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[ Events ] Like srsly why the pill is so expensive and you dont get anything of it

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On 2017-09-06 19:45:34Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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So I got the breakthrough pill and I just cant understand why is it so expensive with the way very hard to get and it doesn't do anything...even used it on my one level 10 refine..

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On 2017-09-06 20:45:51Show this Author Only
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One doesn't do much, 300 do a lot.

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On 2017-09-06 20:49:55Show this Author Only
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Well ... 300 in 300 months ...sounds good to me :-D





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On 2017-09-07 02:51:31Show this Author Only
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  • S.H.I.E.L.D On 2017-09-06 20:49:55
  • Well ... 300 in 300 months ...sounds good to me :-D


The idea is to give out more later in easier ways. As you saw up to this event was a feature fully for p2w, this event they put them as a reward for f2p too in the rebate. If you bought all of them since they appeared now you would have something like a +10% on that level 10 refined thing that begins to be something.

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On 2017-09-07 03:03:38Show this Author Only
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If you are asking, this isn't really for you, yet.

The thing is that most feature have diminishing return. So eventually, even something like this gets good. This is especially true since it compounds with refine, so by the time you hit heavy diminishing return, this will actually give fairly good returns.

Regardless of if it's made available to ftp or ptp, it is an item designed for heavy ptws

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On 2017-09-07 03:10:32Show this Author Only
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I'm actually surprised they gave it as the highest reward for 500 refinement rebate.


It actually cost 5000 coupons in the lucky wheel event as the highest spending reward.

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On 2017-09-07 10:12:30Show this Author Only
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i some how as a free to play managed to get my hands on this pill since i had saved 400 refines runes and got 100 from LB.and after using the pill on my lvl 8 refined item with lvl 6 charm i got a wooping 4 BP.

I was like is this for real?

so i assume this is only for the super whales with maxed refine and charm to get a bit more of power.





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On 2017-09-07 10:18:20Show this Author Only
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You only get about 12 bp for a lvl 10 item with orange purifys. It really is that insignificant... but may be the only option for super heavy spenders to get that extra init advantage.

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On 2017-09-07 10:57:24Show this Author Only
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u get 6 of each refine stat when used on a lvl 10 refined item, i can get more stats for less by using the summon cultivation.




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On 2017-09-07 11:05:31Show this Author Only
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  • Shadoblaze On 2017-09-07 10:57:24
  • u get 6 of each refine stat when used on a lvl 10 refined item, i can get more stats for less by using the summon cultivation.

yup, i believe you need at least 50 of these pills to see any difference,not sure how much that costs though.

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On 2017-09-07 13:26:41Show this Author Only
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This is end game material guys. You won't see the effects until you are refinement level 10 with orange purifys.

Because after you get there, there is literally no way to improve yourself other than this pill, that is why it is called breakthrough pill.


Majority of us here aren't even at the level needed for a breakthrough lol.

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On 2017-09-10 09:54:17Show this Author Only
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  • Waifuu On 2017-09-07 13:26:41
  • This is end game material guys. You won't see the effects until you are refinement level 10 with orange purifys.

    Because after you get there, there is literally no way to improve yourself other than this pill, that is why it is called breakthrough pill.


    Majority of us here aren't even at the level needed for a breakthrough lol.

i have lvl 10 refines with gold stats, the pills still only give 6 of each stat, they aren't worth it. if u do the math with the lvl 5 mag box in lucky wheel vs the pill, just going by the amounts of pulls from the previous to the item (which reduces the cost of the pills a lot more and they still fail to be worth it).


the mag box cost 800 coupons minus free spins from the previous reward so the cost is really only 760, but since 800 is an easier number lets work with that.

the pill costs 4k coupons.


a level 5 mag gives 405 exp, you need 6 of them to level a level 6 mag your currently using to level 7, let assume the box only gives you 1 type of mag for ease of calculations with smaller numbers(if you do the math with larger data sets it works out to be the same costs/value but the mags even out naturally anyway). So 6 * 800 = 4800 and that gives over 50 power regardless of mag type.


the pill gives max 12 power with lvl 10 refine.


4000/12 = 333.3 coupons per power

4800/50= 96 coupons per power

if you do the math with a level 7 mag going to 8, the cost triples and the power increases 50% so its:

14400/75 = 192

which is still better than the pill and mags have horrible scaling for power, so the fact that its better to work on level 8 mags rather than these pills shows how worthless the pills are.


there is no other item with that horrible of a cost to power ratio, its never worth it to buy even for people like kozo with 250k power.

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On 2017-09-11 15:33:06Show this Author Only
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I thought the point of the pill and the percentage being so low and them being so rare was that they have no cap, so you could use 10, 100 pills or even 1000 and keep gaining from them forever the more you use.

Is that not how they work?

Looking at it like that it made sense to me.


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On 2017-09-11 21:32:18Show this Author Only
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Yeah got it used it on level 10 refine rune doesnt do much...well it kinda was free cause got adv refines so used them all...

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On 2017-09-11 22:29:25Show this Author Only
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  • Immortal Utsuro On 2017-09-11 15:33:06
  • I thought the point of the pill and the percentage being so low and them being so rare was that they have no cap, so you could use 10, 100 pills or even 1000 and keep gaining from them forever the more you use.

    Is that not how they work?

    Looking at it like that it made sense to me.


even if they have no cap they still arent worth it, new ways to gain power come out often and give way more power for less cost, no f2p should even look at these they just cost that much, no one but the biggest of whales with $100k that they can throw into this game should look at these at their current prices.


maybe if they drop the price to reflect the power gains better then these will be worth looking at, but when you have to invest 10k coupons into a wheel to get 1 pill, its just too much and takes too long to see any noticable difference, if you are doing an event and get these anyway, sure its free power, but no1 should go out of their way for them.

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