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Hey guys!



Alright so this thread will be about detailed view into buffs stacking , mostly about which ones specifically won't stack with each other.



-First off , to make it clear none of the same ninjas buff will ever stack in bond arena/GNW (so if you have 2 team mates who are both using Konan, only 1 Konan buff will work)

-Second, ALL SHIELDS ALWAYS STACK





Now let's talk about WHY certain buffs don't stack with each other before I list things:


Certain buffs don't stack because they are essentially same buffs, they have same % of same attribute (atk/nin) and same amount of rounds.

If only 1 of those things in description is different then it will stack , for example different %, different amount of rounds, different attribute (for example def/res buffs will stack with atk/nin even if other parts of description are same)



Now all has been tested and confirmed, I will make another thread full of screenshots later and will edit the link to it here

Edit:

Buffs that DON'T STACK proof

Buffs that DO STACK proof






Buffs that don't stack with each other:

30% atk/nin for 3 rounds (description)


-Iruka

-Killer Bee

-Samui

-Edo Sasori

-Konan

-Playboy Sasuke

-Jugo

-GUY



So none of these ninjas listed above stack with each other, but with all other buffs they will (and yes I know Guy has only +atk but it doesn't stack simply)





Buffs that don't stack with each other:

30% atk/nin for 5 rounds (description)


-Hashirama/Tobirama

-Mifune

-GNW Ino (yes she doesn't have the same description but this was tested and confirmed, my best bet is to believe that her description in game is wrong and it's actually 5 rounds and not 3, she stacks with Iruka/Bee/Sasuke/Konan/Samui etc)



EDIT: My doubt was confirmed and GNW Ino buff DOES actually last 5 rounds,in video you can notice Fire Main doing constant 5k+ until round 6 where he suddenly does 4k- damage, here is video proof

NOTE: Hashirama and Tobirama by themselves will stack because one is Tai and other is Nin.

NOTE2: Hashirama and Tobirama skillbook +1 passive stacks with Mifune/GNW Ino AND ALSO stacks with another Hashirama/Tobirama who has passive without skillbook.









Buffs that stack with everything:


-Pains (Shurado/Chikushido/Gakido/Ningendo)

-WB Asuma

-Edo Asuma

-God Angel Konan 20% buff

-Madara 20% buff

-All Main Character attribute buffs (until Edo Hiruzen comes, they don't stack with his buff)

-Earth Main "Pose of Duel"

-Earth Main "Guidance"

-Lightning Main "Warrior Killing Intent"

-Lightning Main "Anbu Special Tactics"

-Fire Main "Ninjutsu Urge"

-Fire Main "Red Lotus Secret"

-Wind Main "Queen Momentum"

-Wind Main "Wind Dance"

-8 Gates Guy buff at 3 stars

-GNW TenTen/ TenTen

-Hiruzen / Hokage Minato

-Healing Tips (Hokage Tsunade, Water Main, Shizune) (NOTE: they stack with each other also)

-Any Chakra Buff (e.g. God Angel Konan, Lightning Main "Heart Flux", 3rd Raikage passive)

-Scalling Ninja buffs (e.g. Roshi, Kushina Habanero, Edo Deidara passives)




Note: Fire Main "Ninjutsu Urge" and Lightning Main "Anbu Tactics" STACK with each other AND STACK on 2-3x (you could use 3x Anbu tactics in GNW and will get 75% atk buff)





That would be all for now, as always tell me if you have any questions!




This post was last edited by ICExx on 2018-05-13 01:32:09.
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Sasuke playboy+iruka and any - working.

Konan angel+madara pls tested - buff different, pls proof




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  • s660-Neijin On 2018-05-12 04:59:54
  • Sasuke playboy+iruka and any - working.

    Konan angel+madara pls tested - buff different, pls proof

I can't test the Konan and Madara one yet since I don't have Konan nor do I have Susano Itachi/Sasuke, I will try to find someone who has them to test it for proof
But I see no reason why they would stack it's exactly the same words for both buffs


As for other proofs I'll post them tomorrow

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I have Madara and Angel konan, and i used regular s sasuke for the tests. Here are some rough results based off his chase without criting and all test were run on the kakashis

solo: 3600`

With either madara/angel: weirdness the main changed but sasuke did the same damage as normal and under konan sasuke was 4200`, chakra from madara does apply

with shisui: 5000

madara shisui and angel shisui: 5100 v 6500

So it seems like the buff portion from madara doesn't even happen to duel aka/kono ninja

ProofTo just show that I do have the ninja in question




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Yes yes the chakra buff passive from Madara will still be active of course, but the 20% buff from either Madara or Konan shouldn't be active as they will overlap each other toward buffing Sasuke


If you could provide me with actual testing screenshots on discord or here I would be thankful

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Very helpful guide for me. Noticed a lot of things actually don't stack(like Guy&Iruka , Killer Bee &Iruka) Thank you.




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  • ICExx On 2018-05-12 17:36:30
  • Yes yes the chakra buff passive from Madara will still be active of course, but the 20% buff from either Madara or Konan shouldn't be active as they will overlap each other toward buffing Sasuke


    If you could provide me with actual testing screenshots on discord or here I would be thankful

Konan and Madara DO stack.


konan + madara

Only konan


Why did i choose to screen the chase instead of the auto?

1) No flying kakashi in the middle of the screen.

2) Certain critical - less RNG.

3) Big blue numbers.


The screens are the results of around 10 tries with both teams.

Konan + madara = 7.5 to 7.9 k dmg

only konan = 6.8 to 7.2 k dmg


I'll also leave as reference my itachi stats:

Capture


Have a good day.

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Thank you for the screenshots, I think it's a good enough evidence so I will edit the thread

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Edit:


I ran a lot of tests now and GNW Ino is the only exception from the 30% atk/nin for 3 rounds group for some unknown reason.

She will stack with everyone except Mifune/Hashirama/Tobirama , I will edit it in the proof thread also




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For the testing it was was weird since at least for s sasuke in my set up the madara damage was same as no additional ninja, atleast nothing that narutal damage variation couldn't account for. Also did just konan, and avoided crits since they can be even less consistant due to variation.

test1

Test 2

Test 3

If Madara applied right the damage should be closer to konan but its not.

Adding a shisui barrier to give as comparison. Test4

Earth main is set to wood style universe for the low float to start the chase.




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Huh that test is quite weird, did you try comparing both Madara-Konan together ? was it same as only Angel around 4,7k damage or was it something like Shisui barrier around 5,5k damage (it should be there if they stack)

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Test 5

With both damage is in the just konan range. The weirdness is that the buff from madara doesn't appear at all on s Sasuke.

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Test 6

test7

Another test showing madara not buffing ninja that are both konoha and akatsuki labeled

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Very interesting, I'll test Madara buff myself also tomorrow on both only Konoha ninja and Konoha+Akatsuki ninja.

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So any results from testing with Madara yet, or testing still in progress?

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are you really sure that anbu special tactics effect stack also for the damaging part?

i'm sure the leaching part stack, but i'm not that sure the atk part do... (to be honest i don't even think the atk part is cross team).




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Wait did you say ( until Edo Hiruzen comes ) !!!!!! so are we will got him in next week ( i'm not saying this will happen , or give an expected or falsified information

) , but are we will get him ??? It's just a question and thank you for your player guide




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Hes already out in the german servers and been out for awhile on the chinesse ones, and it is listed under his passive that they don't work with the main elemental buff. So we know that edo Hiruzen is a ninja that is to be expected, but whether its next week or next month or next season only the oasis devs know.

Generally the german version is the one of the ones to track since if its been out for awhile there its probably on its way here sooner or later.

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  • Garv On 2018-05-14 09:35:20
  • are you really sure that anbu special tactics effect stack also for the damaging part?

    i'm sure the leaching part stack, but i'm not that sure the atk part do... (to be honest i don't even think the atk part is cross team).

I posted my testing results in "buffs that DO stack" thread, I can do some more testing with LM for it also later though

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  • Raizel Di Cadiz On 2018-05-14 14:35:36
  • Wait did you say ( until Edo Hiruzen comes ) !!!!!! so are we will got him in next week ( i'm not saying this will happen , or give an expected or falsified information

    ) , but are we will get him ??? It's just a question and thank you for your player guide

It's stated in his skill description that his buff doesn't work with Main Character enhacements, I saw it from Chinese and Germany version translations


I don't know when he might come, don't think of it as any kind of leak as I don't have that info

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