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On 2018-07-17 00:49:56Show this Author Only
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  • Zathroth On 2018-07-17 00:20:47
  • You need to understand whether things are rushed or not, the gap between players will stay. Quick example, both players started playing at the same time: our fellow ftp does everything everyday, plunders, convoys. He manages to get 4k cp during a month. Our friendly ptw does the same thing, but also recharged for monthly card, has jonin medal and buys naruto froggy once during a month. Our ptw gets additional 16k coupons. Ftp got 4k, while ptw got 20k. It's an example, dont argue with me "how can i get that much". The point is, just this little thing allows paying players be 5 months ahead of ftp players. You will never be able to compete with those players, if you both keep playing with same efficiency. Just deal with it.


    Now whether new content is rushed or not, it doesnt change the fact, that ftp cant afford anything. While adding new raw power functions like 2nd stage of myoboku allows paying players to get that power faster, ftp can get it too. Both parties need to spend exactly the same ammount of resources, which obviously favours paying players, because they have more coupons. The thing that is happening right now, namely releases of non impactful ninjas (edo jinchuurikis) actually favours ftp, since those 16k coupons that could be spent towards power are "wasted". Although, the more ninjas are released, the more likely we are to receive another meta changer, which leads to first conclusion- you cant compete with p2w.


    Now from game's perspective, rushing content doesnt make sense at all. It should be steadily implemented, yes, but neither rushed or delayed. You need to find that sweet balance, where players get new stuff but dont get bored, because there's one minor update every 1.5 months. Adding things faster will result in initial happiness of the playerbase, but will quickly disappear when the game will run out of content (and it will).


    The only feature (in my opinion) that should be rushed is implementation of Y skills and adding all basic ninjas(sannins, konoha gennins, basic akatsuki), since that both provides just a few viable ninja substitutions, as well as a reason and a goal to work towards (pokemon-skillbook collection). As long as it doesnt include ones that make top meta ninjas (looking at you susanoo sasuke, danzo & ay) this is the only feature that benefits ftp first and foremost. Updated shop would be a nice addition too, but thats 5.0 feature (if we receive same stuff as Germany), but those will benefit paying players more, because they can get more coins.


    Authors of those ftp threads seriously need to understand this- you cant compete with paying players. The same way as casual spenders cant compete with heavy spenders. If you want to be competitive, you need a certain bracket of people- compete with your other ftp fellows or find something else that makes you enjoy the game. Trust me, finding such thing makes the game a lot more pleasant :-)

You also need to understand, there is also a limit that a P2W player can get and that a F2P can get. And that gap will eventually close.

Refines, Charms, Purifies, magatama, Myoboku stuff, Battle Armor are all limited to a set amount of power they can give. Which F2P can eventually max out on while P2W can max out sooner.

Ninjas however, some are Ingot only either on release or Ingot only period.

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On 2018-07-17 00:53:31Show this Author Only
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Yet can u really get that? even it takes time . did u still play when it come? Why not just play for fun for now ? either they release it or not those Bloody big casher still dominating the game .




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On 2018-07-17 02:05:55Show this Author Only
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2018-07-17 00:49:56
  • You also need to understand, there is also a limit that a P2W player can get and that a F2P can get. And that gap will eventually close.

    Refines, Charms, Purifies, magatama, Myoboku stuff, Battle Armor are all limited to a set amount of power they can give. Which F2P can eventually max out on while P2W can max out sooner.

    Ninjas however, some are Ingot only either on release or Ingot only period.

Limit? Please. https://youtube.com/watch?v=BS5-CqmhNMc

But if you consider mathematics- you are right. If the time goes to infinity, the gap will close.

In reality- it wont. A random ftp (4 ref/swb) would need to farm swb for 50 years to finish refining.

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On 2018-07-17 03:45:14Show this Author Only
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  • Zathroth On 2018-07-17 02:05:55
  • Limit? Please. https://youtube.com/watch?v=BS5-CqmhNMc

    But if you consider mathematics- you are right. If the time goes to infinity, the gap will close.

    In reality- it wont. A random ftp (4 ref/swb) would need to farm swb for 50 years to finish refining.

>Implying that is the only way to get adv refines.


Also I'm f2p and I average around 9-13 Adv Refines each sage.




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On 2018-07-17 05:31:05Show this Author Only
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  • Zathroth On 2018-07-17 00:20:47
  • You need to understand whether things are rushed or not, the gap between players will stay. Quick example, both players started playing at the same time: our fellow ftp does everything everyday, plunders, convoys. He manages to get 4k cp during a month. Our friendly ptw does the same thing, but also recharged for monthly card, has jonin medal and buys naruto froggy once during a month. Our ptw gets additional 16k coupons. Ftp got 4k, while ptw got 20k. It's an example, dont argue with me "how can i get that much". The point is, just this little thing allows paying players be 5 months ahead of ftp players. You will never be able to compete with those players, if you both keep playing with same efficiency. Just deal with it.


    Now whether new content is rushed or not, it doesnt change the fact, that ftp cant afford anything. While adding new raw power functions like 2nd stage of myoboku allows paying players to get that power faster, ftp can get it too. Both parties need to spend exactly the same ammount of resources, which obviously favours paying players, because they have more coupons. The thing that is happening right now, namely releases of non impactful ninjas (edo jinchuurikis) actually favours ftp, since those 16k coupons that could be spent towards power are "wasted". Although, the more ninjas are released, the more likely we are to receive another meta changer, which leads to first conclusion- you cant compete with p2w.


    Now from game's perspective, rushing content doesnt make sense at all. It should be steadily implemented, yes, but neither rushed or delayed. You need to find that sweet balance, where players get new stuff but dont get bored, because there's one minor update every 1.5 months. Adding things faster will result in initial happiness of the playerbase, but will quickly disappear when the game will run out of content (and it will).


    The only feature (in my opinion) that should be rushed is implementation of Y skills and adding all basic ninjas(sannins, konoha gennins, basic akatsuki), since that both provides just a few viable ninja substitutions, as well as a reason and a goal to work towards (pokemon-skillbook collection). As long as it doesnt include ones that make top meta ninjas (looking at you susanoo sasuke, danzo & ay) this is the only feature that benefits ftp first and foremost. Updated shop would be a nice addition too, but thats 5.0 feature (if we receive same stuff as Germany), but those will benefit paying players more, because they can get more coins.


    Authors of those ftp threads seriously need to understand this- you cant compete with paying players. The same way as casual spenders cant compete with heavy spenders. If you want to be competitive, you need a certain bracket of people- compete with your other ftp fellows or find something else that makes you enjoy the game. Trust me, finding such thing makes the game a lot more pleasant :-)

Very well said .. Your statement is clear and real .. It is the exact thing happening in this game ..


And your last statement is like what i said above too, "And last but not the least, set your mind and always keep in mind that you are a F2P that only have limited access to the whole game .. Making yourself to understand your status will make you play much better and less hard feelings .. People who spends money can really have huge advantage, even in real life .. So don't expect to win against someone you know P2W so it will not hurt you a lot .." ..

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On 2018-07-17 18:27:21Show this Author Only
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  • Qv On 2018-07-15 00:12:47
  • With the things you said, there are some problems that i see, starting from the first line of your paragraph, if you're gonna piece this new OP ninja then where you will get the coupons you will spend for the Power you are saying .. Going all-in for power is not enough nowadays .. Even if you have a lot of power, players with 30k to 50k power less than you can easily kill you if they have a good Ninja from event .. I experienced it so many times that i face players with less power than me, but having good ninjas like Edo Deidara can easily kill me .. And if you're really F2P, you will know the frustration of having to choose what to spend and when to spend .. There is nothing such a Perfect way of spending since F2Ps always takes chances whenever they spend coupons .. Level freezing too is not an option or maybe it is but for F2P, a lot of things will be lost from freezing .. the Coupons, Magatamas and other Power-up Items that you will miss because you're avoiding the missions that gives Exp, and even if you can manage to freeze your level between 60s to 80s, it is still not possible for you to get the 1st up to 3rd place in SWBs, because we all know, within that level clusters, there's always a shark that owns 100k+ power with that level ..

30k to 50k power gap, no ninja will save you from the power gap, that is he truth mate. Lets say I have a basic blitz team , Iruka, WB asuma, earthmain, Susano Sasuke(assuming I hoarded my seals for this ninja) lets say I have 90k power and I stacked my position one, all my runes and mags and refined and charmed equips is on my Susano sasuke, the rest are just supports. Then there you are you have 60k power (as you said above that -30k-50k power) with strategic ninjas with a balanced power build, no stacked ninja. The outcome is pretty legit, you will get nuked, Susano Sasuke will hit any unit infront of your team, you get repulsed dmg and the mystrery dmg that is a crit.

Going all-in for power is not enough as you said and that is true but you are a F2p you got limited resources, let the seal scrolls do the job for getting ninjas and the rest for power in that way you wont get left behind.

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On 2018-07-17 18:36:47Show this Author Only
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  • GenjiGenjuro On 2018-07-17 18:27:21
  • 30k to 50k power gap, no ninja will save you from the power gap, that is he truth mate. Lets say I have a basic blitz team , Iruka, WB asuma, earthmain, Susano Sasuke(assuming I hoarded my seals for this ninja) lets say I have 90k power and I stacked my position one, all my runes and mags and refined and charmed equips is on my Susano sasuke, the rest are just supports. Then there you are you have 60k power (as you said above that -30k-50k power) with strategic ninjas with a balanced power build, no stacked ninja. The outcome is pretty legit, you will get nuked, Susano Sasuke will hit any unit infront of your team, you get repulsed dmg and the mystrery dmg that is a crit.

    Going all-in for power is not enough as you said and that is true but you are a F2p you got limited resources, let the seal scrolls do the job for getting ninjas and the rest for power in that way you wont get left behind.

I don't think so, i remember being beaten by someone that have 70k power, and that time my power was 100k .. I'm using Seal Scroll ninjas,while my opponent was using Ninjas from Events ..


And here on my Second Main, i remember someone i beat, actually many times, who has 90k power using Seal Scroll ninjas, while me, using Hokage Minato with only 60k power ..




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On 2018-07-17 19:10:25Show this Author Only
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  • Zathroth On 2018-07-17 00:20:47
  • You need to understand whether things are rushed or not, the gap between players will stay. Quick example, both players started playing at the same time: our fellow ftp does everything everyday, plunders, convoys. He manages to get 4k cp during a month. Our friendly ptw does the same thing, but also recharged for monthly card, has jonin medal and buys naruto froggy once during a month. Our ptw gets additional 16k coupons. Ftp got 4k, while ptw got 20k. It's an example, dont argue with me "how can i get that much". The point is, just this little thing allows paying players be 5 months ahead of ftp players. You will never be able to compete with those players, if you both keep playing with same efficiency. Just deal with it.


    Now whether new content is rushed or not, it doesnt change the fact, that ftp cant afford anything. While adding new raw power functions like 2nd stage of myoboku allows paying players to get that power faster, ftp can get it too. Both parties need to spend exactly the same ammount of resources, which obviously favours paying players, because they have more coupons. The thing that is happening right now, namely releases of non impactful ninjas (edo jinchuurikis) actually favours ftp, since those 16k coupons that could be spent towards power are "wasted". Although, the more ninjas are released, the more likely we are to receive another meta changer, which leads to first conclusion- you cant compete with p2w.


    Now from game's perspective, rushing content doesnt make sense at all. It should be steadily implemented, yes, but neither rushed or delayed. You need to find that sweet balance, where players get new stuff but dont get bored, because there's one minor update every 1.5 months. Adding things faster will result in initial happiness of the playerbase, but will quickly disappear when the game will run out of content (and it will).


    The only feature (in my opinion) that should be rushed is implementation of Y skills and adding all basic ninjas(sannins, konoha gennins, basic akatsuki), since that both provides just a few viable ninja substitutions, as well as a reason and a goal to work towards (pokemon-skillbook collection). As long as it doesnt include ones that make top meta ninjas (looking at you susanoo sasuke, danzo & ay) this is the only feature that benefits ftp first and foremost. Updated shop would be a nice addition too, but thats 5.0 feature (if we receive same stuff as Germany), but those will benefit paying players more, because they can get more coins.


    Authors of those ftp threads seriously need to understand this- you cant compete with paying players. The same way as casual spenders cant compete with heavy spenders. If you want to be competitive, you need a certain bracket of people- compete with your other ftp fellows or find something else that makes you enjoy the game. Trust me, finding such thing makes the game a lot more pleasant :-)

so true

omfg


i cannot agree more with this.



i earn approx 4k+ a month, p2ws earn as he said




if you realize the fact that it is impossible to compete with a serious p2w, you will not be bitter.

i'm f2p and i have around 100k bp, my good friend is p2w and has 80k bp but defeats me easily bc he has angel konan, kakazu eg, edo deidara and just slaughters me.

lol



it is how it is

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On 2018-07-18 01:06:08Show this Author Only
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  • Zathroth On 2018-07-17 00:20:47
  • You need to understand whether things are rushed or not, the gap between players will stay. Quick example, both players started playing at the same time: our fellow ftp does everything everyday, plunders, convoys. He manages to get 4k cp during a month. Our friendly ptw does the same thing, but also recharged for monthly card, has jonin medal and buys naruto froggy once during a month. Our ptw gets additional 16k coupons. Ftp got 4k, while ptw got 20k. It's an example, dont argue with me "how can i get that much". The point is, just this little thing allows paying players be 5 months ahead of ftp players. You will never be able to compete with those players, if you both keep playing with same efficiency. Just deal with it.


    Now whether new content is rushed or not, it doesnt change the fact, that ftp cant afford anything. While adding new raw power functions like 2nd stage of myoboku allows paying players to get that power faster, ftp can get it too. Both parties need to spend exactly the same ammount of resources, which obviously favours paying players, because they have more coupons. The thing that is happening right now, namely releases of non impactful ninjas (edo jinchuurikis) actually favours ftp, since those 16k coupons that could be spent towards power are "wasted". Although, the more ninjas are released, the more likely we are to receive another meta changer, which leads to first conclusion- you cant compete with p2w.


    Now from game's perspective, rushing content doesnt make sense at all. It should be steadily implemented, yes, but neither rushed or delayed. You need to find that sweet balance, where players get new stuff but dont get bored, because there's one minor update every 1.5 months. Adding things faster will result in initial happiness of the playerbase, but will quickly disappear when the game will run out of content (and it will).


    The only feature (in my opinion) that should be rushed is implementation of Y skills and adding all basic ninjas(sannins, konoha gennins, basic akatsuki), since that both provides just a few viable ninja substitutions, as well as a reason and a goal to work towards (pokemon-skillbook collection). As long as it doesnt include ones that make top meta ninjas (looking at you susanoo sasuke, danzo & ay) this is the only feature that benefits ftp first and foremost. Updated shop would be a nice addition too, but thats 5.0 feature (if we receive same stuff as Germany), but those will benefit paying players more, because they can get more coins.


    Authors of those ftp threads seriously need to understand this- you cant compete with paying players. The same way as casual spenders cant compete with heavy spenders. If you want to be competitive, you need a certain bracket of people- compete with your other ftp fellows or find something else that makes you enjoy the game. Trust me, finding such thing makes the game a lot more pleasant :-)

so true lol



so true that i cant stop crying in f2p

xD


i am 100k as f2p but my friend who is 85k manages to defeat me

lel

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On 2018-07-18 02:18:45Show this Author Only
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  • GenjiGenjuro On 2018-07-17 18:27:21
  • 30k to 50k power gap, no ninja will save you from the power gap, that is he truth mate. Lets say I have a basic blitz team , Iruka, WB asuma, earthmain, Susano Sasuke(assuming I hoarded my seals for this ninja) lets say I have 90k power and I stacked my position one, all my runes and mags and refined and charmed equips is on my Susano sasuke, the rest are just supports. Then there you are you have 60k power (as you said above that -30k-50k power) with strategic ninjas with a balanced power build, no stacked ninja. The outcome is pretty legit, you will get nuked, Susano Sasuke will hit any unit infront of your team, you get repulsed dmg and the mystrery dmg that is a crit.

    Going all-in for power is not enough as you said and that is true but you are a F2p you got limited resources, let the seal scrolls do the job for getting ninjas and the rest for power in that way you wont get left behind.

Fact, in SWB I lost to people who were 70k while I was 110k.

Running Kakashi Anbu Blitz with Darui, and Kurenai, LM (Kurenai being needed for some guaranteed CC) vs Kushina, Kurenai, Sailor Sakura, Water Main.

So yes, event ninjas do make a different.

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On 2018-07-18 02:56:39Show this Author Only
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  • GenjiGenjuro On 2018-07-17 18:27:21
  • 30k to 50k power gap, no ninja will save you from the power gap, that is he truth mate. Lets say I have a basic blitz team , Iruka, WB asuma, earthmain, Susano Sasuke(assuming I hoarded my seals for this ninja) lets say I have 90k power and I stacked my position one, all my runes and mags and refined and charmed equips is on my Susano sasuke, the rest are just supports. Then there you are you have 60k power (as you said above that -30k-50k power) with strategic ninjas with a balanced power build, no stacked ninja. The outcome is pretty legit, you will get nuked, Susano Sasuke will hit any unit infront of your team, you get repulsed dmg and the mystrery dmg that is a crit.

    Going all-in for power is not enough as you said and that is true but you are a F2p you got limited resources, let the seal scrolls do the job for getting ninjas and the rest for power in that way you wont get left behind.

"30k to 50k power gap, no ninja will save you from the power gap, that is he truth mate."

Screen Shot 2018-07-13 at 5

I was around 85k then, you can easily tell by hp difference, so that's more than a 40k difference. Along with that, I was only using basic ninjas, all his ninjas had more init than each of my positions, yet I still flawlessly won. My team is super weak against his, tendo is immune to nin damage, and my main dmg is all nin, with all that disadvantage, power difference, with an actual event ninja team, I could prob beat him with an 60k - 80k power diff. Although I might be contradicting myself but showing that a basic team can win someone with higher power level, my main point is power is not everything and you can't win with power alone.

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On 2018-07-18 03:12:16Show this Author Only
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  • Zathroth On 2018-07-17 00:20:47
  • You need to understand whether things are rushed or not, the gap between players will stay. Quick example, both players started playing at the same time: our fellow ftp does everything everyday, plunders, convoys. He manages to get 4k cp during a month. Our friendly ptw does the same thing, but also recharged for monthly card, has jonin medal and buys naruto froggy once during a month. Our ptw gets additional 16k coupons. Ftp got 4k, while ptw got 20k. It's an example, dont argue with me "how can i get that much". The point is, just this little thing allows paying players be 5 months ahead of ftp players. You will never be able to compete with those players, if you both keep playing with same efficiency. Just deal with it.


    Now whether new content is rushed or not, it doesnt change the fact, that ftp cant afford anything. While adding new raw power functions like 2nd stage of myoboku allows paying players to get that power faster, ftp can get it too. Both parties need to spend exactly the same ammount of resources, which obviously favours paying players, because they have more coupons. The thing that is happening right now, namely releases of non impactful ninjas (edo jinchuurikis) actually favours ftp, since those 16k coupons that could be spent towards power are "wasted". Although, the more ninjas are released, the more likely we are to receive another meta changer, which leads to first conclusion- you cant compete with p2w.


    Now from game's perspective, rushing content doesnt make sense at all. It should be steadily implemented, yes, but neither rushed or delayed. You need to find that sweet balance, where players get new stuff but dont get bored, because there's one minor update every 1.5 months. Adding things faster will result in initial happiness of the playerbase, but will quickly disappear when the game will run out of content (and it will).


    The only feature (in my opinion) that should be rushed is implementation of Y skills and adding all basic ninjas(sannins, konoha gennins, basic akatsuki), since that both provides just a few viable ninja substitutions, as well as a reason and a goal to work towards (pokemon-skillbook collection). As long as it doesnt include ones that make top meta ninjas (looking at you susanoo sasuke, danzo & ay) this is the only feature that benefits ftp first and foremost. Updated shop would be a nice addition too, but thats 5.0 feature (if we receive same stuff as Germany), but those will benefit paying players more, because they can get more coins.


    Authors of those ftp threads seriously need to understand this- you cant compete with paying players. The same way as casual spenders cant compete with heavy spenders. If you want to be competitive, you need a certain bracket of people- compete with your other ftp fellows or find something else that makes you enjoy the game. Trust me, finding such thing makes the game a lot more pleasant :-)

+1

Ptw pay so they can get ahead not be the same as f2p. Instead of complaining about p2w. Contest with those at your level instead.

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On 2018-07-18 03:51:22Show this Author Only
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  • Authors of those ftp threads seriously need to understand this- you cant compete with paying players. The same way as casual spenders cant compete with heavy spenders. If you want to be competitive, you need a certain bracket of people- compete with your other ftp fellows or find something else that makes you enjoy the game. Trust me, finding such thing makes the game a lot more pleasant :-)

You also need to understand, there is also a limit that a P2W player can get and that a F2P can get. And that gap will eventually close. Refines, Charms, Purifies, magatama, Myoboku stuff, Battle Armor are all limited to a set amount of power they can give. Which F2P can eventually max out on while P2W can max out sooner. Ninjas however, some are Ingot only either on release or Ingot only period.


YASSSS!!! ALL OF THIS!!!! I'm f2p on S4 with about 112k bp and I've been playing for 2yrs now.. I'm top25 for the most part. I've never thought I could compete with the p2w folks. Sure I miss getting all the super op ninja, but you grind away and save all your refines, keys, coupons, and thread until an event comes around you can still stay pretty powered up. It took me almost 9mon to get Edo Deidra, and now I'm working on Earth Grudge Kakuzu which will probably take me another 6mon.

What I'm trying to say is that you can still do well in the game as long as you don't try to compete with the p2w. Just have fun and grind away.



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On 2018-07-18 15:16:24Show this Author Only
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  • Qv The Second On 2018-07-17 18:36:47
  • I don't think so, i remember being beaten by someone that have 70k power, and that time my power was 100k .. I'm using Seal Scroll ninjas,while my opponent was using Ninjas from Events ..


    And here on my Second Main, i remember someone i beat, actually many times, who has 90k power using Seal Scroll ninjas, while me, using Hokage Minato with only 60k power ..

its because you didnt stack, if you have the power advantage go for blitz, not only that the way you build your power. Why not put all your resources on one ninja that does the damage? You dont need to give your earthmain atk mags and runes if the only thing he does is shield your team isnt it? The same with other supports, you give control runes on support ninjas that doesnt have controls, you dont give Roshi control rune because he is immune.

I'll show you a team of mine, a konoha blitz the supports are Hashirama, Wb asuma, Earthmain, with hashi barrier up the total buff is 130% dmg increase, not only that since my CARRY ninja Naruto Ninetails is stacked, my supports doesnt have runes on them, they only have lvl4 mags, thier charms and refines are just ranging from lvl5-6, on the other hand Naruto Nintails has lvl8-9 runes, lvl8-9 refines, lvl8-9 magatamas. Even my eightgates are all focused on the carry ninja.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju2zSFiUoto&t=321s

You can see that even cancer teams cant even survive, even strategic teams with fancy event ninjas,

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On 2018-07-18 15:18:32Show this Author Only
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2018-07-18 02:18:45
  • Fact, in SWB I lost to people who were 70k while I was 110k.

    Running Kakashi Anbu Blitz with Darui, and Kurenai, LM (Kurenai being needed for some guaranteed CC) vs Kushina, Kurenai, Sailor Sakura, Water Main.

    So yes, event ninjas do make a different.

Because your power build is balanced, you didnt put all your power on the carry ninja that does that damage, if your build is balanced then better go cancer teams then

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  • vsai12 On 2018-07-18 02:56:39
  • "30k to 50k power gap, no ninja will save you from the power gap, that is he truth mate."

    Screen Shot 2018-07-13 at 5

    I was around 85k then, you can easily tell by hp difference, so that's more than a 40k difference. Along with that, I was only using basic ninjas, all his ninjas had more init than each of my positions, yet I still flawlessly won. My team is super weak against his, tendo is immune to nin damage, and my main dmg is all nin, with all that disadvantage, power difference, with an actual event ninja team, I could prob beat him with an 60k - 80k power diff. Although I might be contradicting myself but showing that a basic team can win someone with higher power level, my main point is power is not everything and you can't win with power alone.

I see your team is good since danzo, iruka, ino gnw are buffing your firemain. Now what if you are both running the same team? with his power advantage tell me who will win?

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On 2018-07-18 15:28:43Show this Author Only
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  • vsai12 On 2018-07-18 02:56:39
  • "30k to 50k power gap, no ninja will save you from the power gap, that is he truth mate."

    Screen Shot 2018-07-13 at 5

    I was around 85k then, you can easily tell by hp difference, so that's more than a 40k difference. Along with that, I was only using basic ninjas, all his ninjas had more init than each of my positions, yet I still flawlessly won. My team is super weak against his, tendo is immune to nin damage, and my main dmg is all nin, with all that disadvantage, power difference, with an actual event ninja team, I could prob beat him with an 60k - 80k power diff. Although I might be contradicting myself but showing that a basic team can win someone with higher power level, my main point is power is not everything and you can't win with power alone.

And you just proved my point to QV that you dont need event ninjas to win, just a simple blitz team will do the job

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On 2018-07-18 16:22:42Show this Author Only
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  • GenjiGenjuro On 2018-07-18 15:28:43
  • And you just proved my point to QV that you dont need event ninjas to win, just a simple blitz team will do the job

Also consider the composition of the team shown in the image, even if you are hundred thousands of power then your team composition is crap, then expect to get a lose .. And the opponent didn't use Main Character .. But if the guy used his Main Character together with Jigokudo and other one ninja with Edo Deidara, im sure he'll be dead fast .. And the reply you gave to vsai, "what if you are running the same team....", that is contradicting for what you are saying "you dont need event ninja to win". Sometimes its true that you dont need one but most of the time is not ..


And in the video you posted, Naruto Nine Tails is not an ordinary ninja that you can get with just pulling scrolls and playing regularly .. especially if it is upgraded to 3 stars and up .. Not all the teams can do the 1 ninja full stacking tactic, specially in some cases that other ninjas should have something too ..


P2W will never feel the way how F2Ps feel in this game ..




This post was last edited by Qv on 2018-07-18 16:29:16.
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On 2018-07-18 16:28:59Show this Author Only
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Hello , there.

Many of the guys above me said very true things like : F2P will never be able to catch up with with top spenders in like 30-50 years depending on rng in powering up items. You need to play with that mindset and have fun. Statements like go all-in power and ignore events ninjas are false , because you have ninjas like Deidara [ Edo Tensei ] , Konan [ Angel of God ] , Hiruzen [ Edo Tensei ] who can win you a lot of fights even if you have a lower battle power. To do that however you need to stack your position 1 ninjas which is your main damage dealer and build good support ninjas around him. This will take you some time of course but it's worth as when I was 73k battle power managed to win against a guy with 95k battle power , but he wasn't stacking his position 1. Why do you need to do that ? Well the answer is simple when you have more initiative on respective positions with your enemy you go first which will result in doing your damage and as well cc maybe , depending on your line up. When you have more critical your chance to crit increases and when you have more injury , your ninja will deal more damage when he crits and respectively will receive less damage when the opponent crits. Deidara [ Edo Tensei ] benefits the most from this.

As far as level freezing goes , if you are f2p you will want higher refines which means you are pretty much obligated to freeze. There may always be a top spender in your sage but the chances for you to obtain 2nd or even 1st place is way higher compared to if you don't freeze

As far as rushing things. My opinion is that rushing ninjas isn't mostly good , because f2p and even low spenders can't keep up with the meta when top spenders obtain them instantly most of the times. Gameplay updates such as : powering up systems , version updates and new shops are very important to f2p people , because it brings you more variety and easier power up.

As a last note be very careful with your resources and enjoy the game as much as possible.

Peace \\//




This post was last edited by KoChOyA on 2018-07-18 16:32:44.
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On 2018-07-18 18:27:28Show this Author Only
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edo hiruzen already destroyed any balance that this game had... specially in bonds

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