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Hello Ninjas,


as per previous Event Feedback threads, we will be opening another one for this week Events - 7th September suggestions and improvements idea towards our events are all welcomed. This is one of our critical action and necessity for our community to grow, as it allow us to identify and improve our overall content and events for all of our players. Following format shall be used in order to ensure a uniform and ease data collection towards the end of the week.


Example:-

Server : 34

Region : HK

Current BP : 58K

Events : Lucky Board

Opinion : The current ninjas offered in Lucky Board is outdated : Sage Jiraiya

Reasoning : With the current treasure and meta, it is very hard to find a spot for Sage Jiraiya, a universal ninja which can suit into multiple type of strategy would serve better example : Sage Naruto. On top of that, it has been Sage Jiraiya for past few months a new ninja would be a good change.

Suggestions : To replace Sage Jiraiya with Sage Naruto Fragments


We would also, like to inform everyone that we are trying our best to push for changes / improvements that the players have suggested. However, the final decision would be at the hand of the management and there is no guarantee of the time it might takes.

Fortunately, please rest *ured as all your feedbacks are being entertained by our team and will always be in our discussions. The example that we have provided is merely a guideline for everyone, feel free to elaborate on your reasonings/suggestions to ensure the message are throughly communicated.


Any unrelated comments or posts that doesn't follow the format will be deleted.


Thank you.

Naruto Online Operation Team


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On 2017-09-08 10:12:26Show this Author Only
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Server : 241

Region : HK

Current BP : 72k

Events : all events

Opinion : Not many useful ninjas to buy

Reasoning : with current water meta we need more control and interrupt ninjas. Konoha gift shop is the only thing worth spending on.

Suggestions : Add masked man and jonin minato. Wouldn't mind if they were ingot only.Guy's tortoise and Naruto 9 tails chakara fragments in balloon events\ also help.





This post was last edited by JustSaying on 2017-09-11 14:57:16.
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On 2017-09-08 14:55:10Show this Author Only
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Server : 30

Region : HK

Current BP : 63k

Event : NA

we need coupons rebate why only ingots better add coupons rebate event for F2P we can get some cp back after spending on buying ninja 12k up or more hope u agree this piont for us.





This post was last edited by Powell on 2017-09-08 14:56:33.
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On 2017-09-08 15:08:00Show this Author Only
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Server : 419

Region : LA

Current BP : 71k

Events : Mission General Mobilization

Opinion : Strongest Ninja Utakata???: There are many ninjas that can take his place, rather have someone reassuring like DP Hidan over Utakata

Reasoning : This ninja can be pulled in treasures, there should be a strict set of ninjas in the "Strongest Ninjas" list, rotating weekly, ninjas like DP Hidan, Minato, Obito, Susano'o(s) can't be pulled (for the most part.) An event like this which is something people look forward to makes you sad after when you realize the ninjas obtainable are useless. Not many people use Chiyo, Playboy sasuke is in probably 2/4 events monthly, and Sage Naruto is getting outdated.

better example : Certain ninjas are in demand or harder to obtain, make it so players will be happy and want to spend on events.

Suggestions : To replace Sage Jiraiya with Sage Naruto Fragments


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On 2017-09-08 18:06:28Show this Author Only
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Server : 163

Region : UK

Current BP : 131K

Events : general mission mobilization

Opinion : The drop rate of first hokage and minato fragments are weird

Reasoning : I spent about 31000 ingots buying mission boxes but there's no any minato&hashirama frags

Suggestions : Refund or mail the ninja fragments


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updated: I recharge 18000 ingots (totally 49k) more and exchange everything but still ain't get any NINJA FRAGMENTS!!!! WT.............





This post was last edited by miffypuffy on 2017-09-09 08:59:40.
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On 2017-09-09 02:00:56Show this Author Only
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that's depressing ^

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On 2017-09-09 07:44:46Show this Author Only
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wow that is very very depressing

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  • miffypuffy On 2017-09-08 18:06:28
  • Server : 163

    Region : UK

    Current BP : 131K

    Events : general mission mobilization

    Opinion : The drop rate of first hokage and minato fragments are weird

    Reasoning : I spent about 31000 ingots buying mission boxes but there's no any minato&hashirama frags

    Suggestions : Refund or mail the ninja fragments


    螢幕擷取畫面 (17)

    updated: I recharge 18000 ingots (totally 49k) more and exchange everything but still ain't get any NINJA FRAGMENTS!!!! WT.............


I hate to be that person...but you're spending with the intent of getting fragments vs receiving them as a bonus for opening all those boxes. You can't spend on chance and demand that you were cheated. There is no threshold but surely you understand this. Someone in my server last event was mad because they topped up 40k to get the Naruto frags from the lucky slots and had didn't get him.. Its not a guaranteed thing. Its like spending all that money on lotto tickets, while your chances for winning do go up....you winning the grand prize is still negligible due to the simply fact its all probability. I cant tell you how to spend the money you make but I will say spend on a guarantee, I learned my lesson from the lucky star event last year, wont make that mistake ever again.

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On 2017-09-09 15:22:59Show this Author Only
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Server : 34

Region : HK

Current BP : 58K

Events : Mission Mobilization

Opinion : The guy above did not get any frags after topping up 49k inggots.

Reasoning : With the current system people might think that they don't have chance to get ninja fragments.

let's calculate:

49000 inggots / 20 = 2450 gift box

let's say the drop rate is at 0.01%. Correct me if I'm wrong please:

0.01% X 2450 = you must have 24.5% chance to get them

but if the drop rate is 0.001

therefore

0.001% x 2450 = 2.45% chance to get them.

If my guess is correct you need 100,000 giftbox to get them 100%

OASIS doesn't publish their drop rates because according to TOBEI it's a company decision, therefore, unless they publish their drop rate don't rely on getting those ninjas from boxes.

Suggestions : Publish drop rates of each ninja from box to avoid unnecessary hate and outrage from forums. Also please DON't delete this post. This is a suggestion that might help the company grow.





This post was last edited by 清美風香 on 2017-09-09 15:24:24.
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  • 清美風香 On 2017-09-09 15:22:59
  • Server : 34

    Region : HK

    Current BP : 58K

    Events : Mission Mobilization

    Opinion : The guy above did not get any frags after topping up 49k inggots.

    Reasoning : With the current system people might think that they don't have chance to get ninja fragments.

    let's calculate:

    49000 inggots / 20 = 2450 gift box

    let's say the drop rate is at 0.01%. Correct me if I'm wrong please:

    0.01% X 2450 = you must have 24.5% chance to get them

    but if the drop rate is 0.001

    therefore

    0.001% x 2450 = 2.45% chance to get them.

    If my guess is correct you need 100,000 giftbox to get them 100%

    OASIS doesn't publish their drop rates because according to TOBEI it's a company decision, therefore, unless they publish their drop rate don't rely on getting those ninjas from boxes.

    Suggestions : Publish drop rates of each ninja from box to avoid unnecessary hate and outrage from forums. Also please DON't delete this post. This is a suggestion that might help the company grow.


thats not how it works

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  • 清美風香 On 2017-09-09 15:22:59
  • Server : 34

    Region : HK

    Current BP : 58K

    Events : Mission Mobilization

    Opinion : The guy above did not get any frags after topping up 49k inggots.

    Reasoning : With the current system people might think that they don't have chance to get ninja fragments.

    let's calculate:

    49000 inggots / 20 = 2450 gift box

    let's say the drop rate is at 0.01%. Correct me if I'm wrong please:

    0.01% X 2450 = you must have 24.5% chance to get them

    but if the drop rate is 0.001

    therefore

    0.001% x 2450 = 2.45% chance to get them.

    If my guess is correct you need 100,000 giftbox to get them 100%

    OASIS doesn't publish their drop rates because according to TOBEI it's a company decision, therefore, unless they publish their drop rate don't rely on getting those ninjas from boxes.

    Suggestions : Publish drop rates of each ninja from box to avoid unnecessary hate and outrage from forums. Also please DON't delete this post. This is a suggestion that might help the company grow.


So, if you roll a dice 7 times is sure that you get an 1? and if you flip a coin 2 times is sure that you get at least once tails? This is not how probability works. Anyways, going back to the point, what the 2450 packs guy showed without any doubts is that the policy of 1 ninja per server per day is back EVEN IF THEY ASSURED US THAT IT WOULDN'T EVER COME BACK.

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On 2017-09-09 22:05:09Show this Author Only
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  • Shinara On 2017-09-09 21:05:32
  • thats not how it works

How does it work though? Can you show me a sample?

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  • 清美風香 On 2017-09-09 22:05:09
  • How does it work though? Can you show me a sample?

You imply that if i don't get a rare ninja, the chance for it goes up. That's not the case. It's still the same flat percentage. That would be like saying if i toss a coin and get heads, the second toss will be a guaranteed tails. We don't know anything until Oasis publishes the drop rates.

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On 2017-09-10 04:00:18Show this Author Only
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  • 清美風香 On 2017-09-09 22:05:09
  • How does it work though? Can you show me a sample?

Here is how probability works in an example.

Say you have 10 boxes.

In each box they have 11 pieces of paper inside.

On 1 piece of paper has a number. The rest are blank.

You * the hand in the first box and pull out 1 piece of paper

You have (if I did the math right) 9% in getting the piece of paper with a number on it.

Here is the fun part,

Each box you try and pull the paper with a number on it all have the same chance. So by your logic you should have a 90% chance with 10 boxes to get a piece of paper with a number on it. Sadly that isn't how that works as probability isn't ac*ulative since every box has the same % as each other.

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On 2017-09-10 04:28:53Show this Author Only
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now think of it. 9% chance in each of 2500 boxes - if you didnt get any then what are chances for?

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On 2017-09-10 04:33:01Show this Author Only
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  • miffypuffy On 2017-09-08 18:06:28
  • Server : 163

    Region : UK

    Current BP : 131K

    Events : general mission mobilization

    Opinion : The drop rate of first hokage and minato fragments are weird

    Reasoning : I spent about 31000 ingots buying mission boxes but there's no any minato&hashirama frags

    Suggestions : Refund or mail the ninja fragments


    螢幕擷取畫面 (17)

    updated: I recharge 18000 ingots (totally 49k) more and exchange everything but still ain't get any NINJA FRAGMENTS!!!! WT.............


Ok I will get it if u were trying to get susano itachi...but minato...the past two weeks he was a 11k ingot and 12-13k coupon ninja...for you to be spending that much on boxes is just...well you probably know by now...im just sad that you didn't get anything of it.

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  • miffypuffy On 2017-09-08 18:06:28
  • Server : 163

    Region : UK

    Current BP : 131K

    Events : general mission mobilization

    Opinion : The drop rate of first hokage and minato fragments are weird

    Reasoning : I spent about 31000 ingots buying mission boxes but there's no any minato&hashirama frags

    Suggestions : Refund or mail the ninja fragments


    螢幕擷取畫面 (17)

    updated: I recharge 18000 ingots (totally 49k) more and exchange everything but still ain't get any NINJA FRAGMENTS!!!! WT.............


All im gonna say is in the past ninjas drop rates from giftboxes have been 0% so i doubt that has changed. Tho somehow theres always a few low lvls in every server who get lucky and get one everyone else gets a thumb in their bum. Theres a first time for everything so from now on dont bother with luck based events.





This post was last edited by Numbers on 2017-09-10 06:46:25.
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On 2017-09-10 10:56:09Show this Author Only
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Server : S18-Haku

Region : NY

Current BP : 52k at max, primary team is 49.5k

Events : Mission generalization globalization

Opinion : It seems hopeless, good Sasuke frag pricing though, you can get all 30 frags

Reasoning : It'll do 2 things. First it'll make things more...legal, and second off, it could motivate people to invest more into the boxes

Suggestion : Add chances


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On 2017-09-10 11:18:39Show this Author Only
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  • 清美風香 On 2017-09-09 15:22:59
  • Server : 34

    Region : HK

    Current BP : 58K

    Events : Mission Mobilization

    Opinion : The guy above did not get any frags after topping up 49k inggots.

    Reasoning : With the current system people might think that they don't have chance to get ninja fragments.

    let's calculate:

    49000 inggots / 20 = 2450 gift box

    let's say the drop rate is at 0.01%. Correct me if I'm wrong please:

    0.01% X 2450 = you must have 24.5% chance to get them

    but if the drop rate is 0.001

    therefore

    0.001% x 2450 = 2.45% chance to get them.

    If my guess is correct you need 100,000 giftbox to get them 100%

    OASIS doesn't publish their drop rates because according to TOBEI it's a company decision, therefore, unless they publish their drop rate don't rely on getting those ninjas from boxes.

    Suggestions : Publish drop rates of each ninja from box to avoid unnecessary hate and outrage from forums. Also please DON't delete this post. This is a suggestion that might help the company grow.


Yea, we all wish Oasis would publish their drop rates. Unfortunately for players, Oasis won't do that. Obviously the point is not to publish drop rates to keep players spending more and more money. So it is unlikely for Oasis to publish the drop rates unless the want to make less money (,of course).

Hopefully this post doesn't get deleted.





This post was last edited by Light1 on 2017-09-11 05:17:38.
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On 2017-09-10 15:52:19Show this Author Only
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Server : S04- Kakashi

Region : LA

Current BP :82k

Events : Shinobi Feast - "Lucky Feast"

Opinion : 9600 ingots for 12 Susano'o Itachi fragments might seem a little much don't you think? And the drop-rate is extremely low on the wheel as well.

Reasoning : If players are willing to invest a specific amount of money in the game, they definitely should receive an equal amount of treatment / reward back. This game is completely a fishing game that fishes player's money after the developers drastically lowered the chance of receiving better rewards from the events due to greed. (For Ex. Crazy Slot Machine). If you'd like your company to grow, you should treat your customers honestly, not trying to deceive and jack money off them. "Naruto" is meant to give players joy, not making them spend cash and get them even more disappointed from the ridiculous rewards given.

Suggestion: Be honest to your customers, regardless of them being a paying player or not.





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