how exactly is this an easy win? u have 1(maybe 2 depending on fm) cc 1 interupt, their auto heals will negate all of your damage from normal attacks and they just need to start a combo and they will cc 1 on ur ninjas reducing your damage further(you can't reflect chaos since the poison hits first), they dont rely on damage from combos or interupting you to win, they let 6k poison ticks kill you while they heal.

both of danzo's cc will override each other and they are both the highest priority for cleansing so you can't stack them to prevent standards from cleansing them and you have to cc all 3 healers or they will cleanse some1 who then gets a chance to cleanse the team.

your combo is short and they dont hit hard max damage is about (5k sasuke myst + 2k danzo chase + 2k summon + 2k sasuke chase + 2k FM chase + 2k iruka chase) 15k if everything crits so that tsunade in the back still has 5k hp that you wont deal with iruka myst(which you dont have the chakra for anyway) so tsunade is cc'd until the first heal which gets burnt just to cleanse, then the next aoe heal brings her back to 9k, then 3 auto heals for 3k each bring her to full. these aren't numbers i'm pulling out of my ass, these are numbers ive seen in game. your saying its an easy win, and your right, its an easy win for the water main they just need to not auto and have a quarter of a brain to know to use healing mysteries after your combo

just wait for them to get another 30k hp. your still early game, heals are smaller, health pools are smaller. also the fact that your hanzo has more health than your mei shows they played wrong from the start, they should have focused you cleanse and let poison ticks kill you.

To everyone assuming that I'm a lightning main who is pissed that I lost the advantage, you are wrong for one. And secondly, these teams are straight cancer and they are completely ruining the game. Lightning mains didn't do that when they were superior, they were not unbeatable, annoying yes but not unbeatable.

I have been a fire main from the start of the game and giving into this cancer and becoming a part of it is not the solution. If people want to keep running this * team then fine but the heals NEED to be nerfed before it destroys the game.

Shadowblaze is right, if you don't NUKE the team right away they heal all the way back to full and it should not be that way I don't care what kind of weak ass defense people try to offer.

It is ruining the game that many of us have spent the last 10 months grinding our asses off to gain power only to have people with no creativity copy these broken ass teams and slow fights down to a crawl. It is literally a cancer that has spread throughout my whole server and it needs to be fixed.

Tsunade isnt the problem(tsunade is squishy), its the sailor sakura that can't be killed and can 1v4 and win. chases and standards just heal her. face a 3 healer team kill every1 but sailor sakura and cant kill her with 4 ninjas. seems the longer the fight goes the more her passive heals her. sailor sakura needs a nerf

They won't nerf healing just because people don't like how much people can heal and such.

Tonight in Space Time, i am fighting a guy who spent 2 times ++ maybe more then me in this game. Has over a 10k power edge. If i was any class but water, i would get DESTROYED in less then 4 rounds THATS A FACT.
Theres a Good chance im going to lose tonight, but at least i wont lose in the 4th round , like i would as in other class

People come on here and Cry. 1st it was lighting, now its water. When Wind gets it buff, and everyone and there mom goes Wind, it will be Wind

Ever heard of ignite in your combo? The problem with these people is they want their team to beat every teams which is the *est thing. Switch teams use ignite and poison, add ignite on chases and you would kill sailor sakura really fast. People once again please use your brain. Learn to adapt, switch teams. You can't expect your "MOMMY and DADDY credit card Mr Wallet" teams to beat all teams. Those players that are relying on their wallet and moms credit card are the reason this team was invented.
"I will spend money to max my initiative so people won't win." I will spend my whole month salary to make my initiative and runes to the max. I will sell my left liver for INITIATIVE.

This team was created not only to counter the blitz team but to counter those players with higher initiative. GEt it now? Just use poison and ignite and you will be good against this teams.
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There gonna update healing stacks the same day they allow puffin users to pull from kage\edo treasures neverrrrrrrrrrrrrr;P

i made a team with mei, sage jiraiya, hokage tsunade, FM. so for cc i get: poison, ignite, chaos, immobile, blind, sleep. Guess what? THEY CLEANSE IT ALL WITH 1 HEAL. WM standard heal cleanses all debuffs on 1 ninja, WM and SSakura mysteries cleanse all debuffs on their team, so unless i can perfectly counter their mystery usage they will just cleanse that round after they clear 1 person of their hard cc and all my damage is gone. a ninja effected by immobile or sleep gets to use its standard after its cleansed even if its turn passed.

Its not that my wallet wont win, its i dont want to use the same broken ass *. if i go WM and play a cancer team i can win against the people playing that troll team now, but i dont want to play the broken main that takes 10 rounds to win because i have more hp, i want to watch a fight not watch a hospital room.

@Karissaa the fact that you are saying that you would get destroyed as any other main is proof that WM is op.

I want balance, i want people to be able and willing to pick any main and have fun playing them, i get sick of seeing the same 2/3 teams everywhere and its worse when the fights aren't about killing the other person but just surviving, seeing who can survive with more hp isnt fun, i want to see who can kill the opponent faster

Well it's your pride then. Look, the team works but you don't want to copy it because it's not "CREATIVE" and "BORING". It's your fault now not the game's fault for being one of those players "I want my team to beat all teams" mentality. I'll give you a scenario the other day someone ask how can I counter this blitz and ROW team and someone responded. If you can survive 2 rounds you will win. I bet you know what happened next. This post was last edited by 114***@facebook at 2017-5-24 09:20

I'm apologize for assuming things, im sorry :)

on to the topic. . . the fact that ppl often to gloss over is the dreadful heal myst have 3 round cooldown, n they have 2 of this (water n sakura) so you definitely need to make them waste this first before you can actually "do" something to them, since if they didnt waste it, they can . .like Shadoblaze said "making the damage practically gone", in other word. . expect the first 2 round anything you do to them is meaningless (if they have the heal myst)

n for now as far as i know (or experienced) the counter to this is spamming that Cursed hidan team with fire ignite n poison (king of hell) . . . Hashirama team in move 1 n pray to your favourite deity that his immobile catch the right person. . . . oor~~~ just plain pure high power light meta team. . i know its an expensive team. but so are the water heal team

that only if its the water main is still in reasonable power (70k-80k). .if they touch 90k- n god forbid 110k. . i just rather looking for some pronz fanfiction n spam them on space time chat :D. .nyahahha


on the other hand Shadoblaze. . yeah i agree.i missed when we still lvl 1-60 when we just making team with whatever ninja we got, having fun with them, but these days.. .all using either A,B,C team. . not much variety,:( This post was last edited by ItsPrincessRin!!! at 2017-5-24 09:44

im willing to change teams, i made a team specificaly to beat those water teams, i dont need my team to beat all teams(my water counter lost horribly to the LM on my server when my old team has a chance to beat that team). but when i make a team to counter 1 team and i still lose no matter what with that counter when i have equal power then something is wrong.

im fine losing when some1 out plays me, im fine losing when some1 out spends me. im not fine with losing to some1 who can win with less power and while making more mistakes during the fight just because they used something that was broken.

if any main is so powerful that all others are ignored in their favor then its a problem with balance, if people who want to be competitive HAVE to use that one team then there is something wrong that needs to be changed, it happened with fire main and tobi, everyone was going fire main using mirror and had tobi move 1 or they lost, that got nerfed because it was too op and even as a fire main i was fine with it in theory(they took the nerf too far imo, 3 talents nerfed).

if they nerfed fire main then there is no reason they cant nerf water main.

there is this thing called balance which i guess you dont know what it is. but when you have it games are more fun because there is variety instead of watching the same thing all the time, which gets boring and causes people to quit.

3 heal teams are not that strong. They flat out die to lightning and wind meta teams, and does mediocre vs water meta teams. The only relevant teams it is good against are the susanoo sasuke teams and black hidan teams. Those players can easily destroy healspam by simply going back to the f2p mb + iruka + wb asuma + danzo/darui/mifune lineup. Just because a lot of top spenders insist on using their expensive ninjas and failing to realize other options, doesn't make the healspam build OP.

For people who run more "for fun" teams.... sure you lose to healspam, but you also lose to the meta teams.

How come building a team that would make the most of your character broken? I think you are the one who can't understand here. Let's say you use blitz team, would you use Lightning Main, Tobi, Hinata and Suigetsu? I guess not, why? Because if you will play Blitz team you want to boost the crap out of Lightning Main. Same with water, you would want to boost it's healing powers because water's specialty is healing. "Fight a shark in the ocean and you will loose, fight the shark in the land and it will be a different story." And people quit because of OASIS can't sole basic problems, like RNG and Broken Matsuri not because of water main triple healing team.

Have you ever seen IronSoup vs Trump? They both have a difference 5k power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcP2jNoT3EY

i run cancer team fairly often.

i assumed most LM teams have really high initiative, atk and nin.

if you are 10k higher and can't 1 shot either 5th or sailor round 1 with crit there is something wrong with ur team.

A lot of top players know Sailor is weak against tai, she won't regenerate as much round 1.

5th tsunade, azure and either Kabuto or Shizune, they all are pretty squishy. This "cancer" team takes time to achieve full effect, whilst you had your chance at round 1.

Danzo and Mei are one of the best counters of them all and there are many more.

Midnight Blade picked his best team to win. Azure would also pick her best team to survive.

All characters will choose whatever to max their potential.

EDIT:
I've seen 1 player used Cee to counter this team. his round 1 blind stopped their healing and LM slashed them all with crit.
EDIT 2:

Once Jinchurikis come out (hopefully soon), this "cancer team" will be less effective. Bloody Yugito ignites the whole team round 1 and many more to counter heal consecutively



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"if you can't beat them, join them". So, if you can't beat a team, use the same team, with the 10k power difference, it should be no problem for you to beat a heal team with another heal team, it might be a very long battle, but in the end, you will win. or, just use someone that ignites and control to shut down healers.

Just as i said, on par power but even up to 4-5k power difference, mei, mabui, tenten gnw, af meta wins against it 100% of the times if used correctly. The same goes for naruto ninetails chakra (yes here also the 2 star version works fine since it ignites sailor sakura every round and his mystery is more than enough to start a combo that nukes tsunade in round2), bee, kk gaara, bd wins 100% of the times on par power. The iruka, wb asuma, mifune/danzo/darui lineup with mb works too with bloodthirsty demon on par power, overall if you select the 3rd standard attack, because if they run that team then at least on between azure fang and tsunade are mooded ninjutsu to heal more, so one of the two have the lowest hp.

people on my server mood all 3 health since 1 combo will let poison tick for 6k without buffs and heals are capped at a % of max health anyway, so they heal more by giving everyone higher base health and tsunades nin growth *s(615 at lvl 90 red+2) so giving her nin moods is almost worthless. all that bonus health is worth more than the small amount of ninjutsu.

They are not nerfing this. Quit crying people. Just learn to play the game better. Christ.