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[ Suggestions ] modify the rewards for top3 people in swb

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The reason why people level freezes is mostly linked to the fact rewards for top 3 placements are too good in comparison with what you get by leveling up, so my suggestion is to remove the advanced refinements reward for top 3 people and keep it only for top 10 that are not top3. In the place of the 18-12-7 advanced refinements you could put 5-3-2 seal scrolls or 10-7-4 advanced threads. This choice would prevent level freezing at all by not denying people useful things.


EDIT:after reading some of the following replies i think is fine that my suggestion is applied only to the fields with no level 100s.




This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2018-02-27 17:21:27.
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On 2018-02-21 21:57:35Show this Author Only
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Or make the rewards for finishing 1st relative to last not be 20 or more advanced refine runes to no refine runes for the last place. Make the game a bit fairer but still reward with winners without overtly punishing the weaker players

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On 2018-02-22 01:59:47Show this Author Only
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i like the idea, and lot more of people do. i hope we can get some change about it, since the other pvp systems are working pretty weird, meaning matsuri, bonds, sage. i think is even better to cancel the cross server sage for the servers that are merged

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On 2018-02-22 10:29:16Show this Author Only
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A simpler solution could be to simply give 1 adv refine for each of the first 4 daily mission pack claimed (and 2 for the last one). It'll still take a f2p 6 months to get a single lvl 10 refine; but makes level freezing nearly pointless.

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On 2018-02-22 15:30:14Show this Author Only
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Noononnono, guys, are u nuts? Are u not enjoying 100k+ in low lvl swb where 30-60k are? Nerf it? Pfffff, nice joke, sit still and cry @Oasis. If srsly, they wont do anything at least because they cant =/ They're way too lazy, so lvl camping not bothering em at all, ofc people leaving because of such bs are nothing, money they could recharge and etc.... so w/e =/




This post was last edited by Alkai on 2018-02-22 15:30:37.
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On 2018-02-22 17:21:38Show this Author Only
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This is a serious issue, level freezing should not be encouraged at all. If the reason are the top rewards of swb then they need to be modified to something less appealing, but still useful.

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On 2018-02-24 15:38:58Show this Author Only
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I don't agree with the level freezing, but no they should not remove advanced refines from the top positions in swb. I worked very hard, put in ALOT of time and effort to get to 130k so I can place in swb and pulling a stunt like that would not be good for player retention.


They need to solve the level freezing problem and everything would be fine so don't try to punish the rest of us because of the few that are gaming the system.

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On 2018-02-24 21:37:15Show this Author Only
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  • JushinUchiha On 2018-02-24 15:38:58
  • I don't agree with the level freezing, but no they should not remove advanced refines from the top positions in swb. I worked very hard, put in ALOT of time and effort to get to 130k so I can place in swb and pulling a stunt like that would not be good for player retention.


    They need to solve the level freezing problem and everything would be fine so don't try to punish the rest of us because of the few that are gaming the system.

the guy is not saying to remove them altogether, just to remove them from placements 1, 2 and 3.

he is saying that if you are 4th, 5th, ..., 10th you still get the 5-4-3-2-1 you get now, but in his idea you don't get them for being 1st, 2nd or 3rd, while, instead, you get seal scrolls or advanced threads (like if gathering advanced threads is easy right now).

why should that disvantage you unless you own BA rank 9 or unless you gathered all the rares from all the treasures?

if the full removal of the rewards is not nice, then could be given 5 advanced refinements to top 3 + 3/2/1 additional seal scrolls, so that the difference coming from advanced refinements only would be low enough to let you say is fine to level up and be 5th in an higher field if you were 1st or 2nd in a lower level field.

Honestly speaking i fully support this idea or at least something close to what he said.




This post was last edited by Garv on 2018-02-24 22:07:43.
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On 2018-02-24 22:31:29Show this Author Only
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If you level up to max level you have no problem with lvl freezers. Unless you are a level freezer yourself. Just saying....

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On 2018-02-26 08:21:10Show this Author Only
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  • JustSaying On 2018-02-24 22:31:29
  • If you level up to max level you have no problem with lvl freezers. Unless you are a level freezer yourself. Just saying....

This is not true.

You have problems coming out from this issue both in matsuri and in arena and in plundering.

If massive amounts of people are induced in level freezing it's very easy in matsuri to be matched with somebody lower level than you that may be way stronger than you after you lost a battle, thing that theoretically should happen very rarely unless you are in the levels 95+ or unless you wait for 60+ seconds.

The same can be said for Ranked Arena where you can't be matched with people outside the range of +/- 15 levels and for plundering, where, if many people are induced in level freezing you are induced to somehow do it too even if you would not want to do it because otherwise could be you have none to plunder.




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On 2018-02-26 11:02:08Show this Author Only
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  • Garv On 2018-02-26 08:21:10
  • This is not true.

    You have problems coming out from this issue both in matsuri and in arena and in plundering.

    If massive amounts of people are induced in level freezing it's very easy in matsuri to be matched with somebody lower level than you that may be way stronger than you after you lost a battle, thing that theoretically should happen very rarely unless you are in the levels 95+ or unless you wait for 60+ seconds.

    The same can be said for Ranked Arena where you can't be matched with people outside the range of +/- 15 levels and for plundering, where, if many people are induced in level freezing you are induced to somehow do it too even if you would not want to do it because otherwise could be you have none to plunder.

Well he was talking about sage so... And asking to nerf rewards for other people while you yourself level freezing is ironic and hypocritical. There is ALWAYS going to be a person stronger than you regardless of lvl because P2W nature of the game.Sorry but, it is what it is.

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On 2018-02-26 15:38:48Show this Author Only
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  • Garv On 2018-02-24 21:37:15
  • the guy is not saying to remove them altogether, just to remove them from placements 1, 2 and 3.

    he is saying that if you are 4th, 5th, ..., 10th you still get the 5-4-3-2-1 you get now, but in his idea you don't get them for being 1st, 2nd or 3rd, while, instead, you get seal scrolls or advanced threads (like if gathering advanced threads is easy right now).

    why should that disvantage you unless you own BA rank 9 or unless you gathered all the rares from all the treasures?

    if the full removal of the rewards is not nice, then could be given 5 advanced refinements to top 3 + 3/2/1 additional seal scrolls, so that the difference coming from advanced refinements only would be low enough to let you say is fine to level up and be 5th in an higher field if you were 1st or 2nd in a lower level field.

    Honestly speaking i fully support this idea or at least something close to what he said.

I fully understand what he is saying and I still disagree. I worked hard to get to the point that I can place 1-3 on my team and get those advanced refines. I could care less about seal scrolls, I will collect them over time anyways. I would pick adv refines 10/10 times.


Even advanced threads would not be acceptable, the refines are more important and it allows you to put the power where you want it. It takes way more refines to completely max out than it does to max BA.


Again though, i do agree they should do something about the level freezing but as far as the rewards go I don't support that change even a little bit.

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On 2018-02-26 23:32:16Show this Author Only
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  • JustSaying On 2018-02-26 11:02:08
  • Well he was talking about sage so... And asking to nerf rewards for other people while you yourself level freezing is ironic and hypocritical. There is ALWAYS going to be a person stronger than you regardless of lvl because P2W nature of the game.Sorry but, it is what it is.

But here the problem is you have F2P, not whales, at level 70s and 80s that are level freezing because they are gaining the top rewards in swb.

This makes no sense.

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On 2018-02-26 23:35:04Show this Author Only
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  • JushinUchiha On 2018-02-26 15:38:48
  • I fully understand what he is saying and I still disagree. I worked hard to get to the point that I can place 1-3 on my team and get those advanced refines. I could care less about seal scrolls, I will collect them over time anyways. I would pick adv refines 10/10 times.


    Even advanced threads would not be acceptable, the refines are more important and it allows you to put the power where you want it. It takes way more refines to completely max out than it does to max BA.


    Again though, i do agree they should do something about the level freezing but as far as the rewards go I don't support that change even a little bit.

Ok, i understand what you said.

Then would you be ok to keep the current rewards only for level 100 fields? And to modify them for level 1-99 fields in the way he or me said?







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  • Garv On 2018-02-26 23:35:04
  • Ok, i understand what you said.

    Then would you be ok to keep the current rewards only for level 100 fields? And to modify them for level 1-99 fields in the way he or me said?




As long as the top tier stayed the same I'd be fine with that. That could be a potential solution to the level freezing issue, then maybe everyone who wanted those refines would strive for the top bracket.

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On 2018-02-27 02:28:39Show this Author Only
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  • Garv On 2018-02-26 23:32:16
  • But here the problem is you have F2P, not whales, at level 70s and 80s that are level freezing because they are gaining the top rewards in swb.

    This makes no sense.

Um... like we have #2 in our space time bracket and like over 100k in lvl 81-85 sage bracket and a 100k in lvl 78-80 sage bracket, what u say about whales not freezing is invalid in my case then. i'm right now under lvl 78 so I'm avoiding them and if i don't freeze, i'll have to deal with 100k and then later 120k. I don't agree with freezing, but freezing is like the only way to go at this point becuz basically who does have these whales just win, so i have no incentive not to freeze to join them.




This post was last edited by vsai12 on 2018-02-27 02:31:49.
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On 2018-02-27 17:13:36Show this Author Only
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  • IamAscrub On 2018-02-22 10:29:16
  • A simpler solution could be to simply give 1 adv refine for each of the first 4 daily mission pack claimed (and 2 for the last one). It'll still take a f2p 6 months to get a single lvl 10 refine; but makes level freezing nearly pointless.

You are right there but there is no way oasis, greedy as it is, would do it.

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On 2018-02-27 17:16:14Show this Author Only
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  • JushinUchiha On 2018-02-26 15:38:48
  • I fully understand what he is saying and I still disagree. I worked hard to get to the point that I can place 1-3 on my team and get those advanced refines. I could care less about seal scrolls, I will collect them over time anyways. I would pick adv refines 10/10 times.


    Even advanced threads would not be acceptable, the refines are more important and it allows you to put the power where you want it. It takes way more refines to completely max out than it does to max BA.


    Again though, i do agree they should do something about the level freezing but as far as the rewards go I don't support that change even a little bit.

EDIT: I read your second reply to garv reply




This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2018-02-27 17:18:12.
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On 2018-02-27 17:25:05Show this Author Only
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  • vsai12 On 2018-02-27 02:28:39
  • Um... like we have #2 in our space time bracket and like over 100k in lvl 81-85 sage bracket and a 100k in lvl 78-80 sage bracket, what u say about whales not freezing is invalid in my case then. i'm right now under lvl 78 so I'm avoiding them and if i don't freeze, i'll have to deal with 100k and then later 120k. I don't agree with freezing, but freezing is like the only way to go at this point becuz basically who does have these whales just win, so i have no incentive not to freeze to join them.

I think what he said is that if were whales only that do it then could even be somehow fine since the game is theoretically made in their favour, but since a lot of f2p do it, then is not fine at all from oasis point of view.

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On 2018-02-27 18:21:22Show this Author Only
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The simplest solution is to give lots of xp to the top 3.

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