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On 2018-05-09 07:21:45Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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I'm just curious to know if you guys are going to do something different for the lightning main. Once his immunity is gone it's a wrap. Seems like every main has some other defense accept the lightning main. Fire can reflect, water can heal, wind can reset and earth has shields. Can you guys do something at all. Han, Kushina and wind main can rip it away while Shisui and some other ninjas can cut through it like *er. Would love to see the LM get something else like unable to remove the immunity for the 2 round duration which can be done since ninja like bee, Roshi, Kushina again keep their immunity. Just something to throw out there.

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On 2018-05-09 09:10:13Show this Author Only
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LM is all about Blitz or Chakra set up. It also has a 25% leech which can't be removed.

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On 2018-05-09 16:08:18Show this Author Only
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Root of warrior is a buff, do not grant only immunity to debuffs for two rounds but also a very huge buff to resistance.

That said mb currently is the only main that is able to actually go on fully with buffs that cannot be removed. Anbu special tactics and Heart flux or how are called cannot be removed, calm mind gives you immunity, chakra and selfhealing every round, lightning armor additional standard attacks cannot be denied by debuff removal effects, honestly speaking i think mb is even too much overpowered currently.

P.S. you clearly never played azure fang.

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On 2018-05-09 16:27:48Show this Author Only
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You clearly dont have event ninjas thats why youre complaining. I play azure fang, and mostly fights midnight in every swb, arena and matsuri. I run with chaos passive and poisoon tai, but well here comes root. It annoys me very much, immunity and 100% buff resistance?. But still i can win cause i have edo deidara and kisame fusion. Crit scaling is real even without debuffs like ignite , poison and chaos i can literally make midnight cry with 1/2 of life taken away by deidara mystery.

Putting that all aside, you should have at least 2 event ninjas right now. Have shisui, or jonin minato or masked man. Mostly i can see in cn they using clone rather than root, cause midnight has calm mind( standard immunity).

Why not counter root? Many runs with root, mostly all the f2p goes to midnight blade and azure fangs which is no fun cause you know thwir lineup in fighting swb, arena and matsuri. Root also gives 100% buff resistance which no main can have. A little bit OP for me i think.

Right now, i have the deepest respect to those using scarlet and earth main even though f2p . Theres a few ninjas synergizes with them that you should want to get event ninjas to just maximize their full potentials.

It is a bit off topic but i rank them strongest to weakest as a moment (with of course all the event ninjas included and their uses in a team.)

1. Earth/fire main

2. Wind

3 water

4. Midnight

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  • Oujingbing On 2018-05-09 16:27:48
  • You clearly dont have event ninjas thats why youre complaining. I play azure fang, and mostly fights midnight in every swb, arena and matsuri. I run with chaos passive and poisoon tai, but well here comes root. It annoys me very much, immunity and 100% buff resistance?. But still i can win cause i have edo deidara and kisame fusion. Crit scaling is real even without debuffs like ignite , poison and chaos i can literally make midnight cry with 1/2 of life taken away by deidara mystery.

    Putting that all aside, you should have at least 2 event ninjas right now. Have shisui, or jonin minato or masked man. Mostly i can see in cn they using clone rather than root, cause midnight has calm mind( standard immunity).

    Why not counter root? Many runs with root, mostly all the f2p goes to midnight blade and azure fangs which is no fun cause you know thwir lineup in fighting swb, arena and matsuri. Root also gives 100% buff resistance which no main can have. A little bit OP for me i think.

    Right now, i have the deepest respect to those using scarlet and earth main even though f2p . Theres a few ninjas synergizes with them that you should want to get event ninjas to just maximize their full potentials.

    It is a bit off topic but i rank them strongest to weakest as a moment (with of course all the event ninjas included and their uses in a team.)

    1. Earth/fire main

    2. Wind

    3 water

    4. Midnight

Why neurotoxin? Does not add anything to your team.

Use nature energy gathering instead of neurotoxin and add a 4th ninja that immobile or chaos to complete the team (angel god konan or ay 3rd should be very good additions, in the meanwhile use kurenai skillbroken).


P.S.:madara, iruka, wb asuma with mb in move 1, iruka in 2, lightning armor, heart flux, bloodthirsty demon. Good luck in beating it if you do not own initiative. Another mb team that owns you with ease right now is kushimaru blitz with onoki or mifune if jinpachi moves after deidara and if mb is faster than kisame (unless your kisame is move 1)




This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2018-05-09 16:46:36.
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On 2018-05-09 16:46:32Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-05-09 16:36:59
  • Why neurotoxin? Does not add anything to your team.

    Use nature energy gathering instead of neurotoxin and add a 4th ninja that immobile or chaos to complete the team (angel god konan or ay 3rd should be very good additions, in the meanwhile use kurenai skillbroken).


    P.S.:madara, iruka, wb asuma with mb in move 1, iruka in 2, lightning armor, heart flux, bloodthirsty demon. Good luck in beating it if you do not own initiative. Another mb team that owns you with ease right now is kushimaru blitz with onoki or mifune if jinpachi moves after deidara and if mb is faster than kisame (unless your kisame is move 1)

Well i kinda use nature enery. But it doesnt play my game style. I also try kurenai (fully skillbroke), which is good, but i find sailor sakura more effective than kurenai in spacetime which i observe kurenai always interupt by kisame. I use poison tai to complement deidara and sailor sakura standard. I dont have cc so i use chaos.

I swap to kurenai and sailor from time to time.




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  • Oujingbing On 2018-05-09 16:46:32
  • Well i kinda use nature enery. But it doesnt play my game style. I also try kurenai (fully skillbroke), which is good, but i find sailor sakura more effective than kurenai in spacetime which i observe kurenai always interupt by kisame. I use poison tai to complement deidara and sailor sakura standard. I dont have cc so i use chaos.

    I swap to kurenai and sailor from time to time.

Have you tried with jinpanchi, he and deidara are good together?

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On 2018-05-10 03:24:49Show this Author Only
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Thank you all for your input. @Scarlettblue yes I have played all classes. I'm not sure what you are talking about or who you have even played against. For example in round one if WM uses Wind Style Sand Dust all that your talking about is gone right there and then in the first round. It cancels all units debuffs/buffs and shields. Han can do the same thing and Red Blooded Kushina can do the same as well as paralyze your whole team in the same move and again all that your talking about will not matter. Jinin Akebino also cancels buffs and shields. Yes LM will destroy most teams but with the arrival of a lot of the newer ninja who will cancel out the immunity and buffs the blitz falls apart. @firefox-amber I wasn't complaining and yes I do have some event ninja. So unless you know who you are talking to don't make assumptions. Now that being said root can be taken away. You of all people should know that. Most water mains run Han who on the first move can remove root and then their poison tai will work in the first round. Calm mind is only of the main and if your main and you have no other standard attack. Most LM use clam mind as a chakra pumper for other ninja who have big cost mysteries. And it seems you have never played WM or FM. You said no other main has 100 immunity and your wrong. WM has it with Flower girl which make the main and one other female on the team immune for two round and it also provides shields to those ninja and FM has it too with illusion mirror in which the team will be immune the entire round as well as having genjutsu mirror which reflects every first debuff which is good for those Shisui teams unless it's another FM with Shisui which means the attack will be reflected back to you. Shisui alone can null and void LM with his mystery. Itachi and Obito can as well. Immunity does not matter with their mysteries they will still chaos you with or without immunity. The difference in what I'm talking about is that the FM also has mirror to reflect and WM can reset all unit mysteries. Once LM immunity is removed by the ninja that I mentioned above that's it. He can't reset or reflect anything himself. EM can remove all debuffs for the entire team. All other mains have a means of compensation except for the LM. That's all I was saying. Like you can't cancel or remove Bee or Roshi's immunity no matter what you do. Why can't that be the same for the lightning main. Quick fight example. If FM fought against someone using HAN or RB Kushina who canceled out the team shields and immunity he could just put in back on with illusion mirror and still keep the reflecting mirror. This is a real old discussion that has been talked about for awhile now. I will say they have made changes good and bad to some ninja with these discussions.




This post was last edited by vsnipes007@gmai on 2018-05-10 03:52:20.
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  • vsnipes007@gmai On 2018-05-10 03:24:49
  • Thank you all for your input. @Scarlettblue yes I have played all classes. I'm not sure what you are talking about or who you have even played against. For example in round one if WM uses Wind Style Sand Dust all that your talking about is gone right there and then in the first round. It cancels all units debuffs/buffs and shields. Han can do the same thing and Red Blooded Kushina can do the same as well as paralyze your whole team in the same move and again all that your talking about will not matter. Jinin Akebino also cancels buffs and shields. Yes LM will destroy most teams but with the arrival of a lot of the newer ninja who will cancel out the immunity and buffs the blitz falls apart. @firefox-amber I wasn't complaining and yes I do have some event ninja. So unless you know who you are talking to don't make assumptions. Now that being said root can be taken away. You of all people should know that. Most water mains run Han who on the first move can remove root and then their poison tai will work in the first round. Calm mind is only of the main and if your main and you have no other standard attack. Most LM use clam mind as a chakra pumper for other ninja who have big cost mysteries. And it seems you have never played WM or FM. You said no other main has 100 immunity and your wrong. WM has it with Flower girl which make the main and one other female on the team immune for two round and it also provides shields to those ninja and FM has it too with illusion mirror in which the team will be immune the entire round as well as having genjutsu mirror which reflects every first debuff which is good for those Shisui teams unless it's another FM with Shisui which means the attack will be reflected back to you. Shisui alone can null and void LM with his mystery. Itachi and Obito can as well. Immunity does not matter with their mysteries they will still chaos you with or without immunity. The difference in what I'm talking about is that the FM also has mirror to reflect and WM can reset all unit mysteries. Once LM immunity is removed by the ninja that I mentioned above that's it. He can't reset or reflect anything himself. EM can remove all debuffs for the entire team. All other mains have a means of compensation except for the LM. That's all I was saying. Like you can't cancel or remove Bee or Roshi's immunity no matter what you do. Why can't that be the same for the lightning main. Quick fight example. If FM fought against someone using HAN or RB Kushina who canceled out the team shields and immunity he could just put in back on with illusion mirror and still keep the reflecting mirror. This is a real old discussion that has been talked about for awhile now. I will say they have made changes good and bad to some ninja with these discussions.

Earth Main doesnt have the power to remove all debuffs on his team it says remove 1 layer of debuff. About your ridiculous petition on wanting the root to be irremovable like a jinjuriki's immune buff that is down right OP right there, Root of warrior is already an op buff with 2 rounds of immunity and 100% resistance.

Back in the old days Root teams are the one who is dominating the fights, In arena a simple Kimimaro,Mifune,LM and Regular Sasuke with root is very strong since that time no ninja can counter against the immunity all they can do watch their team get murdered. Do you know why Han was released during that time? for that exact purpose to balance the game, At least with Han those immune swordsmen are vulnerable and can be controlled. Do not expect someone to watch their entire team get mowed down without defending themselves. Every line up has its weakness no line up is a perfect line up.

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