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How to beat edo deidara?

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On 2018-01-22 21:30:45Show All Posts
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  • D2@1 On 2018-01-22 16:58:26
  • The main team I see him used with is earth main placed in front. or with someone to revive him when he dies.

    does anyone have good team comp for any main that beats him?

minato hokage, gaara kk/normal, bee sst, AF/BD

ay3rd, samui, darui, AF/CF

ay4th, samui, darui, MB/CF

kushimaru blitz team

old school MB blitz team with MB in front of deidara

fuguki, mei, roshi, AF (full damage dealing version).




This post was last edited by Garv on 2018-01-22 23:17:21.
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On 2018-01-22 23:09:28Show All Posts
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  • Kuro하돌 On 2018-01-22 21:35:58
  • most of the team u mention need atleast 6-15k above bp of that deidara team .


    i beat most of that team on sage .


you beat them because they use their mysteries in the wrong way or don't time them in the right way (like for example in the mb, iruka, darui, wb asuma lineup to not keep iruka mystery for round 2 to interrupt jigokudo after deidara is dead because is 99% sure that deidara dies if is directly hit by 4 standard attacks + combo started by MB on par power, since usually MB is heavily stacked on attack side).

all the teams i said can beat edo deidara, sailor sakura, jigokudo, CF lineup on par power, some of them even if they don't own initiative.




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On 2018-01-22 23:26:12Show All Posts
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  • Kuro하돌 On 2018-01-22 23:15:29
  • yes that can but i said "some" u need high power , for the op he probably want a counter ( low lvl / low ini / low power) Seems they all dont know how to use it? dont give an excuse , i just use this team not even a month i still dont know how to use it properly


    with deidara that had high power u cant really do much thing

    only u can do is control it but sometimes they failed to control it even shark bom and kushimaru mystery .


    not all deidara user , use with that lineup . i did beat MB high hitter team ( hidan team / Common Blitz . his mb cant kill my deidara cuz high def and life ).

    dont give a team that only can beat on arena . i know u love arena so much .

Lets take this example: Ay 3rd, samui, darui, AF lineup.

I wait for jigokudo to heal and then i use skewering to start a combo on deidara after the first summon explodes, following round i use Ay3rd mystery on deidara (at 100 chakra since nature energy gather is sure to give them to me due to deidara summons that died) there's no way on par power that deidara doesn't die after all of this damage endured and i interrupt jigokudo with samui.

game over.

I can explain every lineup perfect behaviour for it to work, if needed.




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On 2018-01-25 01:10:38Show All Posts
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  • Zelgadis~ On 2018-01-24 19:36:31
  • I run the team Garv talks about in swb. I am around 100k power currently.

    The skewering combo on the usual 20-22k hp enemy 100k deidara lands 8-10k damage + deidara is sure to be hit once if not twice by darui standard attack. Are 12-16k damage in round 1. Even if you use main mystery sakura and jigokudo heals back 2500 each one. So deidara at the beginning of round 2 is at 11-15k hp. My Ay 3rd mystery alone with 100-20 chakra in round 2 land on the usual 100k edo deidara 7-8k alone if does not crit. Add to it the 3 chases of ay + the chases of samui, main and darui + eventual darui mystery that for sure lands more damage than sailor sakura mystery can heal and you are indeed sure to bring him to 0 hp.

    In the very worst case, what happens is that deidara survives with less than 2k hp, but if this happens is even better because, if you own initiative over jigokudo darui double standard + another skewering surely kill him even if healed back by 2500 sakura passive and is very easy to counter his mystery with samui since to not risk to get the mystery delayed to the following round he needs to absolutely cast it asap. If jigokudo owns initiative he heals deidara before darui moves, so can not use the mystery and darui double standard + skewering kill deidara the same since summed they for sure land more than 7k damage.

    I would like to add up that if you run shark bomb against that specific enemy you land even more damage but in swb skewering is better because let you deal with mbs, bds and sbs that made themselves or other ninjas immune.


    EDIT: i just noticed the usual 100k deidara hits 20-22k hp only if is hp mooded (otherwise stays around 18k) and the value of the damage i said are that way because deidara is never placed on a defensive tactics square. Moreover, to run edo sasori you need to not run or sailor sakura or jigokudo and thiw means they do not heal deidara. In sasori case, then add a minimum of 5k damage more not healed.



+1


in truth is even worse, since those are the stats of the usual deidaras at 100k power:


itachi

zindor

i brought those two examples.

Don't tell me with 8k defense and with elemental weakness to lightning that Edo Deidara don't get directly owned by a 14-15k atk Ay 3rd mystery + full combo after that it endured the skewering combo + darui standards from the previous round because none would believe it.





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