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On 2017-06-26 08:57:59Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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I've been using Roshi, but he keeps on dying too fast. Will he get buffed in the future?
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On 2017-06-26 09:05:03Show this Author Only
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1 . u lack of power to use roshi
2. u didnt have the lineup yet to use him
3. current roshi only works with certain ninja only
4. he will bet buffed in the future but dunno when
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On 2017-06-26 09:11:54Show this Author Only
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  • Anggara Permana On 2017-06-26 09:05:03
  • 1 . u lack of power to use roshi
    2. u didnt have the lineup yet to use him
    3. current roshi only works with certain ninja only
    4. he will bet buffed in the future but dunno when
1. My power is not weak. It is at 70k
2. I have the DPB Hidan, Bee, Roshi, Light Main lineup
3. It works with that team.
4. Ok thanks
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On 2017-06-26 09:21:39Show this Author Only
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lol nice reply.

Stack all defence runes, magamatas and highest defence charm stuff on him then he should be good.(Assuming you haven't done so)
Check moods maybe? And yeah he's yet to be buffed
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On 2017-06-26 09:55:26Show this Author Only
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This is the stat distribution of Roshi from the CN simulator:


For comparison this one is the stat distribution of a known tank (Kimimaro 3*):


On your question on why he dies too fast, I think that is normal, his stats really isn't for a tank. Actually I'm wondering why people expect Roshi to shrug of all the damage he takes. They expect too much out of the old man.

I'll share some of my observations. If Roshi is directly in front of 2-3 swordsmen, stacked with buffs, multi-hitting, has barrier boost; Roshi will die on Round 1. If Roshi is targeted by high damage Ninjutsu mysteries for consecutive rounds (Wind reset team); Roshi will die on Round 3.

You can do an easy solution by putting him in a place where he doesn't take much damage off standard attacks (maybe the bottom lane), else you will have to increase his survivability through shields.

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On 2017-06-26 14:27:13Show this Author Only
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just to clear some things, he is not gonna get any buff in future.....you just need to stack him hard otherwise he will die round 1 vs blitz teams
he is not ninja for low power people, thats sad true, Han is better option for f2p players but thats my opinion.
This post was last edited by Hasahyo at 2017-6-26 14:30
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On 2017-06-26 15:11:17Show this Author Only
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  • Hasahyo On 2017-06-26 14:27:13
  • just to clear some things, he is not gonna get any buff in future.....you just need to stack him hard otherwise he will die round 1 vs blitz teams
    he is not ninja for low power people, thats sad true, Han is better option for f2p players but thats my opinion.
    This post was last edited by Hasahyo at 2017-6-26 14:30
How can you so sure Roshi is not gonna change the formula in future? I guess somehow Oasis will do something to catch up the patch of chinese server in someday... and I agree with that Roshi is not for low people ppl... This post was last edited by sk8erboil at 2017-6-26 15:15
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On 2017-06-26 15:32:54Show this Author Only
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Try Earth. you lose out on his chase but he does his job. Other than that. Try playing around with different moodsets and max it out. Anything but +nin or attack is fine. Higher tactics fields for hp. Definitely charms. Aside from that different mains and running barrier ninjas with him is all you can really do.
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On 2017-06-26 23:20:33Show this Author Only
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  • sk8erboil On 2017-06-26 15:11:17
  • How can you so sure Roshi is not gonna change the formula in future? I guess somehow Oasis will do something to catch up the patch of chinese server in someday... and I agree with that Roshi is not for low people ppl... This post was last edited by sk8erboil at 2017-6-26 15:15
get over it with the buffing roshi in some time in the future.. china didnt have any update up on him.. i dont know who gets you these informations.. he remains like this.. stack him with life + defense and he will be a god.. otherwise go for Han . This post was last edited by Jor1 at 2017-7-2 15:42
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On 2017-06-27 00:12:02Show this Author Only
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  • Jori. On 2017-06-26 23:20:33
  • get over it with the buffing roshi in some time in the future.. china didnt have any update up on him.. i dont know who gets you these informations.. he remains like this.. stack him with life + defense and he will be a god.. otherwise go for Han . This post was last edited by Jor1 at 2017-7-2 15:42
the buff we talking about its not for roshi , its just the nerf of swordsman ninja mainly light main , pet buddy also help roshi to rise with the katsuyu heal
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On 2017-06-30 15:15:52Show this Author Only
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Hi there. This is my f2p roshi setup. avarage 50-60 hit combo round 1 unless its vs hinata/neji team or an immobile / chaos team.
https://gyazo.com/929b1f9faee2e41347e46b4ba1f886f3
https://gyazo.com/7058eedcafca3c4009884b5206483f64

I'm kinda low bp but i defeat people with 28-30k bp in my own server & in sage battlefield.

Why i chose to line up like this?
1/ Roshi upfront with near 4k shield & 8k hp. He will soak up alot. He has +25% ninjutsu and -5%resist. I had +25% health but this seems to work just as good if not better with the burst in round 1.
2/ Earth main will shield whoever is needed for 1.6k in round 1 with standards. He is positioned there because otherwise people in middle will also attack roshi. Roshi is pretty squishy and he might just die. Earth main is tanky from itself. 25% resistance -5% attack. Might go for 25% health up to the user
3/ Yagura i usualy steal a healer or someone of 10 combo. I might steal light main / guy for lifesteal if needed. Ofc yagura in back because he is weak.
4/ earth main mystery i would use vs nearly every non hinata / neji team round 1 . after killer bee's 1 st attack so i will 100% sure get 30 hit combo (use killer bee mystery on himself)
5/ Killer bee just as last on the bottom for the same reason i put my main in the middle. Soak up a few hits if they have units on bottom line.

This way u spread damage all over ur team. Yes ur team will all be "lower" hp in general. But the point of this team is to just DESTROY ur opponent round 1 & use roshi round 2 start . This usualy ends up in killing multiple enemy's. Once u get to the point with higher HP like you. It is still pretty viable but you'd probably want ur earth main infront of roshi or atleast steel body. I guess with the lineup you are talking about it would be good to try the same as me. Spread out the damage
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On 2017-06-30 17:10:00Show this Author Only
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  • Hasahyo On 2017-06-26 14:27:13
  • just to clear some things, he is not gonna get any buff in future.....you just need to stack him hard otherwise he will die round 1 vs blitz teams
    he is not ninja for low power people, thats sad true, Han is better option for f2p players but thats my opinion.
    This post was last edited by Hasahyo at 2017-6-26 14:30
Yes, the ninja itself is not going to get a buff, but the damage formula for every ninja is going to get changed in a way that gives more value to resistance and defense in comparison with our one, so stacking defense ninja like him will get an indirect buff.
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On 2017-06-30 18:03:56Show this Author Only
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There will be no buff for Roshi nor there will be any nerf for swordsman. The damage formula it's possible to be modified in future patches I don't know that. But the most probable reason that roshi has more survivability is that the power levels grow and it will be harder to one shot people (an intuitive reason for this is that out of the primary stats 2 are offensive and 3 are defensive and if you grow them at almost the same rate it's clear that survivability will be favoured to fast killing)
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On 2017-06-30 19:47:36Show this Author Only
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  • reijman@live.be On 2017-06-30 15:15:52
  • Hi there. This is my f2p roshi setup. avarage 50-60 hit combo round 1 unless its vs hinata/neji team or an immobile / chaos team.
    https://gyazo.com/929b1f9faee2e41347e46b4ba1f886f3
    https://gyazo.com/7058eedcafca3c4009884b5206483f64

    I'm kinda low bp but i defeat people with 28-30k bp in my own server & in sage battlefield.

    Why i chose to line up like this?
    1/ Roshi upfront with near 4k shield & 8k hp. He will soak up alot. He has +25% ninjutsu and -5%resist. I had +25% health but this seems to work just as good if not better with the burst in round 1.
    2/ Earth main will shield whoever is needed for 1.6k in round 1 with standards. He is positioned there because otherwise people in middle will also attack roshi. Roshi is pretty squishy and he might just die. Earth main is tanky from itself. 25% resistance -5% attack. Might go for 25% health up to the user
    3/ Yagura i usualy steal a healer or someone of 10 combo. I might steal light main / guy for lifesteal if needed. Ofc yagura in back because he is weak.
    4/ earth main mystery i would use vs nearly every non hinata / neji team round 1 . after killer bee's 1 st attack so i will 100% sure get 30 hit combo (use killer bee mystery on himself)
    5/ Killer bee just as last on the bottom for the same reason i put my main in the middle. Soak up a few hits if they have units on bottom line.

    This way u spread damage all over ur team. Yes ur team will all be "lower" hp in general. But the point of this team is to just DESTROY ur opponent round 1 & use roshi round 2 start . This usualy ends up in killing multiple enemy's. Once u get to the point with higher HP like you. It is still pretty viable but you'd probably want ur earth main infront of roshi or atleast steel body. I guess with the lineup you are talking about it would be good to try the same as me. Spread out the damage
Couldn't be better to swap Yagura for Sailor Sakura?
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On 2017-06-30 20:48:30Show this Author Only
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Yagura is a must due to him being able to steal someone for life steal , stealing someone for their chase , & doing a 15 hit chase himself. Atleast for my team ^^ I assume sailor sakura would work if u want roshi to stack on his own buffs. But you'd be missing out on his chase etc
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On 2017-06-30 21:41:39Show this Author Only
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  • reijman@live.be On 2017-06-30 20:48:30
  • Yagura is a must due to him being able to steal someone for life steal , stealing someone for their chase , & doing a 15 hit chase himself. Atleast for my team ^^ I assume sailor sakura would work if u want roshi to stack on his own buffs. But you'd be missing out on his chase etc
Ok, thank you:)
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