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On 2017-12-26 11:19:08Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Okay guys, so I thought I should just completely ignore Han as most other people says here.
Right now, I have Roshi, and almost done getting Sailor Uniform Sakura.
Now my biggest obstacle in Sage is actually the cloud meta team, that 3rd Ay is no joke and the Earth main cleanse just makes him unstoppable.
Even in my home server, most of them run full buff teams.

So, should I really just ignore the idea of getting Han? (Already have Fu btw, so I'm probably at >60 draws there)
I've never got past Kage rank in arena, so I'm thinking if getting Han would make it possible for me to reach six paths.
Please give your honest objective insights. I prefer anything, be it for or against the idea, just as long as it is not biased.
What I truly despise is those who discourage us just cause they don't wanna see another cancer team anymore.
I'd really prefer an objective response, not driven by any biases.
Thanks.





This post was last edited by Allyrianne on 2017-12-26 11:19:08.
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On 2017-12-26 11:32:19Show this Author Only
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I have Han, Water Main, Roshi, Sailor Sakura and Cloud meta just destroys my team. Either Roshi dies in 1 round in Arena or Roshi dies round 1 in Arena against cloud team. (This was against LM though). Clearing buffs "help", but still need to get rid of the barrier which I haven't been able to do. Doesn't matter if Roshi is in Position 1 or 2.

But its a hit or miss when going into Ranked Arena, I got up to Super Kage rank going through 46-50 going back to 46. Capped at 54 though.

If you have more initiative than I do, then you should be fine.

You may have to go experimental Ninjutsu to counter Roshi dying in arena in round 1. But then you lose Poison Tai.

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On 2017-12-26 11:37:34Show this Author Only
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2017-12-26 11:32:19
  • I have Han, Water Main, Roshi, Sailor Sakura and Cloud meta just destroys my team. Either Roshi dies in 1 round in Arena or Roshi dies round 1 in Arena against cloud team. (This was against LM though). Clearing buffs "help", but still need to get rid of the barrier which I haven't been able to do. Doesn't matter if Roshi is in Position 1 or 2.

    But its a hit or miss when going into Ranked Arena, I got up to Super Kage rank going through 46-50 going back to 46. Capped at 54 though.

    If you have more initiative than I do, then you should be fine.

    You may have to go experimental Ninjutsu to counter Roshi dying in arena in round 1. But then you lose Poison Tai.

Isn't the goal of ranked arena to win, despite how long the battle last?
Would it still be fair to think Roshi's ignite would still do minimal damage while experimentation lets me heal every other round?
Experimentation also synergises with Sailor's mystery, and you can have an AoE healing every round as both of them heal every other round.
In what ways does your Roshi die by round 1?
Does he still die despite using experimentation?
How about SWB? Obviously, non-arena battles are a different story. Did you still get owned by cloud meta teams in SWB?

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On 2017-12-26 11:39:13Show this Author Only
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pick ninjas based on the following catergories

a) does it fill a roll you dont currently have

b) do you need it to run with your ideal future ninjas or current ones

c) do you like it

any and all of the above matter when deciding to pick a ninja, unless you are * p2w every ninja is usable if your good enough, han is no exception


~edit~

i achieved 6 paths on another account using roshi, fuguki, sailor sakura and water by removing every single ini item then outplaying teams and punishing mistakes





This post was last edited by Akidonoki on 2017-12-26 11:40:47.
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On 2017-12-26 12:07:54Show this Author Only
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I honestly don`t feel like han helps alot againsnt cloud team cuz it will only permanently remove samui`s buff. Ay himself scales with chakra so that cant be cleared, barrier buff when using darui cant be cleared by han and by the end of the round when main gives shields his passive buff will be on again. Just my reasoning against that particular team. About Han overall i think thats his spotlight is kinda over now, he shined when he was first introduced to counter the meta teams at the time but now meta isnt revolving much around buffs so in the long run i feeli like gnw treasure should be better. And btw if you want an easy team for arena i usually use a different one every month to get 6 path and this month i used roshi wind main kurotsushi asuma wb with dust dance the 10 hit standard, 10 hit chase, wind dance and last passive can be clones or blindness and rhino as summon.

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On 2017-12-26 23:03:46Show this Author Only
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  • Allyrianne On 2017-12-26 11:37:34
  • Isn't the goal of ranked arena to win, despite how long the battle last?
    Would it still be fair to think Roshi's ignite would still do minimal damage while experimentation lets me heal every other round?
    Experimentation also synergises with Sailor's mystery, and you can have an AoE healing every round as both of them heal every other round.
    In what ways does your Roshi die by round 1?
    Does he still die despite using experimentation?
    How about SWB? Obviously, non-arena battles are a different story. Did you still get owned by cloud meta teams in SWB?

"Isn't the goal of ranked arena to win, despite how long the battle last?" Ideally, but when roshi dies, the team falls apart :L

Would it still be fair to think Roshi's ignite would still do minimal damage while experimentation lets me heal every other round? May not be enough damage though.

Experimentation also synergises with Sailor's mystery, and you can have an AoE healing every round as both of them heal every other round. "Poison Tai is basically a must cause that is where most of your damage comes from."

"In what ways does your Roshi die by round 1?" Samui Mystery on Roshi round 1. LM use Assassination Blade Talent to always attack Roshi since it has the Least HP Chases happen and 3rd Raikage kills Roshi if not the extra attacks from LM will.

"Does he still die despite using experimentation?" I never used that talent as I stated Poison Tai is a must since it is where your damage comes from.

"How about SWB? Obviously, non-arena battles are a different story. Did you still get owned by cloud meta teams in SWB?" I don't participate in SWB as I only end up feeding, also rewards are mediocre.


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On 2017-12-26 23:25:02Show this Author Only
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2017-12-26 11:32:19
  • I have Han, Water Main, Roshi, Sailor Sakura and Cloud meta just destroys my team. Either Roshi dies in 1 round in Arena or Roshi dies round 1 in Arena against cloud team. (This was against LM though). Clearing buffs "help", but still need to get rid of the barrier which I haven't been able to do. Doesn't matter if Roshi is in Position 1 or 2.

    But its a hit or miss when going into Ranked Arena, I got up to Super Kage rank going through 46-50 going back to 46. Capped at 54 though.

    If you have more initiative than I do, then you should be fine.

    You may have to go experimental Ninjutsu to counter Roshi dying in arena in round 1. But then you lose Poison Tai.

cloud meta with ay 3rd destroys your team only if your azure fang is not mooded hp (up to 10k more power), but if you talk about arena... it's even better since in arena poison matters 100 times more than outside arena.

Seriously, i've never ever lost once in arena against that team, but you have to use the neurotoxin version (with lightning tiger and 3rd chase).

Ay 4th version with MB, instead, is a different matter.





This post was last edited by Garv on 2017-12-26 23:27:32.
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On 2017-12-26 23:28:40Show this Author Only
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  • Allyrianne On 2017-12-26 11:37:34
  • Isn't the goal of ranked arena to win, despite how long the battle last?
    Would it still be fair to think Roshi's ignite would still do minimal damage while experimentation lets me heal every other round?
    Experimentation also synergises with Sailor's mystery, and you can have an AoE healing every round as both of them heal every other round.
    In what ways does your Roshi die by round 1?
    Does he still die despite using experimentation?
    How about SWB? Obviously, non-arena battles are a different story. Did you still get owned by cloud meta teams in SWB?

but no at this point i wouldn't go for han if i was in you, you'll eventually get him within this year with free draws.

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On 2017-12-27 00:13:22Show this Author Only
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  • Garv On 2017-12-26 23:25:02
  • cloud meta with ay 3rd destroys your team only if your azure fang is not mooded hp (up to 10k more power), but if you talk about arena... it's even better since in arena poison matters 100 times more than outside arena.

    Seriously, i've never ever lost once in arena against that team, but you have to use the neurotoxin version (with lightning tiger and 3rd chase).

    Ay 4th version with MB, instead, is a different matter.


Yeah I was running Neurotoxin, sadly they had more initiative than me and with no damage mystery round 1, have to wait for round 2. But thats pointless cause Roshi dies. Whom is mooded in life and my main as well. But moods don't matter in Arena sadly.

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On 2017-12-27 00:29:32Show this Author Only
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Have han, fully awaken and never actually used him nor ever will.

Now that is just me since i hate cancer and cancer players, but overall just using masked man instead of han is far better outcome.

Overall, still regretting those 200 scrolls spent there, since new treasure is here, so going for han now is just plain * imo.

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