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On 2018-07-14 00:12:32Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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I personally think our server must not rush things..as f2p here, I cannot afford to dig a deeper grave between my class and those p2ws. Sudden release of newer systems, versions and especially new OP ninjas (cough Mdara Five Kage), I say emphatically, would destroy the unseemingly balance in this game;ultimately, create a scenario where a lot in the community will quit. I know people will bash me , but hey, believe me, rushing things like you guys demand for 5.0 and other things will do us no good. Its better to take our time slowly, enjoy the pace as we are now.



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On 2018-07-14 00:38:15Show this Author Only
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5.0 is actually the only things should be implemented immediately exactly because a new patch actually helps f2p and solve some of the previous bugs.

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On 2018-07-14 00:40:11Show this Author Only
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The gap between a f2p and p2w will never close that’s the point of p2w. Might as well have new functions so the game is more refreshing and were not doing the same * over and over again.

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On 2018-07-14 02:31:35Show this Author Only
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Being one of F2P players of this game, I also feels the way you said above, releasing things in rush might put F2Ps into frustration and making them to feel that this game is not for them anymore .. But some parts of the releases are also great for us, Power Systems and other Features .. For Ninjas, it is us who needs to understand the situation and adopt to the environment that will happen, the teams that we will encounter and etc .. In order to at the very least reach to the P2W, we must be smart enough how to play this game, where to invest and when to not spend .. How we use our resources (coupons, seal scrolls, refines, charms, cave keys and other things that has a rebates) ..


And last but not the least, set your mind and always keep in mind that you are a F2P that only have limited access to the whole game .. Making yourself to understand your status will make you play much better and less hard feelings .. People who spends money can really have huge advantage, even in real life .. So don't expect to win against someone you know P2W so it will not hurt you a lot ..


Note : v.5.0 has a lot of new features that F2Ps can and will enjoy so i'm not against it :D


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On 2018-07-14 15:18:34Show this Author Only
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  • Qv On 2018-07-14 02:31:35
  • Being one of F2P players of this game, I also feels the way you said above, releasing things in rush might put F2Ps into frustration and making them to feel that this game is not for them anymore .. But some parts of the releases are also great for us, Power Systems and other Features .. For Ninjas, it is us who needs to understand the situation and adopt to the environment that will happen, the teams that we will encounter and etc .. In order to at the very least reach to the P2W, we must be smart enough how to play this game, where to invest and when to not spend .. How we use our resources (coupons, seal scrolls, refines, charms, cave keys and other things that has a rebates) ..


    And last but not the least, set your mind and always keep in mind that you are a F2P that only have limited access to the whole game .. Making yourself to understand your status will make you play much better and less hard feelings .. People who spends money can really have huge advantage, even in real life .. So don't expect to win against someone you know P2W so it will not hurt you a lot ..


    Note : v.5.0 has a lot of new features that F2Ps can and will enjoy so i'm not against it :D


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aid.. I concede. But my real point is that rush of new ninjas will really widen the gap for us f2ps. FOr example, we hvae newly release ninjas like ANgel and Edo hiruzen. Those two rares already creat havoc for us. I mean, I am personally against the (intended) future release of new OP ninjas like Madara FIve Kage. Instead of releasing new ninjas which admittedly and truthfully catered to the P2Ws, releasing of new features are btter for us. I hope Devs hear this point.

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On 2018-07-14 15:20:06Show this Author Only
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So please delay those future OP Rare ninjas. I am already being murdered by shishui all over the narutoverse..haha..Oasis please dont dig deeper our grave.
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On 2018-07-14 17:52:01Show this Author Only
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I agree with you. I mean we f2p need months and months just to buy one event ninja then the meta changes and we find that our ninja suddenly became outdated and not so useful anymore.

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On 2018-07-14 18:37:07Show this Author Only
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I love this topic and it speaks about the reality WE F2Ps face in this game. + 1 to this

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On 2018-07-14 18:42:16Show this Author Only
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  • GreatOne On 2018-07-14 15:20:06
  • So please delay those future OP Rare ninjas. I am already being murdered by shishui all over the narutoverse..haha..Oasis please dont dig deeper our grave.

Hmmm .. I do agree with your statement with Ninjas .. Me too experiencing massacres from Shisui teams, with Madara and other Super OP ninjas .. Hahahaha .. Releasing new OP ninjas in short period of time will actually kill and obliterate our kind in this game .. Each and every PvP events or feature of the game .. Up until now, I'm still on process of completing my ninjas like Shisui and Angel Konan, after such long time being released, i'm still at half-way or near completing them .. Then Edo Hiruzen comes, the frustration gave it to me but, after some minutes i calmed down and said to my self, one day, i'm gonna have you too .. :D

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On 2018-07-14 19:29:36Show this Author Only
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Thank you guys so much for the feedback. I will be including this in my report to the team. It is basically a double-edged sword. I very much so understand why some players want updates as soon as possible, but also see the side to those who don't because of things like the gap in power/ninja roster. Whether the gap does exist between players is there or not, it definitely is true that releasing ninjas too quickly may not give the community the amount of time needed to recruit ninjas.


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On 2018-07-14 20:08:48Show this Author Only
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You guys seems to not understand that when this new op ninjas gets released it means you may start peicing them up so its not a bad Idea, If you planned better from the start, all your coupons and event resources must go all go to POWER. In every event you should check all the redeemables and plan what to go for. Missions mobilization, Luckyboard and Timelimited shop etc.. if you see charms, cave keys adv refines you must go for it, dont go for ninja fragments unless you really need that ninja and he/she must be usefull end game. All coupons you earn must go for power aswell use it to fill all your lacking resources when it comes to rebates.

All your seal scrolls must be used wisely, this is the only way you could get a ninja. If you played for atleast one year you are eligible to get one super rare from kage treasure or GNW treasure. I suggest you go for Kage since it gives usefull rares and if you get lucky to pull Ay you will be fine on 1v1 but if you get Sasuke he is also good. You will also get the rares and try to make do on what you have and make a team that works.

And the most important thing you have to stack one ninja, the ninja that does the damage, your carry ninja. We F2p's have a very limited resources and it takes us a very long time to be able to max out every power options on each ninja, so the best thing we can do is make a team that has one Carry ninja, the rest are supports. An example of a good carry ninja is Roshi, most of you would say go for watermain roshi poison cancer but unfortunately that doesnt work anymore on this era and what really works is pairing him with lightmain to get the lifesteal.

Lastly, you have to level freeze, reach 69-71 and you must hold that for long thats the only way you could get adv runes fast if you dont win your sage battles you will never get a lvl10 refined equipment. You must get atleast 1st or 2nd, 3rd is ok.

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On 2018-07-14 21:17:53Show this Author Only
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  • Jiburiru On 2018-07-14 19:29:36
  • Thank you guys so much for the feedback. I will be including this in my report to the team. It is basically a double-edged sword. I very much so understand why some players want updates as soon as possible, but also see the side to those who don't because of things like the gap in power/ninja roster. Whether the gap does exist between players is there or not, it definitely is true that releasing ninjas too quickly may not give the community the amount of time needed to recruit ninjas.


    ~Jib

Yo Jib! Im Glad you notice this my man. Well, releasing system updates is better than releasing in RUSH new OP Ninjas. It kinda tilt the balance of the game IMO. SO yeah, please do what you do and notice us senpai.

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On 2018-07-15 00:12:47Show this Author Only
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  • darzan On 2018-07-14 20:08:48
  • You guys seems to not understand that when this new op ninjas gets released it means you may start peicing them up so its not a bad Idea, If you planned better from the start, all your coupons and event resources must go all go to POWER. In every event you should check all the redeemables and plan what to go for. Missions mobilization, Luckyboard and Timelimited shop etc.. if you see charms, cave keys adv refines you must go for it, dont go for ninja fragments unless you really need that ninja and he/she must be usefull end game. All coupons you earn must go for power aswell use it to fill all your lacking resources when it comes to rebates.

    All your seal scrolls must be used wisely, this is the only way you could get a ninja. If you played for atleast one year you are eligible to get one super rare from kage treasure or GNW treasure. I suggest you go for Kage since it gives usefull rares and if you get lucky to pull Ay you will be fine on 1v1 but if you get Sasuke he is also good. You will also get the rares and try to make do on what you have and make a team that works.

    And the most important thing you have to stack one ninja, the ninja that does the damage, your carry ninja. We F2p's have a very limited resources and it takes us a very long time to be able to max out every power options on each ninja, so the best thing we can do is make a team that has one Carry ninja, the rest are supports. An example of a good carry ninja is Roshi, most of you would say go for watermain roshi poison cancer but unfortunately that doesnt work anymore on this era and what really works is pairing him with lightmain to get the lifesteal.

    Lastly, you have to level freeze, reach 69-71 and you must hold that for long thats the only way you could get adv runes fast if you dont win your sage battles you will never get a lvl10 refined equipment. You must get atleast 1st or 2nd, 3rd is ok.

With the things you said, there are some problems that i see, starting from the first line of your paragraph, if you're gonna piece this new OP ninja then where you will get the coupons you will spend for the Power you are saying .. Going all-in for power is not enough nowadays .. Even if you have a lot of power, players with 30k to 50k power less than you can easily kill you if they have a good Ninja from event .. I experienced it so many times that i face players with less power than me, but having good ninjas like Edo Deidara can easily kill me .. And if you're really F2P, you will know the frustration of having to choose what to spend and when to spend .. There is nothing such a Perfect way of spending since F2Ps always takes chances whenever they spend coupons .. Level freezing too is not an option or maybe it is but for F2P, a lot of things will be lost from freezing .. the Coupons, Magatamas and other Power-up Items that you will miss because you're avoiding the missions that gives Exp, and even if you can manage to freeze your level between 60s to 80s, it is still not possible for you to get the 1st up to 3rd place in SWBs, because we all know, within that level clusters, there's always a shark that owns 100k+ power with that level ..




This post was last edited by Qv on 2018-07-15 00:21:14.
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On 2018-07-16 21:56:53Show this Author Only
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5 kage madara should not be released so soon. Instead skill broken susano sauke and and ay the 4th should be released. Think about how many f2p spent scrolls on kage s.rare ,even after other treasures hoping to use him after skill break. Think about people who spent money on events to get sasuke /ay to 5 star? 5.0 implementation is the BEST thing that could happen and should be done ASAP to remedy this unplayable mystery delay glitch.




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On 2018-07-16 22:25:00Show this Author Only
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  • JustSaying On 2018-07-16 21:56:53
  • 5 kage madara should not be released so soon. Instead skill broken susano sauke and and ay the 4th should be released. Think about how many f2p spent scrolls on kage s.rare ,even after other treasures hoping to use him after skill break. Think about people who spent money on events to get sasuke /ay to 5 star? 5.0 implementation is the BEST thing that could happen and should be done ASAP to remedy this unplayable mystery delay glitch.

without obito who gonna stop those monsters ? also the skill broken you said above is actually skill experiment feature which cost so much money

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On 2018-07-16 22:58:15Show this Author Only
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  • darzan On 2018-07-14 20:08:48
  • You guys seems to not understand that when this new op ninjas gets released it means you may start peicing them up so its not a bad Idea, If you planned better from the start, all your coupons and event resources must go all go to POWER. In every event you should check all the redeemables and plan what to go for. Missions mobilization, Luckyboard and Timelimited shop etc.. if you see charms, cave keys adv refines you must go for it, dont go for ninja fragments unless you really need that ninja and he/she must be usefull end game. All coupons you earn must go for power aswell use it to fill all your lacking resources when it comes to rebates.

    All your seal scrolls must be used wisely, this is the only way you could get a ninja. If you played for atleast one year you are eligible to get one super rare from kage treasure or GNW treasure. I suggest you go for Kage since it gives usefull rares and if you get lucky to pull Ay you will be fine on 1v1 but if you get Sasuke he is also good. You will also get the rares and try to make do on what you have and make a team that works.

    And the most important thing you have to stack one ninja, the ninja that does the damage, your carry ninja. We F2p's have a very limited resources and it takes us a very long time to be able to max out every power options on each ninja, so the best thing we can do is make a team that has one Carry ninja, the rest are supports. An example of a good carry ninja is Roshi, most of you would say go for watermain roshi poison cancer but unfortunately that doesnt work anymore on this era and what really works is pairing him with lightmain to get the lifesteal.

    Lastly, you have to level freeze, reach 69-71 and you must hold that for long thats the only way you could get adv runes fast if you dont win your sage battles you will never get a lvl10 refined equipment. You must get atleast 1st or 2nd, 3rd is ok.

I just wanted to mention, we are no longer in the era of Naruto Online where you can focus all about power and do well. We are now basically in an event ninja meta where 1 or 2 ninjas are required to even compete. It took me 10 months to get Jonin Minato, and when I got him, people stopped using him cause he fell out of the meta. After I finish off my Kushina [Mad Momma] I'll be saving coupons for a ninja that won't come out for a year or more.

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On 2018-07-16 23:26:50Show this Author Only
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2018-07-16 22:58:15
  • I just wanted to mention, we are no longer in the era of Naruto Online where you can focus all about power and do well. We are now basically in an event ninja meta where 1 or 2 ninjas are required to even compete. It took me 10 months to get Jonin Minato, and when I got him, people stopped using him cause he fell out of the meta. After I finish off my Kushina [Mad Momma] I'll be saving coupons for a ninja that won't come out for a year or more.

the guy doesnt know what hes saying he even claims that hes f2p while in other thread he said he has 63/100 to 4star naruto nine tails chakra hero

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On 2018-07-16 23:28:04Show this Author Only
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  • SCOR KAWAII On 2018-07-16 22:25:00
  • without obito who gonna stop those monsters ? also the skill broken you said above is actually skill experiment feature which cost so much money

han same skill with strong tobi hero

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On 2018-07-16 23:39:39Show this Author Only
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i still tried to get both (power and ninja ) as possible . not bad choice tho . never get new ninja for this 3-4 months . still using my dei team . still collect some frags for ninja i want . the new meta ( angel / hiruzen ) not really effect me much . did beat that had 10-20k than me .




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On 2018-07-17 00:20:47Show this Author Only
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You need to understand whether things are rushed or not, the gap between players will stay. Quick example, both players started playing at the same time: our fellow ftp does everything everyday, plunders, convoys. He manages to get 4k cp during a month. Our friendly ptw does the same thing, but also recharged for monthly card, has jonin medal and buys naruto froggy once during a month. Our ptw gets additional 16k coupons. Ftp got 4k, while ptw got 20k. It's an example, dont argue with me "how can i get that much". The point is, just this little thing allows paying players be 5 months ahead of ftp players. You will never be able to compete with those players, if you both keep playing with same efficiency. Just deal with it.


Now whether new content is rushed or not, it doesnt change the fact, that ftp cant afford anything. While adding new raw power functions like 2nd stage of myoboku allows paying players to get that power faster, ftp can get it too. Both parties need to spend exactly the same ammount of resources, which obviously favours paying players, because they have more coupons. The thing that is happening right now, namely releases of non impactful ninjas (edo jinchuurikis) actually favours ftp, since those 16k coupons that could be spent towards power are "wasted". Although, the more ninjas are released, the more likely we are to receive another meta changer, which leads to first conclusion- you cant compete with p2w.


Now from game's perspective, rushing content doesnt make sense at all. It should be steadily implemented, yes, but neither rushed or delayed. You need to find that sweet balance, where players get new stuff but dont get bored, because there's one minor update every 1.5 months. Adding things faster will result in initial happiness of the playerbase, but will quickly disappear when the game will run out of content (and it will).


The only feature (in my opinion) that should be rushed is implementation of Y skills and adding all basic ninjas(sannins, konoha gennins, basic akatsuki), since that both provides just a few viable ninja substitutions, as well as a reason and a goal to work towards (pokemon-skillbook collection). As long as it doesnt include ones that make top meta ninjas (looking at you susanoo sasuke, danzo & ay) this is the only feature that benefits ftp first and foremost. Updated shop would be a nice addition too, but thats 5.0 feature (if we receive same stuff as Germany), but those will benefit paying players more, because they can get more coins.


Authors of those ftp threads seriously need to understand this- you cant compete with paying players. The same way as casual spenders cant compete with heavy spenders. If you want to be competitive, you need a certain bracket of people- compete with your other ftp fellows or find something else that makes you enjoy the game. Trust me, finding such thing makes the game a lot more pleasant :-)




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