No Idea how to deal with this team, this team and cloud support ay/A teams are preventing me from reaching sennin in arena.

On par 1v1s against water teams that include sailor and poison are imo game breaking and impossible to beat unless there's a large pool of CC available on your side like I * you not I've tried everything and nothing works other than simply having enough dmg to burst down the healers before it's too late or keeping both healers perma ccd until you pound them to death. You can do all the damage in the world and all it takes for this team to come back full hp is one standard heal from sailor or water enough to dispell the other healer and then double heal cancer mysteries go off and boom back o full health, it's *ed asf... I've seen teams like fire with 3rd mystery plus mask obito shut down sailor teams but it's gotta be before round 3 otherwise you lose regardless, if you're aware many people use teams like that in sageworld it might be a good idea to switch to 3rd mystery if you're fire and arm yourself with cc or just switch to water and join the cancer

This is what I use (2nd post)

https://forum-narutoen.oasgames.com/page/show-post-24256-1.html

Lock water main with masked man, control sakura with fire main's immobile.Attack and kill water main first,then roshi ,then han and finally sakura.

If you have king of hell or susanoo itachi that team is not a problem but they are expensive.

Save your scrolls for cloud treasure, Ay(finger guy) is the death to these healing teams.

Could you please explain why is the raikage A deadly to heal teams? i plan to use him when his treasure comes up.

Or

It's a trade secret.

Don't tell anyone

His dmg is mostly based on chakra, not buffs that can be removed by han. R1 he already hits hard, R2 with full chakra and chases = basically a dead target + heavily damaged others in line.

Yeah, I've thought about new blitz once cloud treasure comes out, but thats still few weeks from now, if not months.

JustSaying, my scenario states, that their han c*ways go off, so basically any short term buffs are wasted (fire enhancement), leech might still be useful though. Im halfway there to get obito and hidan, sasuke hopefully within 100 seals now, will give it a try once i get them.

Tobei, could you elaborate? Right now sounds good, doesnt neccessarily work. They have 2 costant sources of debuffs, often with chaos during chase from main. Cant think of main + ninja, that would deal enough dmg without buffs to kill main.

Btw. if we could rule out susanoo itachi and make a team of any other available ninjas, including super rares from all other treasures except cloud, that would be nice.

Position 4 Hanzo or Gakido

The layer of debuff that matters is Poison. You can deal with Ignite.

If they're running Chaos instead of amplified healing, That's better for you.

A simple team that works quite well is Sage Naruto/Bee/Hanzo/Sailor

Doesn't focus on buffs, and has enough self-sustain.

Or better yet.

Roshi/Bee/Hanzo/Sailor

Notice how I'm keeping with Hanzo+Sailor. It hard counters that chaos combo, Either Hanzo will remove it and give your Sailor a standard to remove a layer with her heal. Or your sailor will heal off Hanzo.

That Han team is better with Mei, not Roshi.

Oh i see tyvm for your reply, that A mystery with full chakra its deadly i plan to use him on a vanilla team with samui and omoi for now, well Acer1 told me that he will try to rush the cloud treasure hope Tobei can do the same and get us that sweet treasure earlier.

Btw Tobei im looking foward for your updated tier list when cloud treasure comes up, it was really funny what Raikage A speed round description said about him.

Nah dude neither hanzo nor gakido are going to work in a formation against healer teams lol plus having mei over roshi makes the team a lot weaker because a healer team relies heavily on the tankyness of both roshi and han combined, the whole team works mainly thanks to han and roshis ability to take the hit and live through it while mei's gonna get *n up by any obito mask centered builds easily like straight up gone post 2nd round...

As at equal power or less than a few thousands can still win

Play by number of hits.

Yugito, Roshi, Sailor and Water. make sure roshi can trigger 30 hits every round then u will win. < This team even on auto you will still win.

That team has large CD 3 on each use that cooldown to turn your table.

by round 3 or 4 BOTH Main and sailor should die.

Talent 32113 or 32111, summon monkey.

Not a easy team to get, but it's a hard counter to roshi han teams. Even if the roshi han team is 30k pow higher than me, still a free kill.

You say they don't.

I'm saying they do.

And they're very possible to beat. Or else I wouldn't be suggesting Hanzo/Gakido.

I've faced this team and frankly, it's extremely subpar if you're consistently able to deal with its debuff spam.

" the whole team works mainly thanks to han and roshis ability to take the hit" You're ignoring the Poison/Ignite(If Roshi is hit) part.

Han doesn't deal damage and Roshi is extremely situational as his mystery is weak early on. You don't have reliability and are forced to accept a mystery for a few rounds.

Mei provides that "ump" you need. Of course, they're gonna focus her, that's why you have two healers. If Masked Man focuses her end of T1, she'll be healed T2.
Nobody in their right mind would use their hard CC on Mei while there are two healers armed and ready for a 0 cost mystery. Also R2, It's Han that's gonna attack, Not Mei.

Mei provides the field aura(barrier) and allows Han to ACTUALLY have some input with his mystery.

" You can replace the mystery with sealing and use it on sailor.Using genjutsu mirror will make han useless." Enhancement is for mabui ,1010, mei teams:P I use that team in sage and having sucess against that team (as long as power is similar).

P.S:Made a mistake with killing order,right order is : WM,roshi, sakura and han.

I run han roshi sakura af team and i can tell you that on par power in swb i lose only against cursed hidan bee sst roshi af team or itachi susano'o teams while is 50/50 against masked man teams. Gakido or Hanzos team don't work because usually in teams like those sakura is slower than them and apply poison after they cleaned. Remember also that if both poison and ignition are applied first is ignition that gets removed.

also just want to confirm he costs 210 seal scrolls just like roshi and Han right? I saw a post somewhere saying 210 for A third raikage

That's correct.

Then why is he so much cheaper then ay 4th raikage because I heard he is just as good as ay with cloud or tag oriented teams.

4th is focused on outright being a blitz juggernaut.

3rd not so much. He mostly relies on his mystery/chase synergies

Both can have roughly the same team with Samui supporting, but it'll be more effective in the 4th's hands as his damage will come T1. (Unless you're facing a Masked Man)

What world you live in guys exactly? Fire main, Possession Hidan, Masked, Onoki, King of Hell. With same power usually main dead round 1. Little less power and both sailor and main dies. Depends who you manage to tag, ignite and poison. You c*so use Possession Hidan, Roshi, Masked/Bee. Again with King of Hell. Double attack on Hidan. Whoever survives should die round 2 to Roshi. Easy. You can as well use Roshi, Han, Fire and Hanzo with King of Hell. But that might be a very long fight.