's no need to bring *ism into this topic.

post #56: i doubt you've ever set foot in china much less experienced their culture gg.u also ignored all his questions in your reply.


i've yet to see you give a straightforward answer in these posts, so once again i'm left wondering if you yourself understand what's happening, and what you're asking. the fact that you're addressing this to tencent on the oasis forum...makes me question your sanity even more.


so we've established grudge kakuzu doesnt work for you, i guess? and you're salty becuase you have kakuzu and he isnt working for you. that's cool. go get another ninja. go get another team.


heals don't work through ignite. that's just how the game works. you can't map everything in the anime exactly and this is something you have to learn to accept. games are not an accurate representation of the anime/real world. if you think they are, well...that's another strike against your mental capacity.


in the end, if you're salty, just don't play. if the game doesnt meet your expectations, leave. changing ninja kits is not up to oasis. go complain to tencent. there are forums on huoyingqq where you can do this, instead of taking out your frustrations here, where no one cares.

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On 2018-10-17 18:58:57Show this Author Only
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  • SomeoneRandom On 2018-10-17 18:29:58
  • Lol, someone here bought an expensive ninja and thinks he should be able to beat everyone?

    This is a strategy game, not who has the flashiest ninjas game. You can buy the most expensive ninja, but if someone has a counter f2p team they will win.

    Also, you still didnt tell us who your third ninja and main are.

How about 2 expensive ninjas. If 2 more expensive ninjas cannot win a single less expensive ninja isn't shocking , I think your brain isn't working. Also, next time I get the most expensive ninja like madara six path, and few other random ninjas, I see how you want to win me and the loser should pull down his pants.


Also, does it matter who the 3rd or main? The point is the cost is way too high to lose to lower cost. Don't try to console yourself by saying what strategy game. They left shisui op for a reason which I already stated.


I am not gonna waste time and answer your every single question when you only need to properly follow the answers that is already in this thread.


I have used gakido or sakura whether wind main or h2o main, as long as you use AGK+EGK, you cannot beat shisui + anbu with common ROW.


Next you gonna tell me madara 5k. Nice, now we have 35k coupon + 15k = 50k.


Sometimes I think you people are...….bl, well if you cannot even see some bugs in the game, what can I expect?

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I think that was my shisui which defeated you since i've even defeated Agk, earth grudge kakuzu and kisame samehada with my shisui too even when i have had less initiative i just aim for reseting shisuis mystery by defeating clones or sharks etc. Thats just called playing smart.

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On 2018-10-17 19:13:55Show this Author Only
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  • Exvius On 2018-10-17 17:57:10
  • Well their price tag does not necessarily mean they're good for a "1v2" fight. But why are you so fixated on Shisui vs Angel Konan + Earth Grudge Kakuzu though. Angel Konan + a common ninja like Ningendo will do the trick. Ningendo too OP

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  • Kuebiko On 2018-10-17 18:52:24
  • i did in fact use ningendo to get to 6 paths for 4 months before i drew ay3.


    post #1: yes please make a video. you're barking up the wrong tree this is oasisgames not tencent. i don't face intense balancing issues in the game so ig this whole topic isnt particularly important to me

    post #37: agk was never nerfed. im seeing a lot of trust issues against rich people? man, who hurt you? again, you're barking up the wrong tree; tencent couldnt care less about the EN version. you're cute, there's no need to bring *ism into this topic.

    post #56: i doubt you've ever set foot in china much less experienced their culture gg.u also ignored all his questions in your reply.


    i've yet to see you give a straightforward answer in these posts, so once again i'm left wondering if you yourself understand what's happening, and what you're asking. the fact that you're addressing this to tencent on the oasis forum...makes me question your sanity even more.


    so we've established grudge kakuzu doesnt work for you, i guess? and you're salty becuase you have kakuzu and he isnt working for you. that's cool. go get another ninja. go get another team.


    heals don't work through ignite. that's just how the game works. you can't map everything in the anime exactly and this is something you have to learn to accept. games are not an accurate representation of the anime/real world. if you think they are, well...that's another strike against your mental capacity.


    in the end, if you're salty, just don't play. if the game doesnt meet your expectations, leave. changing ninja kits is not up to oasis. go complain to tencent. there are forums on huoyingqq where you can do this, instead of taking out your frustrations here, where no one cares.


No straightforward answers? Are you angry? or just partial blind? So what is the forum discussion for?


Well, with that mentality of yours, that is exactly why the game doesn't capture enough people.


"heals don't work through ignite. that's just how the game works. you can't map everything in the anime exactly and this is something you have to learn to accept. games are not an accurate representation of the anime/real world. if you think they are, well...that's another strike against your mental "


So you are the coder? You work for tencent? If not how you know? If not, limiting games in such a capacity? Well, that must reflects a lot about your mental capacity.



"in the end, if you're salty, just don't play. if the game doesnt meet your expectations, leave. changing ninja kits is not up to oasis. go complain to tencent. there are forums on huoyingqq where you can do this, instead of taking out your frustrations here, where no one cares."



Did I say it was up to oasis? Guess whose slapping himself trying to act smart, with his mental capacity. Where no one cares? How many people have you seen saying shisui is op in this forum? You mean oasis cannot even find a simple way to simply feedback to tencent just reach their IT department ? Or you think instead of talking on forum I should call to tencent about it?


Most importantly if it's not important to you , then why the fk are you hijacking this thread with your unconstructive nonsense?






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  • selyl On 2018-10-17 18:58:57
  • How about 2 expensive ninjas. If 2 more expensive ninjas cannot win a single less expensive ninja isn't shocking , I think your brain isn't working. Also, next time I get the most expensive ninja like madara six path, and few other random ninjas, I see how you want to win me and the loser should pull down his pants.


    Also, does it matter who the 3rd or main? The point is the cost is way too high to lose to lower cost. Don't try to console yourself by saying what strategy game. They left shisui op for a reason which I already stated.


    I am not gonna waste time and answer your every single question when you only need to properly follow the answers that is already in this thread.


    I have used gakido or sakura whether wind main or h2o main, as long as you use AGK+EGK, you cannot beat shisui + anbu with common ROW.


    Next you gonna tell me madara 5k. Nice, now we have 35k coupon + 15k = 50k.


    Sometimes I think you people are...….bl, well if you cannot even see some bugs in the game, what can I expect?

My point is that some ninja have counter, and if you are fighting a ninja who is counter to your team, you lose. You forget that Shisui is fire and AGK is wind. That's 20% damage more just because of their element.

P.S. water main with AGK? I don't know if that will work... you know, no chakra generator unless you run a third ninja who has clones. No buff either. It is no surprise that your AGK can't do damage in first 2 rounds.

Wind main... I guess you run clones? Shisui loves clones to reset mystery. Did you try using wind main with gakido, EGK, AGK, flower guard and reset mystery? That's 2 immune 3 debuff clearers...




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  • selyl On 2018-10-16 12:51:35
  • what drama? If it's not true you can call it drama. But if it's true what do you call it?


    You mean shisui can 1v2 agk + egk in arena not shocking enough for you ? fk, people are stupd nowadays and they will take whatever you give them. Maybe I will make a video and show how funny it is

lol like you attiude

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but your thread going to be deleted for cover up

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  • selyl On 2018-10-17 17:47:08
  • So now you want to use 35k coupon fight 12k coupon but cannot win, now you also want to have higher initiative,


    Why not bring the whole six path team in about 90k cp, madara six path, Naruto six path ,sasuke six path , that will surely win.


    lol.

Are you able to read what i wrote? I said that i win always but when shisui is paired with itachi susano'o, where i win the same if i own initiative, but not if i don't own it (itachi susano'o is worth way more than 35k...)




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  • selyl On 2018-10-17 18:58:57
  • How about 2 expensive ninjas. If 2 more expensive ninjas cannot win a single less expensive ninja isn't shocking , I think your brain isn't working. Also, next time I get the most expensive ninja like madara six path, and few other random ninjas, I see how you want to win me and the loser should pull down his pants.


    Also, does it matter who the 3rd or main? The point is the cost is way too high to lose to lower cost. Don't try to console yourself by saying what strategy game. They left shisui op for a reason which I already stated.


    I am not gonna waste time and answer your every single question when you only need to properly follow the answers that is already in this thread.


    I have used gakido or sakura whether wind main or h2o main, as long as you use AGK+EGK, you cannot beat shisui + anbu with common ROW.


    Next you gonna tell me madara 5k. Nice, now we have 35k coupon + 15k = 50k.


    Sometimes I think you people are...….bl, well if you cannot even see some bugs in the game, what can I expect?

As i said somewhere else itachi sb + kurenai sb + han and water main hard counter any shisui common team and is a FULL F2P lineup and with initiative advantage counters also the itachi susano'o, madara, shisui team if itachi is in front of madara (not 100% but a 60% of the times does it)




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