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On 2018-08-20 13:00:55Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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So with the introduction of Sun/Moon shops, advanced refine runes have become much much easier to obtain and reduces the usefulness of level freezing by quite a bit. So just to give some context to my situation, I am a F2P and currently have 63k power at level 78. On average I score 2nd or 3rd on most Sage battlefields with a few rare 1sts. This leads me to wonder if I should stop level freezing as I miss out on a decent amount of sun coins (9-tails/Cat/Rescue, and this is assuming they fix 9-tails in the next hotfix btw) which may actually cause me to lose more advanced refines than I would if I claim those sun coins. Any help would be appreciated :D opinions from both sides are welcome!

Thanks in advance!

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On 2018-08-20 13:05:06Show this Author Only
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Im also in a dilemma, better compute how many sun coins you get doing all the events, convert it into adv refines and then it might be worth it




This post was last edited by GenjiGenjuro on 2018-08-20 13:05:45.
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On 2018-08-20 13:13:06Show this Author Only
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level up to 80, then freeze again XD


tbh i level freeze, but i still do cat quiz and i've started doing RJ too. i'm not going to bother with tail until they fix the rewards. you can still freeze if you decide to do RJ and CQ. like sure, your exp will be growing faster now, but it's still freezing if you don't sweep instance/ninja exam, collect froggies etc. it's more like a casual freeze lol. ninja exam really contributes the most to exp gain.


atm i'm hard freezing cos i don't have enough coins to strengthen my equipment when i level up huhuhuhu


i wouldn't hurry with the levelling tho, unless 63k is good enough to compete in the top sage bracket in your cluster. so like,,, i guess what i'm trying to say is that you should age with grace,,,?

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On 2018-08-20 13:37:57Show this Author Only
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  • GenjiGenjuro On 2018-08-20 13:05:06
  • Im also in a dilemma, better compute how many sun coins you get doing all the events, convert it into adv refines and then it might be worth it

Here's just a quick rundown of my situation, could be different for yours

Currently:

Sage Battlefield (4): 800 Sun Coins + 3 Adv Refines (Assuming 4th place)

33 Adv Refine Runes


With Ninetails/Rescue/Cat Quiz (Assuming Fixed Ninetails)

Sage Battlefield (4): ~400 Sun Coins (1600 Coins)

Nine Tails (4): ~250 Sun Coins (1000 Coins, Assuming 4th place or lower)

Cat Quiz (1): ~300

Rescue (2): ~800

~25 Adv Refine Runes


This is though assuming worst case scenario, if you do better in Sage or Ninetails than expected it could net closer to 30 Adv Refines

Edit: I forgot about the 5800 Sun limit, this limits you to exactly 25 Advanced Refine Runes (Not counting the ones you get from Matsuri) before they get transferred to strange stones.

However, would like to add that by not freezing you also get to do Ninja Exams which gives magatamas and could reduce the difference. As well as allows you to do Ninja test which give moon coins now which could also be an incentive.





This post was last edited by SSirus on 2018-08-20 13:49:07.
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On 2018-08-20 13:44:11Show this Author Only
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if the ninetails sun coins are fixed I will not freeze anymore, its true that I wont be getting enough adv refines but in return you will get heaps of coins for the ninetails, 3 daily myoboko gift, heaps of magatams from exam, more sun coins etc, since im lvl 94, Im on the 2nd highest sage bracket,

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On 2018-08-20 16:22:24Show this Author Only
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You get around 900~1200 sun coins for each sage. But for the sake of quick math. Let's assume you get 1k for each sage world and matsuri. That's alone would be 5k/week (3 sage 2 matsuri). Then you just need 2 RJ to reach the cap.

So my asnwer will be yes people who already stand at the top of the food chain in their bracket. But not worth it for people who just start to freeze.




This post was last edited by Hot Male on 2018-08-20 16:23:28.
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On 2018-08-20 16:27:33Show this Author Only
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Hey don't forget Matsuri gives Sun too:) around 1,1k if u could do all win

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On 2018-08-20 20:12:45Show this Author Only
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  • Hot Male On 2018-08-20 16:22:24
  • You get around 900~1200 sun coins for each sage. But for the sake of quick math. Let's assume you get 1k for each sage world and matsuri. That's alone would be 5k/week (3 sage 2 matsuri). Then you just need 2 RJ to reach the cap.

    So my asnwer will be yes people who already stand at the top of the food chain in their bracket. But not worth it for people who just start to freeze.

Before used to be worth to level freeze if you were able to be 1st/2nd/3rd in swb every time, now is worth to freeze only if you are sure to be 1st over 50% of the times and 2nd the other times.

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On 2018-08-20 20:17:13Show this Author Only
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  • SSirus On 2018-08-20 13:37:57
  • Here's just a quick rundown of my situation, could be different for yours

    Currently:

    Sage Battlefield (4): 800 Sun Coins + 3 Adv Refines (Assuming 4th place)

    33 Adv Refine Runes


    With Ninetails/Rescue/Cat Quiz (Assuming Fixed Ninetails)

    Sage Battlefield (4): ~400 Sun Coins (1600 Coins)

    Nine Tails (4): ~250 Sun Coins (1000 Coins, Assuming 4th place or lower)

    Cat Quiz (1): ~300

    Rescue (2): ~800

    ~25 Adv Refine Runes


    This is though assuming worst case scenario, if you do better in Sage or Ninetails than expected it could net closer to 30 Adv Refines

    Edit: I forgot about the 5800 Sun limit, this limits you to exactly 25 Advanced Refine Runes (Not counting the ones you get from Matsuri) before they get transferred to strange stones.

    However, would like to add that by not freezing you also get to do Ninja Exams which gives magatamas and could reduce the difference. As well as allows you to do Ninja test which give moon coins now which could also be an incentive.


Misses matsuri that gives up to 1100 per week and miss all the moon coins you get in tis and ninja test that are free bells or advanced threads. That said i still beat every 140k powers with higher initiative than me by being 160k (i would be 140k if i did like them and overstack only 1 move by completely forgetting the other 3). Do not overvalue too much move1 initiative. Is important but up to a certain point only.

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On 2018-08-20 23:57:03Show this Author Only
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  • richardsyah On 2018-08-20 16:27:33
  • Hey don't forget Matsuri gives Sun too:) around 1,1k if u could do all win

I purposely left out Matsuri, the reason behind this is because both level freezers and non-freezers participate in this event, thereby making the no difference in the final equation

Also wanted to add that they just fixed Nine-tails...

(E.g with Matsuri:

Currently:

Sage Battlefield (4): 800 Sun Coins + 3 Adv Refines (Assuming 4th place)

Matsuri (2): 1000 Sun Coins (2000 Coins, Assuming minimum 3 wins)

33 Adv Refine Runes -> 46 Adv Refine Runes

With Ninetails/Rescue/Cat Quiz (Assuming Fixed Ninetails)

Sage Battlefield (4): ~400 Sun Coins (1600 Coins)

Matsuri (2): 1000 Sun Coins (2000 Coins, Assuming minimum 3 wins)

Nine Tails (4): ~250 Sun Coins (1000 Coins, Assuming 4th place or lower)

Cat Quiz (1): ~300

Rescue (2): ~800

~25 Adv Refine Runes -> 38 Adv Refine Runes,


This is to show that there is no difference (Difference of 8 stays consistent) between the two numbers

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On 2018-08-20 23:59:37Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-08-20 20:17:13
  • Misses matsuri that gives up to 1100 per week and miss all the moon coins you get in tis and ninja test that are free bells or advanced threads. That said i still beat every 140k powers with higher initiative than me by being 160k (i would be 140k if i did like them and overstack only 1 move by completely forgetting the other 3). Do not overvalue too much move1 initiative. Is important but up to a certain point only.

I actually didn't forget about ninja test, I included it in the last part and for TI, I forgot about one for hard freezers as I'm lvl 78 so I still do Ti's as they give minimal exp, as for the Matsuri part, see above :D

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