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[ Bugs ] Oasis Fail - SA Itachi Returns (Easy/Normal)

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On 2017-06-20 08:17:40Show All PostsDescending Order
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Both Easy and Normal modes for this are insanely over powered. Easy should be just that, easy. Anyone over level 70 should be able to beat easy solo, below 70 should be able to beat it with a team. This is currently impossible. The ninjas just do not scale properly and even with a ninja giving shields you will lose ninjas in the first round before first action.
In normal mode, you should be able to beat it with a team for players level 70-80 with a team. Level 80 should be able to beat normal solo. This also is not currently possible. Again, first and last rounds don't scale properly for level and power. New players have no chance of even beating easy.
I think the idea was to make something challenging for the very old players who have tons of add on power (magatamas/ armor/ charms/ runes etc), but all I see in the strategy area is "SA difficult is so easy, just use this simple team and put it on auto". So, you have failed to challenge the old players and completely frustrated the newer players.
There is no special strategy/ninja combo that can win this when the first and last rounds can kill your ninjas before you even get to make a move.
If you want to make difficult a super hard challenge for old players, that is fine, but at least give new players something that they have a chance a beating (easy), and give players who have been player for 2-4 months something that they can beat (normal).

Itachi Returns = BIG FAIL
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On 2017-06-20 09:24:21Show All Posts
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No you are wrong. I have yet to see any "strategy" that makes this SA possible for lower level/newer players. EVERY video I have seen has been of either insanely overpowered players for their levels (i.e. long time players), or players over level 85. If it is so easy, then go show me proof of someone level 65-70 with power around 15k that can beat easy. Or someone level 80 with power 30k that can beat normal. Just because it is possible for you does not mean it is possible for everyone.
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On 2017-06-21 04:13:01Show All Posts
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You all are making the false assumption that I have not looked on youtube. I have in fact watched 10-20 different videos online, and btw most of those "easy team" lineups don't work for new players. I have personally experimented with 40-50 different lineups myself (as a level 80 power ~38k). I completely understand the strategy of most of the teams, even the power up tricks that many don't even know they are using. I beat normal just fine using a team of 3 people. However, the majority of players on my server (which is 2 months old), can't even dream of beating easy.
I challenge any of you who say it is easy. Start a new ninja on a different server and in less than a week you should be high enough in level to access strong approaching. Try just entering easy with your strongest ninja and let me know if any even survive the first round, let alone being able to beat it with a team "at any power".

From all of my testing, and from previous experience with hidan, hanzo, and yagura, I am convinced that there is some statistic (or more likely attack bonus) in the first and fourth rounds that is not scaling properly. The second and third rounds appear to adjust to the player correctly.
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On 2017-06-21 05:56:13Show All Posts
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When did I say "I" couldn't beat SA. I can beat both easy and normal solo, and with luck have beaten difficult in a team. But, I am the strongest player on my server (or one of the 3 of us who trade off #1 constantly). I use a setup similar to yours except that I use the water main's power scaling to be my heavy hitter. I would suspect that any decent player over level 80 could come up with a team to win normal as the scaling difference compared to level 90 is minimal. I am talking about the scaling for players below level 80. Remember SA unlocks at level 43.

All I am saying is Oasis needs to "look under the hood", and make sure that the enemies in the first and fourth round are properly scaling for newer players. If your server has level 85 players on it, then I wouldn't consider your server "new". And any friends on your server who might be lower leveled can have bonuses that might not reflect very high in their power number, but can impact this SA greatly.

It all comes down to a basic question of if you think "Easy" should be easy for all players and if you think it should be possible for the players who just unlocked it at level 43. In MY opinion, if this is a "bug" (and only Oasis can answer that), then it needs to be fixed. If it is not a bug, then Oasis needs to come out and say it is by design. If it is by design, then my argument would be that the attack levels for Easy should be reduced significantly and for normal minimally to make the game enjoyable for the AVERAGE player.
Special ninjas, strategy, and tricks make sense for beating difficult, but normal should be possible with just a good solid team and shouldn't require special ninjas, just a "normal" team. And "Easy" should be EASY, and anyone (no matter the level), should be able to beat it with 3 random ninjas that are fully leveled, cultivated, etc.


Actually, I think the real solution is give hidan SA for levels 43-64, hanzo for 65-74, yagura for 75-84, and itachi returns for 85-90.
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On 2017-06-21 05:57:13Show All Posts
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  • On 2017-06-21 05:55:27
  • dude lol use lighting main immune for 2 rounds hidan suigutsui and guy or someone that can cancel msystery....
If you are a lower level player, then you can't change your main.
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