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Events only having Two Chimes and Pile of Chimes...where are regular Bells?

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When we'll be able to get regular green Bells? Events only provide pointless Two Chimes and Pile of Chimes, but not the basic Bells. Why?




This post was last edited by smaddeus on 2018-08-10 03:48:49.
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On 2018-08-10 05:35:33Show this Author Only
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Was wondering the same last week

there needs to be more options to obtain just singular bells, but at least this week they're redeemable in the Colorful Balloons event :)

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On 2018-08-10 06:00:46Show this Author Only
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For the same reason why they made the Myoboku Oils recharge/spend only (which they technically are still.....barely redeemable...or in very limited supply). Its for the almighty dollar. They will drag it out for a month before they start doing decent redeems or shop updates. I mean, just look how its priced in the balloon event. 800 points just to get 40? You will barely get 400-500 points with the 77 shuriken as it is.

Hope that answers it for ya.

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On 2018-08-10 10:52:09Show this Author Only
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  • Swisidniak On 2018-08-10 05:35:33
  • Was wondering the same last week

    there needs to be more options to obtain just singular bells, but at least this week they're redeemable in the Colorful Balloons event :)

Yupz! You can find them in the "Colorful Balloons Event".


Like with all new features, the items will become available in future events. I would highly recommend to head over to the "Event Feedback Thread", as it definitely helps us out a lot. You can find it here.


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On 2018-08-10 16:30:13Show this Author Only
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  • Jiburiru On 2018-08-10 10:52:09
  • Yupz! You can find them in the "Colorful Balloons Event".


    Like with all new features, the items will become available in future events. I would highly recommend to head over to the "Event Feedback Thread", as it definitely helps us out a lot. You can find it here.


    ~Jib

Ok, so for 225 ingots in konoha gift shop i get 10 blue and 2 purple. With 225 ingots here i get 3 green bells.

Is like selling common threads at 10 times the cost of mediun threads or basic refinement runes at 10 times the cost of medium refinement runes.

Something is blatantly off, don't you think too?





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On 2018-08-10 19:32:04Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-08-10 16:30:13
  • Ok, so for 225 ingots in konoha gift shop i get 10 blue and 2 purple. With 225 ingots here i get 3 green bells.

    Is like selling common threads at 10 times the cost of mediun threads or basic refinement runes at 10 times the cost of medium refinement runes.

    Something is blatantly off, don't you think too?


Yea, your math and logic are definitely off here.

You are compare 2 total different events that don't even work in the same way. It's fine if you compare Konoha Shop with Outlet for example because they work the same way aka you spend coupon/ingot directly to buy stuffs.

But shuriken balloon are not a shop type event, it's a rebate event with a little f2p friendly feature. So it's mean you spend your ingots somewhere else and get rewards for what you spent THEN you get EXTRA stuffs from shuriken balloon, you don't pay DIRECTLY for stuffs in shuriken balloon.




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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-08-10 16:30:13
  • Ok, so for 225 ingots in konoha gift shop i get 10 blue and 2 purple. With 225 ingots here i get 3 green bells.

    Is like selling common threads at 10 times the cost of mediun threads or basic refinement runes at 10 times the cost of medium refinement runes.

    Something is blatantly off, don't you think too?


3 green bells and the items you chose to purchase using the ingots. You can think of Colorful Balloons as another ingot spending rebate event but it also allows non-spenders to participate in the event.

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  • Hot Male On 2018-08-10 19:32:04
  • Yea, your math and logic are definitely off here.

    You are compare 2 total different events that don't even work in the same way. It's fine if you compare Konoha Shop with Outlet for example because they work the same way aka you spend coupon/ingot directly to buy stuffs.

    But shuriken balloon are not a shop type event, it's a rebate event with a little f2p friendly feature. So it's mean you spend your ingots somewhere else and get rewards for what you spent THEN you get EXTRA stuffs from shuriken balloon, you don't pay DIRECTLY for stuffs in shuriken balloon.

you would be right in your logic if was actually possible to buy directly green bells somewhere, but since is not possible then if you want to buy them directly then you are compelled to spend that quantity of ingots.

Doesn't matter that you get them as a collateral rebate, right now if you want 1 green bell you are compelled in recharging 70-80 ingots and also in spending them in things that require you to spend ingot only (that are very limited and generally bad options if you have a ton of coupons hoarded and you do not want to spend them now...)

That said, even if was possible to directly buy them somewhere (so if you were right in your explanation) they would still cost too much for what they are worth (1 charm pack costs 60 points, how 1 single green bell may cost 40? when 10 blue + 2 purple are worth as much as 2 charm packs? Means that in the best case scenario 1 single blue, that is the higher tier version of the green, is worth 10 of that currency and this is by considering the purple as if they had the same value as blues (60*2/12 = 10). How the lower tier item may be worth 4 times the higher tier one?).




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On 2018-08-10 22:30:34Show this Author Only
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  • Exvius On 2018-08-10 19:52:08
  • 3 green bells and the items you chose to purchase using the ingots. You can think of Colorful Balloons as another ingot spending rebate event but it also allows non-spenders to participate in the event.

as I said in the reply to jinga.

1 charm pack is worth 125 coupons in the common shop, but in many events they are available for 100 coupons, so lets consider this one the value of the item.

In time limited recruitment event 1 deluxe bell pack costed around 250 coupons (that we may consider the basic value of the item, so konoha gift shop actually had it on display with a 10% discount).

So is acceptable to consider that 1 deluxe bell pack is worth as much as 2.5 charm packs.

This means 150 currency of this colored baloon event are worth 10 blue bells and 2 purple bells.

Even if we considered blue and purple bells on the same value tier (that is like evaluating medium thread as much as advanced thread...) means that 1 blue or purple bell is worth 12 of this currency.

Green bells are the lowest tier so at most they are worth as much as a blue bell (but is reasonable to think that they are less worth than them).

So the acceptable price in this currency for 1 green bell is at most 12 (but more likely something around 6-9).

Since 1 green bell costs 40 means that in this event those bells are on display with a price that is in the best case scenario 3.5 times higher than their real value (but more likely 5-7 times).


If we evalue the fragments on display in this redemption shop by using the same method we see that the value of them is:


edo roshi 200 coupons

edo deidara 217 coupons

sasuke susano'o 533 coupons.


as we can see all those evaluations are in accord with the average value of them showed in other events (with at most a difference of +/- 10%)

myoboku grasps, instead, are evalued 25 coupons, so they are actually here with a +100% value in comparison with lucky board and with a +40% in comparison with great plates.








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  • Garv On 2018-08-10 22:30:34
  • as I said in the reply to jinga.

    1 charm pack is worth 125 coupons in the common shop, but in many events they are available for 100 coupons, so lets consider this one the value of the item.

    In time limited recruitment event 1 deluxe bell pack costed around 250 coupons (that we may consider the basic value of the item, so konoha gift shop actually had it on display with a 10% discount).

    So is acceptable to consider that 1 deluxe bell pack is worth as much as 2.5 charm packs.

    This means 150 currency of this colored baloon event are worth 10 blue bells and 2 purple bells.

    Even if we considered blue and purple bells on the same value tier (that is like evaluating medium thread as much as advanced thread...) means that 1 blue or purple bell is worth 12 of this currency.

    Green bells are the lowest tier so at most they are worth as much as a blue bell (but is reasonable to think that they are less worth than them).

    So the acceptable price in this currency for 1 green bell is at most 12 (but more likely something around 6-9).

    Since 1 green bell costs 40 means that in this event those bells are on display with a price that is in the best case scenario 3.5 times higher than their real value (but more likely 5-7 times).


    If we evalue the fragments on display in this redemption shop by using the same method we see that the value of them is:


    edo roshi 200 coupons

    edo deidara 217 coupons

    sasuke susano'o 533 coupons.


    as we can see all those evaluations are in accord with the average value of them showed in other events (with at most a difference of +/- 10%)

    myoboku grasps, instead, are evalued 25 coupons, so they are actually here with a +100% value in comparison with lucky board and with a +40% in comparison with great plates.





Please do fill up the event feedback form if you haven't yet. Feedback like yours will definitely help.

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  • Exvius On 2018-08-11 12:23:15
  • Please do fill up the event feedback form if you haven't yet. Feedback like yours will definitely help.

ty, i'll do it (as usual) :-)

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