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On 2018-10-16 12:31:52Show All PostsDescending Order
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If you put shisui 1 vs 2 Agk+ Egk in arena , you know who will win? Yes it's shisui lol. Don't believe? Need me to make a video? lol.


This game have serious issue and instead of balancing it, all you do is delete threads? Way to go tencent.


You people have so little life you like to play whatever game people give you? You people like to encourage rubbish game?




ok. lool





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On 2018-10-16 12:27:11Show All Posts
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hehehe :D

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On 2018-10-16 12:51:35Show All Posts
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what drama? If it's not true you can call it drama. But if it's true what do you call it?


You mean shisui can 1v2 agk + egk in arena not shocking enough for you ? fk, people are stupd nowadays and they will take whatever you give them. Maybe I will make a video and show how funny it is




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On 2018-10-16 13:02:07Show All Posts
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  • Oujingbing On 2018-10-16 12:57:42
  • Well thats what I once received. Delete my post then say dont entice drama. I guess its drama so all of this thread is a drama.

Well, that's how they keep their people oppressed in communism even school students, don't support prc games people , you will only come to regret it one day.

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On 2018-10-16 17:03:23Show All Posts
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aiya don't be stupd la, angel konan + earth grudge together 35k cant beat one single ninja 12k, where is the brain? I question myself seriously if I continue to play, lool

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On 2018-10-16 23:42:42Show All Posts
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1st round : shisui dodge agk's standard attack. But gets hit by mystery of earth grudge kakuzu egk. And also gets hit by egk's standard attack. shisui attacks with standard attack.



2nd round : agk mystery lands on shisui but standard attack dodged by shisui. shisui uses mystery on egk. shisui attacks.


3rd round : shisui dodges agk standard attack , agk n egk gets hit by shisui. egk in coma, cant heal.


do I need to go on? agk will die first by ignite. egk will forever be in coma by shisui koto. 3 rd cd, 2 rd chaos



I can make 2 main fighting by themselves at bottom row without bothering the 3 of them. fire sleep vs. lightning calm mind.




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On 2018-10-17 00:08:18Show All Posts
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  • SomeoneRandom On 2018-10-17 00:04:22
  • This is not a 1vs2 game. It is 4vs4. What about the other ninja in the team? Or do you mean that shisui, agk and egk were the last ones alive? In this case in which round did everyone else die? Because if it is round 3+ then agk would have chakra buff, and unless shisui was left with full hp it is unthinkable that he didn't die by her and kakuzu's mystery and standard.

I cant believe after explaining so simply I still need to go on. you have no idea how fast konan dies, and no, she will definitely die before shisui. u guys have fun.


btw 35k is their coupon cost and shisui is 8k-12k. The difference is....at least 23k, you slowly figure....lol




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On 2018-10-17 01:09:48Show All Posts
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  • Pupsiiiii On 2018-10-17 00:41:50
  • AGK is very squishy for a position 1 ninja. Which is why most people play her with a main.

    But srsly, if you wanna conquer your shisui trauma, just replace EGK with Masked Man.


she probably was nerf becuz op, and girls in china prefer to play LM with shisui and anbu itachi, it's easier to play, and so we get this today.



The whole point is , learn to get better deals in life people , don't say yes in life becuz you are told to, you guys deserve better. Rich people will always tell you to work for them in disguise of a job and they won't tell you how rich they are behind your back. Tencent have 300 billion usd, I am sure they can do better......like just simply nerf shisui or buff agk, but hey it was about 3 months ago I suggested.



Things don't just go balance becuz you put 4v4 together. Games like LoL n dota spend unlimited time n millions to balance their champions every week. goodnight cute people. I know some of you are little girls that must be very adorable.




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On 2018-10-17 13:20:44Show All Posts
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  • HiddenBoss On 2018-10-17 09:55:19
  • First, main character will always bother 3 of them since shisui hits 2 units, so chances are that main character on AGK + EGK side will get hit.

    Second, I will show you a better case of the fight.

    1st round: Kakuzu uses mystery and does standard attack, shisui dodges it. Shisui attacks. Agk combos and chases, shisui gets immobile.

    2nd round: Shisui is immobile. Kon*es mystery(has 20% nin buff and tag). Kakuzu attacks, shisui dodges it. Konan combos and chase again, mystery cd is now 2 rounds instead of 3.

    3rd round: base on my knowledge about debuff, I'm pretty sure Shisui is still immobile at this round, but I still need experienced players to confirm this. Kakuzu attacks, Shisui dodges, Konan combos and chases again. Now she has mystery (2 round cd on 2nd round reduced by 1 when moving to 3rd round, then reduced by 1 due to combo), of course she will use it (40% nin buff and tag)

    4th round: Barrier is gone, Shisui is free. He wants to use mystery on Kakuzu, but Kakuzu says "Nope". Shisui gets interupted by Kakuzu mystery. The battle goes on, Shisui keeps getting controlled by Konan.

    Here you go. You just need to practice using them and a bit of luck in the fight. And if you're owning both AGK+EGK, I'll assume that you have enough resource (coupons) to get materials to increase initiative. The rest depends on your skills, if you can't win, don't blame the game or other people, blame yourself because you're not good enough (or you're so unlucky).

so you need 3 ninjas to beat one shisui ? hahaha.


Yup, That's about right. lool.

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On 2018-10-17 14:41:37Show All Posts
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  • HiddenBoss On 2018-10-17 14:14:11
  • No, it's a 1v2 fight between Shisui and AGK+EGK, leaving out main character because they will ruin the fight. Of course, it's a theory only since we haven't got no-main arena yet. Where in my reply did you see the 3rd ninja? And the only reason that I made this unfair match is to prove that Shisui alone does not always win against AGK+EGK as you said, sometimes he wins, sometimes he loses. The same for all ninjas in this game. Just accept that fact. Also, if you feel that you can never win shisui in a 1v2 fight with AGK+EGK, I would suggest normal neji (3 star) + kurenai. Finally, I just want to remind you that you still have 2 more options for ninjas to counter Shisui lineup (whole lineup, not Shisui only). Pick your ninjas and choose talents wisely.

I guess you don't have Agk to know that...….she need help to immobile ninja.

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On 2018-10-17 14:52:02Show All Posts
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  • Oujingbing On 2018-10-17 14:36:28
  • Lets see if shisui can still win AGk and EGk outside arena. I bet shisui shall be 1 shotted in AGk alone.

cutie, I can tell you that you will be surprised at her damage......especially when opponent have 100% resistance ROW. You will be scratching him, which shisui koto will do more dmg to poor konan with ignite.


You think I came here to say something wo thinking through first?


Whatever happens in arena should reflect what happens outside. Unless opponent make mistakes you will follow arena. We are obviously talking about same power. Only main difference is the treasure tools n ability scrolls you use in which this case there is no variation. LM shisui will still win no matter what you do.

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On 2018-10-17 14:54:22Show All Posts
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  • HiddenBoss On 2018-10-17 14:48:37
  • Yes, I don't have agk. But she can cause knockdown with standard attack and apply immobile through the chase by herself.

you typed so much you forgot shisui dodge

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On 2018-10-17 15:06:23Show All Posts
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what happens if Agk didn't trigger immobile? You think it's high chance? Nah. You want to immobile hoping it trigger every round? That's really optimistic.


So let's say if it trigger by chance , are you telling me I should spend a much higher cost ninjas to bet on luck to win much lower cost ninja? That sounds about right too




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On 2018-10-17 15:22:36Show All Posts
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lmao .


Even if I indulge you , what do you think will happen 9 out of 10 battles? shisui koto fail? I played like 100 rounds in arena in recent months I cannot remember if I seen that. lool.

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On 2018-10-17 15:40:37Show All Posts
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  • MrXct On 2018-10-17 03:04:34
  • I'll just assume you are trolling because nothing you said makes sense. I'm gonna reply anyway, I am so bored now.

    1. She was nerf bcs op? like, what do you mean? ... what this got to do with girls in china? since this is global version.

    2. Your 2nd paragraph is just ugh ... Learn to understand that no one forced you anything, no one forced you to spend anything, no one forced you to get agk/egk. You just basically said "make the ninja I own become stronger", with sugarcoat.

    3. You either don't understand what balance means or never played the games you mentioned. Would be nice to see what aspect of this game you think have to be changed to make it balanced. Well I doubt you'll answer anyway.


    ....

    So, I ask you:

    1. What was the ninja's condition when 1v2 happened, like how many health left.

    2. What's your lineup?

    3. What's your enemy's lineup?

ok I will reply u then, lool


qns

1. She was nerf bcs op? like, what do you mean? ... what this got to do with girls in china? since this is global version.

2. Your 2nd paragraph is just ugh ... Learn to understand that no one forced you anything, no one forced you to spend anything, no one forced you to get agk/egk. You just basically said "make the ninja I own become stronger", with sugarcoat.

3. You either don't understand what balance means or never played the games you mentioned. Would be nice to see what aspect of this game you think have to be changed to make it balanced. Well I doubt you'll answer anyway.


Ans,

1. It's a culture of china you got to understand. You mean you dk we follow their patch?

2. So getting both of them for 35k, I cant feedback when I lost to 12k, - 23k coupon - difference which takes at least half a year to save and a huge amount even for spenders, what is the point of this game? You need to ask yourself to understand.

3. Well , that is exactly where you are wrong , cuz I do have solutions. And for now I will type only 2.


a.) shisui koto should be 4 round cd. Perma chaos with dodge + attack 2 unit + ignite 2 unit? The only thing short from a Saiyan is that shisui cant fly. (Seiyl 2018)


b.) EGK heal should bypass ignite. If you reattach limbs, you should always gain some health. He is a monster in the anime but hes like a little chicken in this game which his mystery cannot even kill a 3/4 life clone, EVEN with konan buff in arena. What happens when the buff is over? Don't make me laugh. Few times he cant kill a ninja with little life left with his mystery I bet the opponent is laughing.

He cost too much to be too useless.




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On 2018-10-17 17:37:48Show All Posts
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Well , even if you need 45k coupon Agk+Egk breakthrough to beat 15k shisui , do you think you can really win in 1 v 2 always?


It only takes for you to miss immobile one round for you to be in eternal genjutsu and forfeit both of your life. hahahaha.

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On 2018-10-17 17:47:08Show All Posts
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-10-17 17:33:23
  • Yeah, is what i pointed out too.

So now you want to use 35k coupon fight 12k coupon but cannot win, now you also want to have higher initiative,


Why not bring the whole six path team in about 90k cp, madara six path, Naruto six path ,sasuke six path , that will surely win.


lol.

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On 2018-10-17 18:32:13Show All Posts
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Only that Angel Konan + a common ninja like Ningendo will probably still lose. Now we are going into a common "specific " ninja to counter shisui. Do you use ningendo personally to get six path in arena?


The whole point is on first post. #37 and #56.


kakuzu should be more useful than this. Currently he is only a burden that is a laughing stock, a huge chicken or a peac0ck, or a tribal man lool.


breakthrough or no breakthrough he needs to be useful, what kind of damage does he have now? if not why did they release him ?


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a.) shisui koto should be 4 round cd. Permana chaos with dodge + attack 2 unit + ignite 2 unit? The only thing short from a Saiyan is that shisui cant fly. (Seiyl 2018)


b.) EGK heal should bypass ignite. If you reattach limbs, you should always gain some health. He is a monster in the anime but hes like a little chicken in this game which his mystery cannot even kill a 3/4 life clone, EVEN with konan buff in arena. What happens when the buff is over? Don't make me laugh. Few times he cant kill a ninja with little life left with his mystery I bet the opponent is laughing.

He cost too much to be too useless.


This doesn't make sense to you?






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On 2018-10-17 18:58:57Show All Posts
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  • SomeoneRandom On 2018-10-17 18:29:58
  • Lol, someone here bought an expensive ninja and thinks he should be able to beat everyone?

    This is a strategy game, not who has the flashiest ninjas game. You can buy the most expensive ninja, but if someone has a counter f2p team they will win.

    Also, you still didnt tell us who your third ninja and main are.

How about 2 expensive ninjas. If 2 more expensive ninjas cannot win a single less expensive ninja isn't shocking , I think your brain isn't working. Also, next time I get the most expensive ninja like madara six path, and few other random ninjas, I see how you want to win me and the loser should pull down his pants.


Also, does it matter who the 3rd or main? The point is the cost is way too high to lose to lower cost. Don't try to console yourself by saying what strategy game. They left shisui op for a reason which I already stated.


I am not gonna waste time and answer your every single question when you only need to properly follow the answers that is already in this thread.


I have used gakido or sakura whether wind main or h2o main, as long as you use AGK+EGK, you cannot beat shisui + anbu with common ROW.


Next you gonna tell me madara 5k. Nice, now we have 35k coupon + 15k = 50k.


Sometimes I think you people are...….bl, well if you cannot even see some bugs in the game, what can I expect?

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On 2018-10-17 19:20:20Show All Posts
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  • Kuebiko On 2018-10-17 18:52:24
  • i did in fact use ningendo to get to 6 paths for 4 months before i drew ay3.


    post #1: yes please make a video. you're barking up the wrong tree this is oasisgames not tencent. i don't face intense balancing issues in the game so ig this whole topic isnt particularly important to me

    post #37: agk was never nerfed. im seeing a lot of trust issues against rich people? man, who hurt you? again, you're barking up the wrong tree; tencent couldnt care less about the EN version. you're cute, there's no need to bring *ism into this topic.

    post #56: i doubt you've ever set foot in china much less experienced their culture gg.u also ignored all his questions in your reply.


    i've yet to see you give a straightforward answer in these posts, so once again i'm left wondering if you yourself understand what's happening, and what you're asking. the fact that you're addressing this to tencent on the oasis forum...makes me question your sanity even more.


    so we've established grudge kakuzu doesnt work for you, i guess? and you're salty becuase you have kakuzu and he isnt working for you. that's cool. go get another ninja. go get another team.


    heals don't work through ignite. that's just how the game works. you can't map everything in the anime exactly and this is something you have to learn to accept. games are not an accurate representation of the anime/real world. if you think they are, well...that's another strike against your mental capacity.


    in the end, if you're salty, just don't play. if the game doesnt meet your expectations, leave. changing ninja kits is not up to oasis. go complain to tencent. there are forums on huoyingqq where you can do this, instead of taking out your frustrations here, where no one cares.


No straightforward answers? Are you angry? or just partial blind? So what is the forum discussion for?


Well, with that mentality of yours, that is exactly why the game doesn't capture enough people.


"heals don't work through ignite. that's just how the game works. you can't map everything in the anime exactly and this is something you have to learn to accept. games are not an accurate representation of the anime/real world. if you think they are, well...that's another strike against your mental "


So you are the coder? You work for tencent? If not how you know? If not, limiting games in such a capacity? Well, that must reflects a lot about your mental capacity.



"in the end, if you're salty, just don't play. if the game doesnt meet your expectations, leave. changing ninja kits is not up to oasis. go complain to tencent. there are forums on huoyingqq where you can do this, instead of taking out your frustrations here, where no one cares."



Did I say it was up to oasis? Guess whose slapping himself trying to act smart, with his mental capacity. Where no one cares? How many people have you seen saying shisui is op in this forum? You mean oasis cannot even find a simple way to simply feedback to tencent just reach their IT department ? Or you think instead of talking on forum I should call to tencent about it?


Most importantly if it's not important to you , then why the fk are you hijacking this thread with your unconstructive nonsense?






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